What are the reasons I should shave my bikkini area? And how do I shave there correctly?
[ April 17, 2003, 12:02 AM: Message edited by: Andrea ]
What are the reasons I should shave my bikkini area? And how do I shave there correctly?
[ April 17, 2003, 12:02 AM: Message edited by: Andrea ]
Women are much more attractive without bikini hair. You would probably be more comfortable without it too.
RJC2001
</font><blockquote><font size=â1â face=âVerdana, Helvetica, sans-serifâ>quote:</font><hr /><font size=â2â face=âVerdana, Helvetica, sans-serifâ>Originally posted by cowgirl:
<strong>What are the reasons I should shave my bikkini area? And how do I shave there correctly?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size=â2â face=âVerdana, Helvetica, sans-serifâ>Make sure you trim your pubic hairs first so theyâre very short and easy to shave. Use a really good shaving cream or gel (I use Skintimate which is really great) and a 3 blade razor such as Venus. Always start with a brand new razor each time you shave. And always shave against the direction of hair growth so itâs a close shave. I hope this helps! Good luck!
A few more tips:
Take a shower or bath first-- the hair will be softer.
Use as few strokes across each area as possible.
Donât use a lot of pressure.
Use a product like Tend Skin or Bikini Zone after to reduce irritation and ingrown hairs.
Gently exfoliate the area with every shower between shavings.
Make sure and apply something right after you shave your bikini area or you might get really bad razor burn. I use cortisone cream it works great!
I used to use cortisone cream, too oreosmama.
Lately, Iâve been recommending using 100% aloe gel right after. More people seem to find that soothing, but cortisone can be nice, too.
I also carry a product called Aloe with Nutri Gel this is a great product that works will on this area I use it as an after treatment for clients. Clients love it, it helps sooth the area being treated.
Hi,
If you havenât started shaving yet DONT!!!
Shaving increases hair growth and causes hair to grow through like sand paper! If there are on a few hair there I would advise you pluck them, if there are more have them waxed. That way the hair growth should come back softer and hopefully reduced. If you decide to shave or anything else I would use a tea tree lotion afterward as tea tree is anti-septic-inflammotory and loads more also makes the skin soft and helps to prevent ingrowing hair (a good one is Australian Bodycare tea tree hand and body lotion it is lush!)
Beauty therapist, shaving has been shown in clinical data not to have an effect on hair growth rates. Shaving does make hairs feel thicker because the tips are blunt after being cut instead of tapered.
Tea tree oil is a great option for some, but itâs also an irritant for some consumers. If youâre having problems with tea tree oil or have sensitive skin, you might try aloe and witch hazel, or a product like Tend Skin. Tend Skin also help many consumers who get razor bumps.
Hi Andrea,
Even though shaving has not been medically proven to increase body hair many people believe it does. From what I have seen since becoming a beauty therapist and waxing loads of legs is when someone has been shaving up to the knee for example very often there is a distint line between where they have been shaving and the area untouched. From what I have seen the hair is ofter a lot darker and coarser. This is a discusion we often got into at college and we all had different opinons. I guess on day it will be proven one way or the other.
Beauty therapist, the first three studies on the page below demonstrate the shaving does not affect hair growth.
Hairfacts: shaving medical data
Many women shave from the knees sown onlt precisely because the hair in that area is thiucker to begin with. Many women have much downier hair on ther upper legs and thighs which does not require shaving. Many people confuse cause and effect when making observations about shaving and hair growth.
Andrea, you are right. Shaving does not increase hair growth. When a hair is cut it has a blunt end which makes us feel like it is coarser. In the book Electrolysis, Thermolysis and the Blend: Written by Arthur Ralph Hinkle, P.E.E. A California State Licensed Professional Electrical Engineer and Electrology Instuctor I have taken this out of his book: It states: Shaving has been found to have no effect whatsoever on hair growth. This fact has been demonstrated by a number of experiments on the subject. As they conducted many series of experiments to test the effect of shaving various parts of the body in adults of both sexes. By pairing off accurately symmetrical areas on each side of the test subject they were able to observe the results of shaving on one of the areas in relation to its âtwinâ, which remained unshaven. They made measurements of both areas before and during the time of testing, which involved shaving the test area daily. After several months of this, they could detect no difference in amount, length, diameter, or pigmentation of either the lanugo or the terminal hairs present on either side. Duke University has produced the same neg. results.
