Josefa, your work is simply stunning. 
Thanks to you Josefa, fewer people think that my before and after pictures are dishonest. I am glad to see the wave is washing over the world (even if it is happening slowly).
Hi Josefa,
Henry David Thoreau wrote,
“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.”
I say, you are many steps ahead.
So who says that electrolysis is not for large areas? Great professional work, Josefa.
The Electrologist
The beard of this man is very challenging work. Jossie, you are very dedicated and skilled to sustain the energy required and to put in the time needed for this kind of work. Only other electrologists would know what kind of effort this requires. Do you care to share how much time it took to get a full clearance for this client? Did he need anesthetic help for some areas? Well done, my friend. Also, because others may be curious, what are the time intervals between the pictures shown.
Laurier Probes
I have been using the Laurier probe and the prototypes that Mike Roy has sent for my large area cases. He is so receptive to our needs and very gentlemanly about giving us the best product possible. We are still trying to discover if his Dad’s work can ever be topped! When I told him I preferred the sturdiness of another brand probe when working at focused, short timing automatic speed for large areas like a man’s back, he offered to make me some custom probes in January. How is that for service?! I am loving the Laurier probe as well, Jossie. I used the 4-5 long prototypes on my five hour back client yesterday. It was fantastic and effortless. The hairs were too deep for the medium, so thanks Mike for sending a bundle of longs. They held up well and as usual, the client was comfortably reading his iPad as I worked away. In the other probe holder, (the Apilus Platinum has two) I put in a Ballet gold to compare. It worked well, too! I have other types of probes that I will use to compare as well. In this case, I liked having some sturdiness, mixed with a little flexibility, that the Laurier prototype gave. We have come a long way since Dr. Michel of St. Louis, Missouri (The Father of Electrology) size 8 sewing needle, attached to a six cell Groves battery!
The Epilator
Another important part to the equation in achieving this degree of success on a man’s tough beard is the Apilus Platinum epilator we use, Jossie. Undoubtedly, the best thermolysis technology on this planet for quickly removing such crazy, strong hair like the man presents with in your pictures. Great and complete destruction in the underground world of the hair, while leaving the the top layers of skin in great shape.
Skill > quality probes > superb high tech epilator > brings happiness to all parties.
Not to be forgotten, an ergonomic chair, proper light source, an ergonomic visual aid and a most delightful and loving electrologist like, Josefa, complete the beautiful story.
To your other points about our colleagues that give out the most grit against the products we rave about, they are the ones that haven’t even tried the products! They rely on the old guard telling them what is “true” without experiencing the new technology for themselves. I could share some off line stories with you that would make the spiciest salsa taste like blaaah, Jossie.
Thank you Mike.
I was able to work on 2 male mustaches yesterday entirely in pico flash using your 4.5 mediums. This was a first for me since I would ordinarily work in other thermolysis techniques that would slow me down a little.
Thank you Josefa, Dee, and Arlene. It would start to appear that the 4.5 design shows promise. Josefa should recieve hers shortly.
My primary target was deep men’s back hair but you folks are taking this further.
We may just be on to something here… 
Mike,
I actually used this probe (a 4-5 medium) on a 17 hr. bikini line, labia and peri-anal clearing last week. Her goal is for an almost total Brazilian. I took some before and after pictures, but need her permission to post. It went very well, indeed. The probes hold up, even with bending the probe as needed to get a proper insertion. This work is NOT easy. I think my new name should be Mrs. Gumby. I give big kudos to my client who is a salsa dance - she was able to contort, position herself easily and willingly, for all areas, which made my job easier. I could attack more hairs per minute. Alas, we needed just a little more time to get to a few more hairs, but a tornado warning popped up and we had to shut things down. Colleagues, it is a good idea to unplug your epilator during a really harsh thunderstorm, even if you use a good surge protector. Just turning it off may not be good enough.
Thanks Mike for that probe. I will give you more feedback as I continue to use it on my back client, especially. You are the best. Hello to your Mom and thank her for all her work, as well!
James, if we all put a drop of water, the wave can become a tsunami. Recently someone suggested that I could be using the program Photoshop on my blog. The man in these photos is the same man in the video of the PERT technique, and the same man of the pyramid technique. I would love to know how to use photoshop as well as I can handle a probe of electrolysis. 
Thanks Dee. The time taken to make the first clearance of the entire face, neck, and some hairs on the ears: 28 hours (an average of 3 hours per day). I used 2 sizes of probe, a 006 long, and a heavy 5.5. One of the probes withstood more than half of time: 12 hours. When I pulled into the container was still perfect. I remember when I threw it said “good service, my friend.” I used the synchro system. I do not remember the exact parameters, but I remember that time was 2.2 s. Tomorrow I can see if anyone is interested. The time between the photos of before and after 2 weeks. This man endured the treatment so amazing, considering that we were working on very inflamed areas, anesthesia was still needed. The chin and upper lip and lower sweated like an open tap. But he did an amazing job with the aftercare. I confess I’ve been very concerned with this case, but fortunately, everything went well.
