Part II: Laurier

Hair Removal Methods Professional Electrolysis
#881

Hi Josefa and Laurier,

thank you for the recommendations, allso tip with the aloe, we will follow them:)

And for the desinfection of the probes allso use water based antiseptic? Or alcohol in this case (if the needle is clean - we use it just for learning on me, 1 hour work, desinfect and keep it for next time).

Kristina is doing some work on my back, upper back (medium) hairs allways coagulate, but lower back (thin hairs) relase easy, but without the white coagulate - is the hair dead or there is some mistake we do?

By the way - we wouldnt change the Laurier needle for any other - the insertions are super smooth and the reaction is much better:)

#882

Mike, did you know that Josefa can tell the difference between .005 médium and .006 Short Kelly only by looking at them?

#883

I can tell the difference in the overall length by my naked eye. But I must measure to see the tip length difference.

Next week when she recieves her custom Probes we will see if she can see the difference between a .006 short and a .006 short Kelly tip.

I bet she can… :wink:

#884

Just now we receieved the .005 and .006 Short with standard tip. Jossie is trying them out on me now:)

I think she will set a new record today!

#885

This is very good news boy1989 ! We will now have a direct comparison of the standard tip to the “Kelly” tip in the two largest sizes. Very important information.

#886

We are now going to do a test patch of the standard tip and the Kelly tip.

#887

GO JOSEFA … ZAP THE HAIR OUT … BREAK THAT LAND SPEED RECORD!!!

#888

I am writing for Jossie, because she cant right now.

The probes .005 and .006 standard tip are ideal for working in any part of the buttocks. She recommends for her collegues.

#889

I did a chest yesterday with a 4.5 and it worked so well at limiting the area of the treatment energy that it made insertion extra critical to getting a good treatment, and also took care of the problem created by the extra low anchor system in the chest hair follicle, and the relatively large area below the skin’s surface before you get to the anchor, which is NOT our target. I was pleased… even though it did make me do more double and re-insertions than I usually need to make. I am sure I will have the “Zen” of this adjustment in treatment tools soon.

Thanks again Mr. Roy.

#890

Mike, the 0.03 IBP with Kelly tip. Is this a IBP with the minimum bare tip possible.
Therefore could be used for shallow telogen hair and shallow vellus?

#891

The .003 Kelly carries a .022" long exposed tip and yes.

We did find in testing that a .020" tip was too small and the extra .002" of tip length did make a considerable difference at that diameter. If you feel you need less, step to the Kelly .002", it carries a .020" tip.

#892

We now have the Kelly tip on the shelves in sizes .002" - .006" In the short overall length. The .005" and .006" Medium length Kellys are in work now and should be ready early next week.

#893

This is why I keep a good stock of the standard 5 and 6 Long Laurier IBP’s. These huge root sheaths were punched good and proper with this fantastic probe.

#894

Thank you Dee. This pic illustrates well the reason behind the Kelly tips. Please note the debris farther up on the hair shaft. For a deep follicle, that tip is of the proper proportions. We are making a percentage of the lower root sheath our target. When the follicles are more shallow, we still target the same percentage, but the overall depth of the follicle is much less and therefore reduces the vertical size of our target area. This is where the Kelly tip should be chosen for the shallow insertions. This will confine the target area to a smaller vertical demension and keep the upper area of the root sheath, that we do not wish to affect, out of the fray.

The Kelly tip .005" and .006" mediums were sterilized today and are now ready to ship. The .005" and .006" shorts with the standard tips will be in stock early next week.

#895

Hi Laurier,

Im running out of stock and need to buy Laurier needles. Im located in Slovakia (east Europe).

Where can I do it? How will be the shipping cost? Is it possible per package or per piece (for example 8x.005 medium and 2x.006 medium pieces).

We are just in the learning process, so we dont need that much needles now. It would be great to get it just per piece.

Thank you :slight_smile:

#896

Check your PM’s Miro. :wink:

#897

For Dee and other electrologists using the Laurier probes:

In regards to the photo Dee posted with the large root shealth (larger than the uninsulated portion of the probe). I know with a root sheath of that nature that synchro could certainly effectively treat it. With this type hair structure, many of my clients find this modality painful as the setting is quite high. I can only assume, that if you worked in pico or multiplex settings on this hair, pulses or multiple insertions would be needed (I do not use a foot pedal). Currently I use gold on these type hair structures and have good results with single insertions in pico and multiplex (the skin looks fine - I am aware that with a Laurier I would use less energy and the skin would heal faster). I plan to switch to the Laurier probes in the near future. My question is with pico and multiplex are you always using multiple inserions as the root sheaths are larger than the uninsulated portion of the probe?

#898

For the hair structures illustrated above, I was getting the full hair, with one burst of energy, that released with NO TRACTION AT ALL, using PicoFlash thermolysis. This is why I like this probe for this particular case. Occasionally, I needed to re-enter the follicle and give a second burst of energy.

I did try Synchro with these hairs and it works great, too. Just had to lower the energy with this modality quite a bit. I prefer Pico because it was a tad quicker and even more comfortable. If I had used a Ballet gold probe, I would have had a good experience as well. It is about making adjustments with the intensity and timing to customize a plan that works for getting a smooth release, good skin reaction and sensation level that is tolerable for the client.

#899

Deanna, I should point out…that Probe is the perfect proportion for that follicle. The tip reaches the Papilla, it’s blood supply and the lower bulge area. At normal energy levels the IBP is designed to “leak” about 10% of the energy along it’s shaft to loosen the hair. Not enough to treat or irritate that area but just enough to give a good release.

#900

Thanks Dee and Mike for your explanation.

I was thinking that when using an insulated probe that the heating pattern would not work up as high as needed (for hairs with massive sheaths - the kind that almost go up to the skin line). Now I think I get it. Please correct me if I am wrong. The energy is delivered from the point through the uninsulated portion of the probe, but the heating pattern does not stop exactly at the point where the uninsulated meets the insulated. The heating pattern can go somewhat higher. This makes for a good release when using 1 pulse on very coarse hairs.

Mike, I am very much looking forward to working with your probes. A friend gave me some to try and the way they follow a curved hair is like no other. I was thinking I would need to drastically change the way I treat deep hairs (I use ballet gold). Maybe not so much now that I understand them better.