I guess I am going to have to admit defeat on this one At my college we were made to believe shaving is naughty, but after reading all of the research on Andreaâs pages I AM WRONG (I hate saying that!) but I still hate the stubbly effects of shaving and would advise waxing every time.
Beauty therapist, shaving is definitely a no-no if you donât want a stubbly feeling, so letâs say weâre both right!
"Women are much more attractive without bikini hair. You would probably be more comfortable without it too.
RJC2001"
Women are much more attractive with or without bikini hair, depending on who is looking.
PLEASE donât contribute to women having low self-esteem based on how much so-called excess hair they have.
As we all know, hair, once removed by non-permanent methods, grows back. This involves stubble, ingrowns, itching, and, dare I say it, a period of extreme unattractiveness (when I am looking, anyway) while waiting for it to grow out enough to remove again.
This is not comfortable! Not physically or psychologically - the latter especially when we are convinced by someone that we are unattractive again until we can get rid of it once more. This is why we donât always feel free to engage in spontaneous activities, like going to the beach or pool, or making loveâŚ
Tomorrow I have a date - and although I am psychologically ready to make love, my legs and bikini line are at an in-between stage and I canât seem to get over all the overt and subtle messages I have received telling me to wait until I can remove the âevidenceâ and be âattractive.â Although I consider myself a relatively strong, independent woman, there is that niggling thought - what if he finds it disgusting and is repelled or disappointed.
Some people like a âbig bush,â some people like it like a little girl. Iâve been with admirers of both. What matters is how the woman likes it -and it is certainly difficult to come to oneâs own natural conclusion about that when so many people tell us the only way to be attractive is to shave or wax or tweeze or dissolve or laser it all off!
Sometimes I really feel like a fraud - calling myself a feminist and then considering a brazilian - when I know in my heart of hearts that wanting a brazilian has more to do with comparing myself to hairless models then it does with wanting to feel smooth sensations for myself.
I am not saying that hairless bikini areas are antifeministâŚbut that I question the purity of our motivesâŚ
Maybe being more âcomfortable withoutâ our hair is about not being taboo - because body hair certainly is. Otherwise, why are we spending time on this site?
I donât mean to be too harsh, but on a website trawled by both men and women whose hair problems have and continue to cause them often profound distress, I just think it is inconsiderate to say âWomen are much more attractive without bikini hairâ without qualifiying that with a big âin my opinionâŚâ
monkeylegs
Monkeylegs
I stand up and applaude you. It takes a great mind to think great thoughts.
Iâll tell you these things do go both ways. I donât do full Brazilian but I do some genital removal. Iâve read some women say that a guy without all of his pubic hair is too boyish for them. But I will say that every woman who has discovered my smoothness has absolutely loved it.
Inexperience, or youth or even ignorance should never influence what an individual thinks or feels about themselves. Iâm not going to brag but I have had enough experience to know that it is not the body part but the woman. Women are also convinced that their breasts are not big enough. Bull crap. A man is always going to be attracted to the woman regarless if she has small or large breasts.
My pointâŚI love a woman with a full brazilian but can just as easily enjoy a woman who only trims and nothing else. It is ultimitly the woman who is attractive and not what she does or doesnât doâŚ
If staying natural makes you feel beautiful then you are beautifulâŚif going Brazilian makes you feel beautiful, then you are beautiful.
As far as you date is to goâŚfollow your heart and do what feels natural for you. Trust me, I know how you feel.
[ April 04, 2003, 01:36 PM: Message edited by: jonny_longer ]
Thank you, jonnyâŚI really appreciate your response. I was just sitting here feeling low, obsessing over the fact that my date starts in 13 hours and my legs are looking like those of a badly plucked bird!
The other night this man was telling me that clinical studies have shown men to be slightly less sensitive to touch than womenâŚso, for example, they might not notice tactile differences between bedsheets of different thread counts, etcâŚ
So, I said, laughing, âdoes this mean women can stop shaving our legs?!â
âNO WAY,â he replied. Thatâs different!â
Sigh. I said nothing. Did I mention that he is my date?
None of this is helped by the fact that my former long-term partner, who knew about my body-image problems (all relating to âexcessâ hair), started going to tons of porn sites featuring âshaved girlsâ etc etcâŚand in moments of cruelty, told me that my hair IS in fact a turn-off.