That’s the idea, Arlene, extend the hand to go all at the same pace.
Thanks, Josefa for answing my questions. It would be so helpful if you could share your other parameters. I would like to try something similar for hair structures like this man’s. This must be exhausting for you answering everybody’s questions! It is most appreciated!
Okay Dee, I will start using the 4.5 laurier medium on a new preop client in prep. for her reassignment surgery. I know you just did a full clearance in the area. My preference has been the 2 piece except when I work in that area. I think that the strength of the 2 piece 4.5 will change that.
Did you have to resort to multiplex for the most part? I want to get in and out as quickly as possible as treating this region is physically uncomfortable for my neck and back. This will be my first clearance and the client does not wax or shave.
Sometimes I feel the need to be aggressive - just to get those hairs - in that area - to never return. It is the toughest area for me in terms of speedy hair removal.
Since so few of us treat this area - I need to know as much as I can as the number of tg clients is increasing while the number of electrologists who treat this area is not.
James, what are you doing these days as you are experimenting with the new Laurier’s?
All suggestions from my colleagues would be appreciated.
Greetings Arlene.
I used PicoFlash, in the Bikini Program, level 2 and my el’s varied, but mostly, I was in the low 300’s, having to double insert or even triple insert for some hairs, brought the el’s up to the 600 + range. I like one pulse, but the hair structures were all mixed up, so that was the best strategy for me. The client did not use LMX for most of the area, but tried some on the pilonidal area, as that was the most sensitive.
In the beginning, I demonstrate all three thermolysis modes for the client. She liked Pico best and I did, too, because like you, I just want to get the hair off ASAP because it is not easy for either of us! I charge $73 per hour. After taxes, I actually get to keep half of that. For this difficult work, that can destroy a body, I may need to re-think that. Konk me on the head for digressing next time we meet.
Positioning has been better on this case because I have such a compliant, helpful client. I have a rollable stool at the side of the table that she rests her foot on. She comes very close to me and tilts properly. She holds her legs up. She stretches the skin when asked. She is all involved. Pillows under the rumpus for the peri-anal area helps to lift so I can have some wrist room. I use the extra short probe holder from Dectro for some tight areas. I bend the probe, as needed. Edited: Another thing, I have Carole King radio on, through Pandora, playing in the background. The leg holder that Dectro has may be on my kick the bucket list soon.
I would much rather use Synchro on these hairs. As you know, they have monster root sheaths and need the machine gun modality, but I went with what she can tolerate best. I am so glad I have the Laurier IBP with that mixed of flexibility and sturdiness.
Mike, I saw this client again last night, and the ease of using this 4-5 prototype still pleases me. The healing part is fabulous. She comes to me impeccably clean and continues with good aftercare at home. I know we were talking about using these prototypes for the back area, but was curious to try them on this client. I did use a heavy five as well, but the insertions were smoother with the 4-5 proto.
Yes, this is not easy for us even if we have uninhibited clients that participate with positioning and stretching. I don’t have weekly cases like this, thankfully so.
Hi Dee, just curious, did this client have LASER on her bikini before electrolysis?
No. I told her to get a laser consult, but she wanted to go straight with electrolysis. As I got into this, I was seeing not so many dark root sheaths and lots of telogen hairs, so it is best that she started electrolysis.
Thank you for your reply!
Also, I am sorry to hear about such high taxes! Paying half of taxes is too much!
Thanks for the sympathy!
Thanks Dee. When I was a sole proprietor, 55 cents of every dollar coming in was going to taxes. My accountant suggested that I move to an S corp and he says that has been helpful.
I have the posiflex elbow rest and am very happy with that but struggle with the leg rest as it is a little awkward for the client every time I move my chair. I think I might have to buy another posiflex holder and hook that on to a separate chair.
When the preop clients come in, I open up my travel table which is a massage table. It is very wide and long and opens flat. I push it up against the wall so that the client has more back support. I have an assortment of pillows and towels too.
When I do too much of this work, my back and neck suffer. Kudos to James who I think mentioned that he does a lot of it. I always mention looking into laser if I think the client is a good candidate.
I have also been using the 4.5 prototypes on areas other than the back and have not encountered any problems on the face; its all been very good.
I will keep in touch about the preop work using this probe. I am hoping other electrologists will help out with this population and treat all areas. I am really perplexed as to why there are only a handful of electrologists who visit here and help each other troubleshoot. I still check the AEA website and since you left, there is no dialog. I just want to add that the Ohio electrologists are quite proactive and skilled and talented and it was a pleasure to meet so many of you - amazing - Ohio was strongly represented in Canada.
I am sorry for too many questions, just wanted to ask, Dee, do you like one pulse even using Picoflash for anagen bikini hairs? So, just one pulse at the papilla area? Even with Picoflash?
Thank you!
Yes. Usually the hair slides out nicely. If it resists, I zap it again. Levels have to set correctly for this to happen. Probe choice is important as well.