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#101

So I’m really glad I found this site, because I can vent…

So, I am 21 years old, turning 22 soon…and I’ve been dealing with unwanted hair since I was 14.

The worst part?

This is something I NEVER would have had to deal with if I wasn’t SO STUPID.

I never really had excessive hair growing up, but I THOUGHT I did. I thought I developed my father’s hairy gene. But the truth was, I didn’t. The hair on my body was JUST FINE…but I didn’t know any better, and just started shaving and waxing areas that didn’t need to be shaved or waxed in the first place.

It all started with my thighs, one day, when shaving my legs, I decided to shave my thighs too. The hair came back darker, not coarse, but darker. It took me YEARS to finally accept that it was okay, and that other girls shaved their thighs too.

Then I WAXED my stomach. I honestly have no idea why I waxed it. I had really light, fine, belly hair. Nothing was wrong with it. But then I waxed it…the hairs grew back darker, and MORE hairs grew. And I have a couple THICK COARSE ONES…I have stopped messing with it since then.

Then one day, when looking at my naked self in the mirror after a shower, I saw that inbetween my legs, in the back, there were blonde, light, curly hairs. I examined things closer with a pocket mirror and threw one leg up, and saw it was bottom(butt) hair. Being the dumb kid that I was, I shaved it. And it grew back darker, fine, but darker…

It took me a LONG time to accept the bottom half of my body. But I finally did.

But then recently this year…I saw that my armpit hair was growing UP my arms, and DOWN…hair on the sides of my breasts. And I know the reason why. Because this one day, I decided to shave without looking because I was in a rush, and I didn’t pay attention to where the hairs were, I just winged it.

When I noticed what happened as they grew back, they weren’t even THAT bad. They were alright. But then I MADE THE STUPID DECISION TO PLUCK THE HAIRS THAT GREW UP MY ARM, AND THE ONE GROWING DOWN THE SIDES OF MY BREAST. AND THEY GOT WORSE (black and coarse) AND GREW IN NUMBERS. So I immediately stopped.

And then my nose hair, ugh the one thing that upsets me most of all. Because I made the stupid decision to trim my nose hairs, WHEN THEY NEVER EVEN NEEDED TRIMMING, I guess I accidently had the trimmer touch the bottom of my nostrils, and now I have black hairs growing from there. And they do stick out a little. And its hard to trim the bottom of the nostrils.

I’m just so angry with myself because I LITERALLY had no reason to shave or wax or trim these areas. I wasn’t hairy. But now I am. And I hate it. I wish I could go back in time and change everything.

My mother never taught me about shaving or waxing or anything like that, it was all stuff I learned on my own, why? Because I never asked her for help. I thought I was old enough to know how to do these kinda things. And now I wish I asked her for help.

You know, even though I made all these shaving/waxing/plucking mistakes, I was OKAY as long as they were on my body.

But now I have this stupid nose hair problem and it’s just really giving me bad self esteem.

And I just.

As stupid as it sounds, I wanna die. And I’m completely disappointed in myself for wanting to die over something like this. But that’s how I feel.

#102

Hi SMSammy,

I just wanted to let you know that shaving/trimming has no effect on inducing or making hair coarser, or darker.

You may wish to look at this site here (sister site to HairTell) http://www.hairfacts.com/methods/shaving/

From what you have written, I understand you had tried to get rid of your hair from age 14…which is when you were likely to have been going through puberty. The hairs you noticed post-shaving/trimming would have come through anyway due to your hormones and whatever other physiological changes going on at the time (and you are still young even now).

Additionally, if you have only once waxed your stomach area and not continued to, it is possible that the area was more affected by the natural progression of going through puberty than by the waxing itself - in my opinion anyway.

I hope you find comfort in knowing that your actions probably didn’t cause more hair growth, though I realise you are likely to still feel insecure about the hair itself.

You are most definitely in the right place for support/info :slight_smile:

#103

Finding this website has been encouraging and insightful! So glad I have stumbled upon it.
I have been dealing with female facial hair since I was about 12 years old. What started out as some hairs on my upper lip became more prominent into my early teens. I began to get hair on my chin. I tried waxing and various other hair removal methods. Tweezing is the only one that has truly worked for me. After this I began laser treatments, which only made things worse. After a few laser treatments, the hair began to spread to the sides of my jaw and neck and now has been there for years. I tweeze ~20 minutes a day every day in these areas to get rid of the hair. The source of my hair growth is unknown, no PCOS, my hormones are all normal level etc. I am strongly considering electrolysis in the upcoming months, but since I do not know the cause of my excessive hair growth, I am worried that it will just end up coming back or becoming worse, like the laser caused it to.
I am 23 now and it has just become such a nuisance. My facial hair prevents me from feeling totally self confident and has prevented me from doing things that I have wanted to do in my life. No one has every mentioned anything about it, I feel that I do a good job of tweezing and hiding it with makeup. I am happy to have found this website to know that there are others out there with this same problem and that I can relate!

