I was wondering if waxing an area, and letting it grow in a bit would help before getting electrolysis done? I heard that it helps to wax the area and wait until it starts to grow in because those hairs are in the anagen phase?
Am I mistaken or is this possible?
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
Yes but when your treatment begins you may not remove hair from the root.
That is consistent with what my practitioner said. I would be curious to others opinions on the forum.
If someone wanted to look finished and start where they removed hairs as they came in, one could wax, and start electrolysis one week after waxing. This would allow the practitioner to remove hairs that you don’t see, before you see them. It is NOT advisable to wax while one is having hair removal treatments, after the first clearance, because any hair you pluck in any way is not available for treatment, and will prolong your treatment time and increase the amount of money you need to spend on treatment.
If the practitioner can catch and keep up with the hair, shaving in between sessions is a better idea.
It’s a matter of preference. Some electrologists feel they can’t fully kill the telogen hairs and only want to treat anagen. Some argue that this is an outdated philosophy and that telogen hairs can be killed just fine. Some clients like the thought of only paying to treat anagen hairs (and you’d get to your first full clearance much faster so you could be treating hairs as they returned instead of all at once).
If you want to wax, go ahead. You may want to ask your electrologist which she is more comfortable with as well. Oh, and only wax once, then stop forever. Waxing or plucking during treatment will totally mess up your results!
You’ll never see all the hair gathered in a certain body and facial area.
If the area has never been shaved. ALL HAIRS NEVER WILL.There will be some in shedding phase.
If the area has been shaved before, and you wait some months to get the hairs up to have emerged, NEVER WILL BE ALL THE HAIRS. When the last of these hairs has managed to surface, some of the first hairs have fallen by the shedding phase.
That said, requesting treatment for all the hairs at the same time is not a WHIM.
This interest is largely in the interest of the customer. The advantages are many:
There are PSICHOLOGICAL BENEFITS OF NATURE:
1 .- The client (naturally predisposed to skepticism), check it clear from the first pass, most of his hair are removed. FROM THE ZERO MINUTE, HAS NO doubt the effectiveness of treatment.
2 .- The client (eager to shed their hair), does not have to wait until all your hair appear capricious to be eliminated. FROM THE BEGINNING, IS GETTING RID OF THEM.
3 .- The client (disobedient by nature), will follow all instructions of his electrologist. For all his predictions are coming true. THE ELECTROLOGIST GOD HAS BECOME.
PRACTICAL BENEFITS OF NATURE:
1 .- Use of anesthetics. The added cost of the use of anesthetics is greatly reduced if we try the MAXIMUM of hairs in the workplace.
2 .- The analgesic effect of the Electrolysis will occur earlier if the hairs are close to each other.
BENEFITS FOR SKIN:
1 .- Expect to have the maximum of hairs in the area of treatment involves treating many in telogen. The skin damage is minor. The healing is faster. Less risk of hyperpigmentation. Less waiting to take sun baths.
So I can continue until the Final Judgment. But I fear that trumpets would sound and I would continue writing with invisible ink.
Thanks for all the replies…I should clarify, I just meant wax the area you want once and then go in for electrolysis to pretty much, maintain the area. So it would be easier for the electrologist to get rid of the hairs, once they start coming in again.
Does that make sense? Is this common, do people actually do this?
Yep, it’s common enough. Plenty of people do it, plenty don’t. It’s like asking if people paint their nails: Some people do, some don’t. There’s no right or wrong answer.
I think you’re getting nervous and over-thinking this a bit. 
Unlike my dear Dee, I do not drink coffee … almost never.
I do not get nervous Desperate questions. What makes me a little nervous is that they waste time customers.
Desperate, NO. No wax or shaving BEFORE OF THE ELECTROLYSIS. MAXIMUM HAIRS must be present before starting treatment.
Desperate18: As you can see, depilacionelectr prefers to work on unwaxed areas (she feels very strongly about this point). This is why you should ask your electrologist because each one has a different preference and then you won’t have to keep stressing out over this.
I know I should just ask an electrologist, but what I don’t understand is why some say it’s ok and some say it’s not. I don’t see how it wouldn’t benefit, because the waxed hair would just be so that once it goes in the electrologist can treat those hairs that are coming in, hence the anagen phase, and not waste time on inactive hairs. Therefore wouldn’t it make the killing of the hair easier, because the hairs being treated would be in the anagen phase if they are growing back. I’m not saying to wax every time before and electrolysis session, I’m only saying before the first electrolysis session of a particular area.
