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#21

MagicalPrincessKitty: I never said or implied that I didn’t like your answer. I know you explained why some electrologists wouldn’t want to treat a patient who has waxed. HOWEVER, what I am trying to understand is why they would object. I’m not talking about kill ratio now, I’m talking about the emotions and esteem booster the client would achieve from this type of method. If a client want to have electrolysis performed on lets say her stomach. A female would by assumption would feel embarrassed over this situation and want it gone as quickly as possible. Therefore an easy solution to have the “appearance” of being done, would be to wax the area first then once the hairs start coming in, maintain/kill those hairs with electrolysis.

I did not mean to offend or imply that your answer was not satisfactory, what I’m trying to understand is, if electrolysis is proven to work best on anagen hairs, would this not be a suitable treatment option?

I appreciate your response though, it has clarified why they would want to kill telegon hairs as well because of the kill ratio. But, I still think the method of waxing before to have the “done” appearance will help the client greatly.

#22

Desperate18, the hairs do not have signs of identity. Thus you will not be able to differentiate between a regrowth of hair wax and one that regrowth of the Electrolysis.
Many electrologist not working effectively.
How will you know if the treatment is being effective?

The only way to meet this important aspect, before wasting time and money with ineffective Electrolysis, is to check as soon as possible “BALD” in the work zone. And for that, have to be the largest number of hairs in the area.

Magical, thank you very much for the effort to explain. I will seriously consider hiring you as my translator. What is your rate if you accept?

#23

desperate18: I agree that the appearance of being “done” is important for many clients. If your priority was to look finished sooner, I don’t think any electrologist WOULD object to waxing(not most of them anyway), so there’s nothing to worry about. You’re the client, and waxing is common enough that they are used to it, so go ahead. It may slow down your treatment a bit according to SOME people and it may save you money according to SOME people, but that doesn’t matter since your priority is “appearing” to be finished. Therefore, waxing is clearly the better choice for you.

#24

Sorry if I wasn’t clear, my main question was why some electrologist are ok with it, and some are not. As some have said here, waxing won’t help if you are doing electrolysis simultaneously, which I am aware. BUT if you wax just once prior to any electrolysis treatments, and then begin electrolysis, how would that affect the hair? The electrologist is still treating the hairs are they not?
So that was my main concern, looking “finished” but yet still going for treatments. I don’t see how waxing once before starting electrolysis would affect it negatively. I would see how waxing before every treatment would of course, but that is not what I meant.

Hopefully my concern and questions are clearer now.

#25

Yes, I can testify that the majority of hairs are in anagen anyway.

The linch-pin on if a practitioner would care if you wax first is most likely the answer to the question, do you think you can clear it all out in 6 weeks or less? If Yes, then waxing first would just keep you from being able to treat a group of hairs unnecessarily. If No, then the only reason to wish the client would not wax is the small amount of distortion and increased growth that comes from this course of action.

Yours is the reason some people travel to places where they can get marathon sessions, instead of sticking with a more close by practice that will only accommodate one hour a week work. Since you can’t clear the entire area in 6 weeks, you would be doing a three step forward, one step back deal while basically clearing a patch and working out from there. In this case, even if you got a one hundred percent kill rate, you would still need at least 2 years to clear the area permanently. While the more aggressive approach would have a range of 9 to 18 months in the best case.

#26

I agree with Depilelectro, Dee and James. We can clear most people so quickly, time and money permitting, that it is a wasted oppertunity to miss those hair for a whole cycle. That is what Josefa also thinks and Dee would think the same about a facial area. I personally loath facial waxing as I am of Celtic origen, and we are prone to so much facial fluff, that waxing can often multiply and strengthen with a vengence. Arms are another story, and sometimes initial waxing can be a good idea especially if starting treatment during the Summer months. It is probably a good idea to have a consultation with your electrologist, to get her opinion, but if she thinks waxing your face in this instance is a good idea, we will all be concerned for you, especially if like mosr females, you have what we would consider a relatively small problem in terms of the number of hairs.

#27

Christine, excellent statement.

One of the greatest difficulties in my work is the weather of my city. Also called Costa del Sol.
This means coast of the sun. Customers start swimming from spring until late autumn. It is the reason that the working season is limited to 7 months of the year. These 7 months represent the period available for removing as many hairs as possible. So it is so important to start with as much hair. We can not wait for the hairs emerge, because as we say here: if you do not run, you will reach the bull.

Our sun is relentless, as in Australia.
So the more time has elapsed since the first clearances of Electrolysis, much better for the skin.
The arms are an area that can be hidden easily in winter. I do not understand the problem in cold weather shelter (if you’re not nominated for Oscars).
4 hours in each arm of a woman, on average, and the biggest danger will be over. Subsequent clearances no longer pose much risk of hyperpigmentation sun.

#28

Thanks for the replies everyone. I am doing electrolysis for the facial area now, but I want to move on to stomach and hopefully back. But because both are such large areas, I would want to wax prior to starting, so I don’t look so strange with some patches of no hair and others looking “hairy” lol
I was not suggesting to wax for the facial area, I would never do that…but other body parts I thought it would make it a lot easier.