#104

Yesterday I spent about 5 hours working in blend ( the only modality I will work in on the upper lip) on a transgirl tho comes here about every 3 weeks. For the most part working on her hasnt been difficult. She has had some previous electrolysis (by someone I know here and have been treated by myself) and has also…plucked. On her upper lip.

So very early on in her treatment yesterday . I pull a nice J shaped hair. And another. And another.All told I would say at least half the hairs on her upper lip were growing in this fashion, at least partially if not fully J shaped.

This particular girl, really dislikes blend. She would prefer thermolysis. And 5 hours, is a REALLY long time to spend on such a small area, though I did quite a thorough job of it. I had to tell her though, that I was really happy to be using blend and not thermolysis on this area, because had I used thermolysis my kill rate, would likely have been only about 5%. This is because of the J shape of the hair growth. Growing in that manner I can insert the probe to the bottom of the follicle, and still be no where near the hair root.Thus the hair would regrow if I was using thermolysis.

See here’s what happens. When you pluck, the root of the hair becomes damaged but not destroyed. It grows back at a slight angle and over time this becomes more and more and it gets in that “J” shape. At that point, unless I am performing blend or galvanic ( both of which are slow, for me at least) there isnt any lye in the follicle. The lye gets everywhere in the follicle, as opposed to thermolysis energy which gets put where I aim it, whether or not that is the hair root.

All this is to say, that plucking can and will damage the hair. Not every time, but quite often. And when that happens, you are making the hair not only stronger, but more difficult to remove.

Seana

#105

I am a 20 year old male in college and I have so much dark thick hair on every part of my body and it is starting to come in on my back fairly noticeably. Out of nowhere about 2 or 3 months ago I have began to become seriously depressed by the fact that I’m so hairy. I have seen a few people with similar leg hair to mine, but nobody with both legs and arms as bad as mine. I have talked to my mom about it and it makes her upset and cry because she doesn’t want me feeling this way, and I try to not think about it, but it plagues my mind 24 hours a day. As a college student it is basically impossible for me to afford. I don’t know what to do about it and I’m tired of being depressed and bringing everyone around me down with me. I currently trim my arms leg and chest hair, and shave my upper arms and shoulders every couple of days. If anybody can think of a solution for me I would appreciate it so much. This has affected my life way more than I would like it to and it is slowly bringing me down more and more everyday.

#106

If I can remember back that far, I was in “the same boat” at your age (probably younger).

As Seana points out, it is best to “trim down” the body hair at this point. Best is not to shave right down to the skin and PLEASE no waxing!

If I can get the patient’s permission, I’m going to post some photos of the worst case of shaving I’ve ever seen. This is on a 15-year-old girl’s “bikini” area. Each side has 50 to 100 severe ingrown hairs (at least two will now require surgery).

As I will show (I hope) a deeply ingrown hair sometimes “coils” and goes through its entire growth cycle … starts a new hair … and on and on.

From one of these horrible “lesions” … I have already removed three hairs and can see at least another two coiled-up below the skin. I told the girl and her mom that she will have scars from this mess and her electrolysis journey is going to be a long one.

One suggestion for awarren28 (I know it sounds impossible) … but, confide in a girl. Somehow doing this always stops the depression immediately.

#107

Thanks Michael I actually do have a girlfriend at the moment, and I’ve brought up the issue with her, but I’m afraid that over time as the hair gets worse it might end our relationship. I’ve brought it up to her before and she says she doesn’t care but I don’t think she really understands how bad it will be in the coming years. We go to different colleges so that also poses a problem that I am not with her very often, but she is visiting this weekend and I’m sure I’ll feel much better while she’s here, but as soon as she leaves I will be right back down again. I’m afraid that my depression might ruin our relationship before the hair does, but I try to sound as positive and confident as I can when I talk to her but it’s hard knowing that that isn’t how I truly feel

#108

Could you tell me what you did about it, and if I’m going to have to live with it or is there something I can do about it?