I don’t see anything wrong with it, I know with laser waxing before can be beneficial since all the hairs are in the anagen phase and ready to be treated so I don’t see why electrolysis is any different. I think it’s really up to you and how soon you want to start treatment, since I don’t think any benefit from it would be so great that it’s worth doing. If you want to wax and wait to start treatment it’s up to you but otherwise you could just start right away.
Desperate18, the reason depilacionelectr thinks it is a bad idea is because she disagrees with the premise that anagen hairs are killed more easily than non-anagen (called telogen). She (and some others) feel that they are able to kill these telogen hairs just as easily as anagen, so all waxing does is slow things down unnecessarily.
There’s no consensus on who’s right. The studies I know of indicate telogen hairs are more difficult to treat, but some practitioners swear that they have terrific results on telogen hair (depilacionelectr is one of those people).
A documentary recently aired about the transition of a TS. In it, they talk to their electrologist and show her at work. She started off by waxing her beard before starting future electrolysis treatments, presumably with the rationale of having them all in anagen phase during the next visit. (It struck me as odd, even though I have heard of some doing this before, since it was a male beard being waxed and it is such an incredibly dense area. If I had mine waxed, it would have torn off my skin.)
Yes, the rational you use is sound. If you were working with me, I would say don’t do it, as I would expect to get you to first clearance in the first appointment, or a series of appointments spanning a week or 3 (6 weeks is the window of opportunity) If you are working with someone who does not do long appointments, or won’t see you more than one hour a week, your waxing plan of action would at least make you look finished, and give her less hairs to chase when you start work.
Hey James. Its going to take me well over 6 weeks to get first clearance on my shoulder. Doing one hour weekly. Is this working against me?
Thanks for all the info…The reason I’m asking is because I only go once a week for an hour, so I would assume that waxing would be very helpful. Because when it comes back all those hairs are active, making it less and less each time, (Also I would look finished as James points out). What I don’t understand is why some electrologists don’t like ppl to wax, wouldn’t it make it easier for them, since the hairs that are coming back are in the active phase? Sorry if I’m not understanding, but wouldn’t this help with clearance? I don’t see any negative effects it would give.
Anagen hairs are moist and moisture is a necessary ingredient so the currents work better. Again, I like working on anagen hairs and thus, I like this waxing game plan. Several of my arm cases have waxed before starting marathon sessions and I found it very helpful. We get done sooner as well. Marathon sessions with anagen hairs and MicroFlash or PicoFlash thermolysis is a good set up in my opinion.
If the hair remains in its natural state without doing anything, it can be quite unattractive to start from the hand and work up because there will be an obvious hairless area followed by a hairy area when the session ends. The electrologist may choose to thin first so there isn’t an obvious start/stop point. When starting, without doing waxing, there will be all stages of hair close together and a scorch earth approach can leave one with more skin reaction, but all heals well in the end. With waxing, the hairs that return are all spread out and all one needs is an electrologist that will work continuously for 1.5 to 2 hours (per arm) to remove what she/he can see, in microflash or picoflash modes. It’s actually quite simple. No fuss.
Yes, I like anagen hairs that are as deep in the follicle as possible, thus I see advantage in a one time wax job to the body areas. You don’t have to do this if you don’t want to. Electrolysis is so flexible…mmmmmmmmmmmm!..mmmmmmmmmm!..mmmmmmmmm!.. :whistle: There are many paths to success.
Dee
Desperate18, I already ANSWERED this question. You just don’t like my answer? The reason some electrologists DON’T want you to wax is because they DON’T THINK ANAGEN HAIRS ARE EASIER TO TREAT THAN NON ANAGEN HAIRS.
Rightly or wrongly, they feel that older hairs (called telogen) respond just as well to treatment or better in the patients they’ve had.
To put it clearly: They removed a lot of non-anagen hair, and were really surprised to see that they had great kill rates with it. So now they like to remove non-anagen hair. It’s their preference based on experience. You keep assuming that anagen hairs are easier to kill (personally I agree with you and Dee but I’ve killed telogen hairs with no problems too), but some electrologists don’t buy into that claim. They think ALL hair is easy to kill, no matter what phase of growth.
Hi VickieCNY,
Is interesting what you count. If I understand correctly, a woman (born by mistake with the body of a man) decided to remove her beard. The electrologist uses the strategy of waxing before the start of treatment, to obtain all hairs in anagen. Right?
And now I wonder, why would get all the hairs in anagen they were already in anagen before waxing?
James, I know you have much experience in these cases so difficult. You can confirm that the man’s beard contains more than 80% of anagen hairs?
Curious strategy that has been used in this case. It’s like I watered the garden, immediately after a good downpour. Weather and water (money) lost.