So I am left to wonder - how bad is it, really? Was he just being cruel, was he just being honest, was he being both (the worst case scenario!)?
In the seventies, big bush ruled. Just look back at the porn. Now, itâs brazilian all the way. Since body image is socially constructed, what the hell chance is there for hairy girls now, to be formally recognised as beautiful? We have to depend on finding men (I only say that because I am straight) who can deal with it, look beyond it, see the other ways we are beautifulâŚ
again, thank you for apparantly being oneâŚ
All women who choose to engage in the cult of beauty will suffer for it in some way. For those blessed with relatively little body hair, shaving the pits and lower legs might be their only, relatively painless, indignity. But for many of the women who post here, who actually DO have âexcessâ body hair, due to genes or hormones or whatever, it is much harder.
Some might say, so why engage? Just stop waxing and shut up. But there WOULD be painful consequencesâŚas fellow posters knowâŚconsequences I am not willing to face.
I saw this documentary in Britain, called âHairy Women.â This woman agreed to stop waxing for 3 months. When she was interviewed with her boyfriend, he joked, but with quite a cruel undertone, that she should stay away from him in bed. He ended up leaving her before the experiment was over. But worst of all (because face it, he was a dick) was the behaviour of her GIRLFRIENDS! They were revolted, and made horrible hurtful comments about being DISGUSTED, etc. by her legs! One said she thought she was going to puke at the sight of them. I thought that these women were projecting their own body/hair-hatred and shame onto her, who, by agreeing to stop waxing and therefore âownâ the fact of female body hair, had become a convenient scapegoat - the holder and publicist of all bad hairy female things. She had blown their cover.
The fact is, it is more practical and probably less painful for hirsute women to pursue hair reduction by whatever means, than to face judgement like that, or years of therapy toward âself acceptance.â
Despite all this,
to quote the immortal words of Christina Aguilera (I CANâT believe I am writing this!) -
âWe are beautiful, no matter what they sayâ
Hear, hear. Maybe tomorrow Iâll be brave enough to risk âexposure.â And if that man isnât kind or smart enough to see and feel beyond some stubble, well, Iâll try very hard to consider him as having âexcessâ inner-ugliness and unrighteousness!
This really should be a post on the emotional issues thread - maybe I will add it to it later, because I am always interested in discussing these issues with others -
monkeylegs
Monkeylegs
On of the most attractive attributes in a woman, for me, is intelligence (sp?) and you are definitly a very smart woman.
Iâll tell you as a guyâŚwait let me tell you about meâŚI have a great carreer that pays very good money so someone thinks I am smartâŚnever had a problem meeting women, so I am at least not a troll, even if I am not a great speller, and I am 40 years old which should at least show some wisdomâŚnow as a guy, if you have any concern over your stubble do not, I repeat, do not sleep with this guy.
Why? Not because of your stubble but if you are thinking about it you cannot be yourself and if you like this guy enough to sleep with him then this is the time for you to be yourself and not distracted.
On a lighter side of life, having him shave you can be an incredible form of foreplay in a bubble bath. You can also remember that he too has something on his mind that he is worried about.
I have said many other places on this board that I personally have no issue with female body hair. I look at it as the natural state of things, and therefore donât find that it takes away from the beauty that is the woman that would be spending time with me. I wonât repeat that again here.
What I will say is that while riding in the limo at my Fatherâs funeral I noticed something that some of you out there would find totally unbelievable. It came to my attention that not a single woman in my family who was riding in the limo had shaved for the occasion. My younger sister was the only one who was even wearing stockings dark enough to make this fact hard to tell. One woman was proudly wearing a little black dress and bare legs with nothing but some lotion on them.
I smiled to myself, and enjoyed the security they all had in their femininity.
Count me with my pal Jonny_Longer, a gal gets farther with me when she can bring great conversation to the table. This counts much more so than smooth legs, and silicone.
While body hair is a matter of personal preference, I think itâs worth noting that some people might prefer to not have contact with people whoâre exceptionally stubblyâwhether itâs the bikini area or legs or whateverâjust because itâs not all that comfortable. Girls similarly donât always want to be smooching with guys who generally shave but are a little tardy in doing it.
Itâs really a matter of personal preference on all sides.