I have also found that when using the “Kelly Tips” I usually find that Synchro becomes the default setting. Although, it is frequently a better tolerated treatment energy than what I might do in Pico with something else, or even the same probe.
It is best used for shallow insertions. When you target anagen and want a taller treatment zone, a standard tip is a better choice. With a larger hair so much energy is delivered sending it through too small a tip will have the reverse effect, and increase sensation for the patient. IMO the choice between standard and Kelly tip becomes more defined in the larger sizes.
Hi,thought I’d chime in here. Mike sent me an email with the explanation on probe language. It helped me understand the probes better.
Quotes from Mike’s email:
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the idea behind the 4.5 probe is to provide a probe that can do the duty of a 4 or 5 probe, but is more rigid than our standard taper to appeal to the one-piece user (it is made from.006" wire as opposed to the standard 4 that is tapered from .005" wire).
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the size .00X" relates to the diameter of the tip and gets larger closer to the stem. Where the wire diameter emerges from the stem it is larger and there is a linear taper between the stem and tip (where measurement is smaller).
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Short, Med, Long refers to the overall length of the probe 3/16", 7/32" and 1/4".
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the exposed tip lengths are proportional to their diameter: .002"&.003"=.035"exposed tip, .004"=.045"exposed tip, .005"&.006"=.055"exposed tip.
It seems that the Kelly tips have their own “exposed tip lengths” made acccordingly to feedback he receives. Thanks Mike, you have put so much work and money into this project!
Mike, there still is a bit of confusion for me in the short vs medium vs long probe. I know you gave the entire length of each of these probes. I also know you wrote that the “exposed tip length” is proportional to the diameter. Does that mean that a .006" long, a .006" med. and a .006" short all have the same exposed tip length?
I hope this info. helps clarify questions others may have of these special probes. I especially like the feel of the insertion - these probes seem to just move along side and stay with the hair, whichever way it chooses to turn.
Yes Deanna, the exposed tip lengths correspond to the respective diameter of the Probe tips. Except in cases that require the 5’s and 6’s where you can insert the entire length of the short length Probe at times, the medium and long overall lengths are more for operator comfort and convienence.
So the overall length of an IBP has nothing to do with the length of the exposed tip. That is relative to tip diameter.
A while ago i showed a picture of a first treatment of lower legs with the Laurier probes.
In the meantime we did a few treatments clearance “rolling upward”. The state before today’s treatment where we could achive full first full clearance of that entire lower leg can be seen here (clik the image to enlarge):
The area with just the 1st clearance is still healing, and its hair density has probably not reached its actual steady state. In contrast, the 2nd clearance of the lowest part of the leg has been done about 3 months ago, so i assume it is more or less in steady state again.
Work has been done with IBPs sized 4 (short shank) and 4.5 where the 4.5 seemed to yield somewhat better results. As most of the hairs are in telogen - especially lots of broken and lighter hairs in the untreated area - the tips of the standard IBPs could have been shorter.
MAGNIFICENT JOB Bea! more and more of us are showing that three times is enough to end it all. Thanks my dear!
I think Beate has a good reason to be proud here.
The pictures don’t really do justice, but basically there was a near total elimination of hair after the 2nd clearance.
First clearance was done as recommended, with maximum amount of hair present. Six months later the second clearance needed roughly half time of the first.
Healing takes some time, mostly because I keep squeezing the tombstones and “gunk” from the follicles. (It’s silly but I have this irrational fear they won’t come out by themselves.) Once the follicle heals it sort of disappears.
Very much looking forward to trying the Kelly tip.
I know, Notadelphin, in fact I’ve always known, I would even say that before her 
. It is easy to recognize the potential in a passionate electrologist, and so is Bea, I can attest to that.
Beate, I think you’ll like the .006 short, the total length is ideal for working in those legs, and the exposed tip length is identical to 4.5 heavy, ie .045 or 1.143mm.
Beate got no .006" shorts Josefa. Those are a rare breed ( for now 
) Dee and James are the only others to have them at the moment. At this point, I believe adding them to our product list is unavoidable.
Maybe an of topic question, but important - is it possible to clean the Laurier needle with alcohol without damaging the insulation?
Yes but that is couterproductive Miro. What accumulates on the Probe is dried tissue. Alcohol only serves to dry it more and make it more difficult to remove. Better to use a water based antiseptic or even sterile water on a cotton ball.
Low intensity, Miro, apply aloe gel on the skin that is treated as often as you can, and use a larger probe. Best repeated several pulses shorter than a single long pulse.
Hello Josefa! Could you please tell the reason of applying aloe gel on the skin as often as one can? To moisture the skin for ease the insertion?
Hello Ekade, moisten skin allows greater conductivity, therefore less intensity, therefore less temperature, therefore more coagulation, and less dissecation.
Your probe never accumulate dead tissue debris if you keep a moderate intensity for a long pulse, or high intensity on several short pulses, or a probe thicker. It is important to set values that allow coagulation. If the probe is too small, or the intensity is too high, or the pulse is too long, the temperature will be too high and you’ll be desiccating rather than coagulating.
Very well said Josefa. I think Dee has demonstrated repeatedly that a small amout of accumulation is common but it will increase greatly with a small amount of overtreatment.
I’d like to let everybody know that the .003"short IBP with the “Kelly tip” is now in stock and available. These carry a .022" exposed tip vs. the .035" standard tip.
Thank you for your reply, Josefa! I did not think that moistening upper skin will make such impact since using an insulated probe the energy concentrating on the very tip of the probe and delivered much deeper than moisturizer can penetrate.
Well, that’s easy to check, try it on a lower leg, or an arm, if possible with virgin hair. Disinfect the skin and begins working for a few minutes. Now spends cotton with aloe vera, or any moisturizing balm, remove the excess so you can tighten the skin well and make a good insertion and start working again. If things do not work better (with an insulated, or without it) I withdraw from circulation. Bermuda? Hawaii? Santa Barbara? he he
One thing is theorize, and quite another to practice. All my team members are implementing my recommendation, there must be. It’s nice when someone says: “You were right, Mom”
We do not know what actually happens. I guess it is more kind of a soothing effect.
The effective moisture of the skin can vary quite strongly and quite rapitly depending on the mood of our client. If clients come in ill-humored, come in cheesed off by something or if they reach their limits during epilation, the moisture reduces, and higher levels of energy are needed to release the hair.
Interesting! Geeza was telling me “stick some Aloe on D, stick some Aloe on” 
I did try it once but maybe I should have persevered. . . Following up when Josefa has worked her magic. . . A very hard act to follow