I would not be too concerned about needle size ,as hairs in those areas are usually similarly sized. The skin reaction doesn’t sound worrying either. However, to put your mind at rest, you could wait until your skin has completely settled to your satisfaction ,before having more treatment. Don’t give up. Just take a little time out. Once your skin is perfect again, you will have more confidence to proceed. I am a great beleiver in using ice immediately after treatment to prevent scabbing.
[color:#FF0000]Anybody[/color], including YOU, [color:#FF0000]is a good candidate for electrolysis.[/color] Skin color, hair color, hair structure, area to be treated makes no difference. Electrolysis is for any body or face whether you are from India or Indiana.
THe author of the link you presented, Nannette Richards, is a typical reporter that doesn’t do her homework and most her comments are not to be taken seriously about electrolysis. She gets many things wrong. Ignore her.
Next, electrolysis is not a risky or dangerous procedure. Scarring is very rare unless you do this yourself or if you hook up with a poorly trained electrologist using archaic equipment. Do you think your electrologist is incompetent? If you do, then check out some others and compare the healing.
We cannot begin to judge the levels she is using on your beard, ears,etc. You will know that you are being overtreated if you have clear fluid leaking from an area, if you have large scabs that are inter-connected, if you don’t heal within a week or ten days, if you have to cancel social engagements or work. If you repeatedly have poor healing outcome that takes a long time to get back to normal, then you may notice scarring months later. I say MAY because we can’t predict that either. I had huge scabs on my legs when I was treated thirty years ago. It eventually healed and today, there is not a hint of skin damage. My legs are hair-free and the skin is healthy and normal looking. Scarring is actually not a typical outcome.
People of color may react with some hyperpig in a treated area, but it will fade entirely on its own in several weeks to months. You don’t need that stuff that the ill-informed reporter, Nan Richards “reported” on. That is how your skin reacts to an intrusion on the serene environment below whether it be from bug bites, scrapes and scratches, poison ivy, electrolysis or laser etc. I can’t explain this any better. Any concerns are best discussed with your practitioner because she can see the specifics and make adjustments. You need to be very patient and consistent so she can do her job well to completion.
Dee
Thank you very much guys for your help and support.
Dee,I AM IN Germany right now and there is some association regarding electrolysis.There purpose is to give further training and seminars to electrologists about new things.
There website link is given below http://www.fachverband-elektrologie.de/.This is in german language.
But from this website I found this lady named Patricia Pachaly that is also head of this association.
I am new here so I dont know peoples who have done this procedure here.The only think I thought this lady is head of this association so this means she will be more knowledgeable and experienced in doing the process.
Because there are not so many electrologist around in the area.May be I will be in safe hands on the base of my assumptions.
And James I dont know what kind of machine she is using that is either with paddle or without.I only see that she set the energy from the machine.
Thank you very much guys for your help.
Jimmy
Being president of an electrolysis association means that you have a forceful personality, and some organizational skills. Alas, it does NOT mean that you are one of the best in the business when it comes to technical skills. Do make sure that you sample some others in the area, and not necessarily limit your search to members of that organization.
Hi Guys,
I am sorry but I have posted this post in the wrong topic before.I want to know one thing.For how long we need to stay out of sun after the electrolysis hair removal.And if we dont stay in the sun for a long time we still need to apply sunscreen.In the case of electrolysis is same like laser that you have to strictly avoid the sun for 2 to 4 weeks.
Because I dont stay in the sun but I dont use the sun screen when I walk around during the day.But this is not very sunny here and I try to not walk in the sun shine.
Thanks.
Jimmy
The only real problems with sun exposure and electrolysis is potential spotting from salt injury due to sweating, and temporary uneven pigment change (your tan won’t be even).
You only need to avoid sun for 24 to 72 hours, and keep in mind that the best suntan product is PABA, Para-Amino-Benzoic-Acid. It actually helps the skin screen itself from the sun, and can even turn back Vitiligo. You can mix it with water and apply it directly to the skin, and/or take it orally.
hello! i have a question for james… i found this on one topic here on hair tell
“Now true pitting results in actual divits being missing from the skin, and as such, these don’t go away. This is why you hear electrologists recoil and scream “I don not cause pitting!” when anyone mentions pitting.”
ok, can you please explain to me what do I have? pits or scars?i would finally like to know difference between these two…and how come that you all think that it may go away when I constantly find texts about pits and scars which are permanent…
i know that these mine are getting better bud i really doubt that it will go away…please educate me i need to know! and yes…i almost forgot - doctors usually said that it takes 6 months for scars to get better… how come that these type of injury need much more time…dee said up to 18 months.
i just look at my left eyebrow (which didn’t had those 2-3 mm sized pits…only pigmented dots - now I found that those dots transformed in something that looks like open pores…)
kiss!
