Hi Philomena,
Can you please tell me how/why bleaching interferes with electrolysis? I bleach regularly and it has not inhibited my results.
Please let me apologize for Philomena, she is dealing with a family emergency and can’t get on the computer as often as she’d like right at the moment. She’s not neglecting us…
Bleaching does not interfere with the process itself, it only makes seeing the hair a bit more difficult. If the operator can see it, they can kill it.
Ditto what Mike Roy said. I hope Philomena is doing well.
Mike, I received the prototypes two days ago and have studied your chart. That was quite a drawing! What a scientist you are! I will give you feedback as soon as I can.
That’s the attention to detail all the sizes get Dee, not just the 4.5 
I’m thinking the 4.5 long tip is redundant and the standard 5’s will do that job but we shall see…
Thank you again for taking the time to work with these.
Thank you K Spiric. What I try to bring to the Electrology is only a small part of everything this profession has given me. When I look back and think of all the people who have improved their quality of life thanks to all of us, I can not help feeling that all professionals and users, we are indebted to it.
The Electrolysis has been undervalued for too long. It has faced many enemies, the bad practices of some professionals (too many in my opinion), unfair advertising campaigns from competitors in other forms of permanent removal, foul play among manufacturers, the secrecy of the associations, the premeditated plan of the media not to speak of the superiority of Electrolysis. Have all contributed, but the worst has been and will be the rivalry between ourselves, electrologists. Every time one of us attacks one of his colleagues, he or she is attacking himself. So I will never understand why Moylans of this world, shoot their own feet. Fortunately, the applause of the customers and the voices of our young generations represent the promise of another tomorrow.
The first clearance in the test arm is almost complete.
The work was done with Platinum Multiplex system, eliminating the second part of this, ie, the Picoflash. Why? because working in telogen hair is like walking the razor’s edge, the risk of overtreating the surface is very high. So, working with a IBP is a good way to reduce as much as possible “els”. In the picture “after” you can see that the skin looks like it has the skin after waxing, the difference is that the red dots last a few days more.
Before
After:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i83egEi3CZc&feature=youtu.be
At the end of the video you can see the values that were used in the arm. You can see how Picoflash pulses have been removed. Thus were using an average of 3 X 90, ie, 270 els. I know this is not what Dectro recommended, but the effectiveness is the same, the pain is much less, and the speed is much higher. Is not that what we all seek?
How I envy you … you just described the perfect meeting that I would like to attend. It is a pity that Sydney is so far away. This is how it’s done, my friends! birds fly better and farther if they go in flocks. 
Hi Josefa,
Thank you for the valuable information you continue to pass along. I have been experimenting with your recommended multiplex settings and my clients are commenting that the treatment feels more comfortable than ever before. It is much faster than typical multiplex and the hairs release with ease. Without question, the electrolysis profession has greatly benefited from your countless posts and videos - many thanks!
Also, a special thanks to Hairtell and the regular posters who additionally contribute much of their valuable time to create and enhance this quality site. You are appreciated more than you know!
Deanna Stovall
I think working on bleached hairs is a personal choice .I prefer not to , on a number of times over the years i have experienced clients developing chemical reactions toward bleaching Depilatory cream ect. On occasion when working on very fine hair breakage has happened I guess im a safe rather than sorry type of person .However this is just my opinion
Thanks Philomena.
Bleaching and depilatory creams are quite different from each other. If a person is using a bleaching cream that they are having no problems with (i.e skin sensitivity), it shouldn’t interfere with electrolysis.
Women who are undergoing electrolysis are already prohibited from most methods of temporary hair removal so bleaching is the only route of minimising the impact of the hair visibility - especially if shaving is not advised as well. I personally wouldn’t want to take this option away as well.
My first electrologist never raised my bleaching as an issue. She actually preferred it as she could see the growing hairs. She was treating the area of my face that had very fine and short hairs - my upper lip. My current electrologist (Josefa/depilacionelectr) prefers the hairs to be untouched (i.e. no shaving) so she can treat them all.
Again, apologies for not reading the thread fully but…
So it’s established that laurier probes cause less short term surface damage and quicker healing. What about long term results- is there a difference in healed skin which was treated by laurier vs healed skin treated by non-insulated probes months or years later? In other words, are non-insulated probes equally good in the long run as far as skin quality is concerned?
The less damage one does, the less healing is required.
My experience with IBP is limited to just over a year, so I can not answer your question. Perhaps the oldest customers of the Laurier with decades of experience in the use of IBP can answer this question.
From what I have seen so far, the results remain permanent as with a non-insulated probe.
This is one of those cases that surprise you favorably.
Toes, an area highly prone to hyperpigmentation on a woman who has previously developed this side effect from Electrolysis and other injuries. Just 6 months after 1 full clearance.
December 2011. Before first clearance:
June 2012. After 1 clearance:
December 2011.
June 2012:
The work was done with a IBP.
Beautiful, Josefa
Time to check the results of this case:
Before
2 months after the first clearance…
Before
2 months later…
I’m afraid to imagine the havoc your needle could wreak on a head full of hair - you’d leave the person bald 
Just have to say … that’s not “havoc,”* that’s textbook perfection! “Our Jossie!” BRAVO!
(*And yes, I do know your were being humorous.)
Yeah, as good as it gets.
Due to a recent surge in retail sales and the discovery that a lot of you out there would prefer to deal direct with the manufacturer for the IBP, we’ve decided to drop our retail price to bring it in line with the distributors and simplify things. I’m also finding quite a few clients that want to order for themselves to ask their practioner to use them and this will also simplify things for them.
Henceforth, our retail price will be $30US/dozen with $12 shipping for orders less than 12 dozen inside the US. Wholesale price will remain the same and we still pay the shipping. Unfortunately we have no control over import tariffs charged by other countries that are not as welcoming as the US to imports. The IBP is extremely popular in India and they charge a 100% import tariff for them there ! I suggest overseas customers please check your country’s laws and determine your tariffs and fees ahead of time to not be surprised by them.
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Hello…can you please tell me how many orders do you get from India? and from where exactly in India? I’m from Mumbai. I’ve been trying to find a good electrologist in India since long with no luck. It would be great if you could share a few contacts (with their permission).