#109

Damn that’s depressing.

I never realized that simply shaving could cause so much problems.

#110

Shaving alone is not really a problem; it’s where the shaving is being done, how it’s done, and the skin type.

Hairs that grow at an oblique angle to the skin are the “baddies.” As with the bikini area, once shaven they have a virtual steletto point and, as the epidermis rapidly grows over the “shaved-too-close” area, the sharp tip easily plunges downward. The way the sword tip is formed, it’s almost a certainty it’s “going down.” Some women have no problems; others create a total disaster zone.

This beautiful young girl has a disaster.

#111

Michael, I just had an electrolysis session to treat the ingrowns.

I think it went well, but now that I’m back home and putting a fresh batch of aloe vera on the treated areas, I’m noticing that all the treating sites are hard bumps.

Is that normal?

#112

That poor girl - I can’t even begin to imagine the discomfort of having that many ingrowns.

#113

Are you keeping the Aloe in the fridge? The cold makes it even more soothing when it goes on.

#114

Welcome Emma.

It is okay for you to introduce your new blog site on hair removal here by making an announcement that it exists and explaining who you are - a hair removal specialist? A consumer ? A person that represents a certain company? You can still introduce yourself here if you want.

Please take the following as feedback for your blog and not as an attack.

I read over the section on the NO! NO!. It was glowing and positive. Many would disagree with the information. Do you know that hair does not conduct energy and there are several law firms representing consumers and stock holders in class action law suits against this company?

Several studies about NO! NO!'s effectiveness were flawed and it has been concluded that NO! NO! is no more effective than shaving.

I felt the NO! NO! section of your blog was just another infomercial
for a product that has a shady consumer history. It is listed as PHMD on the Nasdaq and the chart shows a very bumpy ride with this product. They have been close to bankruptcy and spend a lot on advertising compared the revenue the product actually brings in, according to an article I just read.

Another matter - your review of home electrolysis kits was pretty accurate. Nobody in their right mind would remove hair this way, unless it was for a few hairs on their forearm or legs. Neophyte hair consumers just can’t do this well. Going to a professional electrologist is safer and much faster. I hope people reading your remarks can make the distinction between electrolysis being a slow and tedious proceedure when performed by an untrained person in their bathroom, using a flimsy home kit and a professional, well-trained electrologist using surgical magnification and expensive equipment , designed for removing large quantities of hair, in an ergonomic office setting. It’s NOT ELECTROLYSIS that is responsible for this fact, it is THE UNTRAINED HUMAN BEING thinking that they know how to perform electrolysis in their home that brings about such conclusions.

There is no easy way down for permanent hair removal because of hair growth cycles and the complexity of inserting a metal probe correctly into a tiny hair follicle. It is isn’t quick or instantaneous. No method can boast about easy, permanent hair removal. Those seeking hair removal should be told the realities of this straight up and honestly, something that many of us try to do here on Hairtell. If you want your blog to be the Go-To site for honesty about hair removal, then keep it honest and well-researched, complete with sources.

I notice one common denominator in blogs about electrolysis - the blogger never consults with electrologists. To make sure your comments are accurate or if more information is needed, wouldn’t you get several electrologists to review the information before you release information?

Common words seen, in regard to electrolysis, are ancient, old, antiquated, tedious, scarring, slow, painful, expensive. Talk to professional electrologists about the misery of home products and doing it yourself. We know many clients that have scarred themselves or have just given up because it is not easy for an untrained person to remove a hair properly. Talk to them them about modern electrolysis care and then your blog will be complete.

#115

I have thin and thick hair everywhere and I feel like it’s a curse that I can’t get rid off. I wish I had a friend with the same hair growth as me that I can see. At least we could help each other remove the hair . I’m hoping for a cure and a brighter future .

#116

Hi how do i add photos

#117

can someone tell me i have been depressed for 2 years i had some peach fuzz after i had my daughter which now I think was nothing i removed it once threading which i regret now i think i made it worse it shines in sun like the photo and stresses me

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#119

Love this site! Been reading a lot, very informative and helpful. I have seen photos on here of ladies who have posted their facial hair growth (very brave of them! ) I have /had very bad chin hair, really conscious of it, I’d find meself putting me hand up to me lips to cover me chin when talking to people. I also find meself looking at other ladies chins to see if they had hair there.

#120

Yes indeed, this forum is a goldmine about hair removal and electrolysis