Hi I was wondering if anyone can recommend a good place to have electroysis done in sydney, Australia.
Hi Guys,
Its long time again I came back on this forum.How r you guys?This is really a nice forum and people are really good helping each other and giving very good advices especially Dee and James.
As in the previous post I told you about my first treatment after the consultation on my cheeks and ears.
Two days ago I did my second treatment.I told the lady about my healing time and skin problem that I felt after wards.One thing that I don’t mention before.I had acne on my cheeks for years from that I got spots and some hyperpigmentation but not so severe.So this was difficult for me to judge the side effects of electrolysis other than scabs that I got on my cheeks and ears.But I keep eye on some places which was really clear before.
I saw that there are tiny brown spots that look little deep like little small holes .I don’t know what to call them, Are they scars pitting or some thing else? .I told her about them she told me this is normal and normally go away and heal with time as your skin is very sensitive.And she told me that she will use now the gold needle with less size and little less energy.
What you think guys about the problem of my skin and her new strategy.In the consultation I had less pain on my ears and face but in the next 2 treatments I have more pain on ears and also on face.I told her about that but she told me this is ok.She always told me don’t worry you are on the right way.And also told me that just take care of your skin as your skin is very sensitive.
I really need guys your view points what you think about the whole situation.
Thank you very much.
Regards,
Jimmy
For comfort of treatments, the larest probe size that can be inserted with the vision equipment being used is the best thing. The larger contact area allows higher settings to be used with greater comfort. The smaller probe sizes have a bit of a sharper point effect, and require higher currents sometimes.
If you are getting enough vitamina A,C, & E, you should heal up nicely. If nothing else, increase your vitamin C intake. It will charge your collagen production.
I like using the biggest probes possible, too. The follicle has some stretch to it and those that invest in quality magnification can see that follicle stretching when the probe is inserted.
Those spots you were talking about? It is impossible for me to comment about them over the internet, but the vast majority of skin manifestations do resolve with time. Keep the lines of communication open for best results and if she is reasonable and caring all will settle as she comes to understand your skin. It is best to give her a chance to try some different strategies in the beginning. We electrologist’s always begin treating new clients with a bit of anxiety because we are trying to figure out the best working points, probe types, the best levels of energy and timing, etc.
Dee
ok guys!
since I have this problem you all told me something like- “it will resolve but I don’t know in what stadium it will stop in healing proces”…or “there is possibility that you wont even see that i had this problem…”
ok you saw picture that i posted month before- and skin looks fine from front…but i ask for help 3 or 4 times because i’m freaking out with new pits which are forming since 4th month from electrolysis!(nobody had nothing to say or explain it to me) and old pits or scars…however you want to call it, are still here pretty the same! maybe a little different…but they are here! and deep enough to be big problem! i found text where some of you wrote opposite things…like - pits are permanent -and then couple of months here tell me a different story…i just wanted truth…i’m not satisfied with - my skin is back to normal color but it is still very pitted…
ok here is new picture and maybe it is last from me…i wanted to believe all of you that it will heal but it probably wont get much better than it is now…
i don’t want to hurt nobody here i appreciate that you maybe wanted to comfort me…
Will you come back in 6,9, 12, 14, 18 months with a picture? It can take that long to heal - totally, if you are indeed going to heal - totally. Be sure and show the electrologist who did this to you how you are progressing as well. Okay???
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this(above) IS picture from 6 and half months from that electrolysis!
and i don’t want to see that electrologist never ever in my whole life…you tell me that i may heal but i found text that james wrote months before I showed up here which says that pits(where ?something? is missing from the skin never heal-are permanent)…and then I show up here and that same person tell me that mine will heal!!! and i really don’t like lies…
so now I’m in situation that i don’t know in what to believe and who I can trust…
Dear ivmi,
I hope you know that my sympathies are with you. I wish the electrologist who did this to you could be held to account.
I know you want answers and the conflicting reports/advice must be so frustrating but I really don’t think anyone is ‘lying’ just to make you feel optimistic or to brush you off.
To be honest, I think even dermatologists won’t be able to tell you why/how exactly this pitting happens and whether the skin will heal from one person to the next.
Take for example, stretch marks caused by pregnancy. One woman could take all kinda of measures to minimise them but still be left with very evident marks. Another may do nothing but still end up with less. We are all different!
You thought they were getting better before… so we can only assume they will continue to get better from our vantage point. How much or if they will heal completely, no one can tell.
To be honest, I can’t tell one bit what’s going on from the pics as the lighting and focus for each is different.
I’m sure I mentioned before that I have pitting on my cheeks from when I had acne. I have never been able to find a satisfactory answer as to why this happened. When I had a millia treated with electrolysis, I ended up with a pit that looked exactly the same to me. However, after a few weeks this one went. Why? How? I do not know.
Here’s a photo of mine.
Only time will tell if they are permanent or not. I do hope they are not. If a year from now they are no better, there is treatment that you can have. From the temporary “filling” such as Restylane to permanent cosmetic procedures such as “Punch Excision”.
… Time will tell and six WEEKS is not enough time, in your case, to know if this will heal or if it will not heal. Wounds heal from the bottom up one cell at a time. You need to be patient and let your body make it happen… Automatically reaching for a “special, expensive cream” to make it happen faster is probably not necessasary, it may even interfer with the healing powers of your own body.
If the skin still looks bad after 18 months, then other measures would come into play that only a physician could prescribe.
Dee
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No one can guarantee that you will ever get back to the way you were prior to this treatment, but we are always hopeful because we have seen many cases that have healed well. Are you going to be one of them? How can we predict that? I think it was made clear that you will have to wait and see and in the meantime, eat good food, don’t smoke and protect your skin from too much sun exposure.
Your recent post was unclear about length of time. It appeared to be four months since your treatment, but if I had gone back to read all of your posts, I would have figured it out to be 6.5 months. Sorry. I can’t really do that for every poster and that’s why I request that nutshell information about one’s hair removal history be put into one’s signature for easy capturing.
Who can’t feel bad for you, ivmi? We didn’t do this to you, but are doing what we can to reassure you and I know you verbalized that you understand that. If you feel better later on and want to submit another picture that is better than the last, then please do so.
thank you stoppit! you are so kind! 
dee! i know that I need to wait…its just i’m reading everything about pits and scars from electrolysis on the net while i’m waiting…and than when i find something like this -above mentioned situation i feel naive…like stoppit said “…conflicting reports/advice must be so frustrating…”<- yes they are very frustrating! and sometimes i don’t know what to think…i never find text pits/scars may resolve in time or something similar… i always find specific texts like - pits never disappear they are permanent cause they are caused by over treating the area and skin is damaged …only you guys (here on hair tell) told me that there is possibility that it will heal totally…and than i find text where one of you said totally different…so isn’t it normal to be confused and don’t know what is the truth…sometimes I ask myself what am I waiting for…
I will post picture only if i see big improvement…or if my skin is recovered totally…thank you for your kindness…dee and stoppit…i really hope that i will post that picture cause if not, it would mean that those pits never changed and that they are still the same…
Hello Guys,
I just read the posts that ivmi and stoppit posted here.I am really sorry about what happened with ivmi.As the stoppit provided her pic where there is some pitting on her face.This is same case with me.I have also the same problem on my face due to acne.And I think now after the treatment I also have some new this kind of skin problem on some places.So getting this reaction is normal or not.This will heal with time or not.As I previously posted that on some places on my face I have also tiny brown holes that are not so deep.Before they was not so visible but now they are more visible than before.So I don’t now they are scars or pitting.
I dont know what to do really about this.Is this really a problem or normal reaction that will heal?
Thank you very much guys for your suggestions and support.
And I think everybody should keep posting about their treatment and problems they have so other people can get also benefit from them.And also how they have healed from a situation.
Don’t forget others.
Regards,
Jimmy
dee, should I be concerned about appearance of some new pitting…this new pits are little indented dots…nothing like this wide pits you saw in my pictures…i’ve read that permanent scarring may appear 6 months after treatment…and now I’m in 6 month…thank you for answering…
Hello Dee,
Finally today I m going to post my pic.And I have highlighted one place where there is side effect form electrolysis.May be pic is not so clear but you can zoom it and can take idea.I only want to know what this problem to call scar,pitting or some normal side effect and what I should do for that.
Here is link for the pic.
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2581/dsc010191.jpg
Thanks.
Jimmy