thick upper lip hair - first partial treatment - at 230/220 EL (picoflash/synchro) with a laurier probe size 6 and the platinum. From my experience with the Junior and the same probe i expected something over 400-500 EL. Wow.
Beate
I am fascinated by these probes. Is sensation different too, or mainly the reduced skin reaction. They would be great for Summer time here, no missing out on beach opportunities while having body treatments.
I meant to ask about stockists, where can I get some from?
I did not use them on my own skin up to now, but all the clients who can compare tell me about lesser sensation. Since the energy needed to release the hair is usually lower than with conventionally shaped probes less sensation is to be expected.
Beate
Thank you both. I look forward to trying some after my trip and will let everyone know what I think. Beate, do they feel strange to use at first?
My electrologist required no more than ten to fifteen minutes to adjust to inserting the IBP.
As i had my initial trainung with sterex two piece probes, it was familiar to me on the first moment. Despite of that i always need a few minutes to find my rhythm - independent on the probe.
As i did my initial training with sterex two piece probes, it was familiar to me on the first moment. Despite of that i always need a few minutes to find my rhythm - independent on the probe.
That does mean that those people who feel uncomfortable with 2 piece probes in general might be pretty unfamiliar with the lauriers as well.
Were actually 20 minutes, it was my third test with insulated needle and the first in the body. It took me longer than normal.
Just what I’ve thought. In fact I have two clients who do not want to interrupt their treatment in the legs during the summer. Yes Christine, it is worth making this small investment.
We seldom try to advise on the Probe’s use. Every practioner has his or her own methods that they prefer. But of late, I’ve gotten some of the same questions from the web page and I thought it might help those trying the Probe for the first time to clear something up.
Logic would dictate, when trying the IBP for the first time, to start out at about the same power level used for previous insulated needles. The IBP releases the same power in a much smaller area at the tip. High power levels can overpower the insulation. I would suggest that one start low and work up to the desired result. As it says on the web page, you will find a slight buildup on the tip that must be removed periodicaly, but any significant buildup on the insulated shaft indicates a bit too much power. Another indication is a slight whitening of the surrounding tissue immediatly after the pulse is applied.
The reduced power levels do take some getting used to, but our longtime users can sense the increase in the treatment level when they step down a size and have to adjust accordingly. This is due to the tip length getting gradually shorter with the decrease in diameter.
Be well all -Mike
Yes Mike, during my short time using the probe, I learned that it is better to maintain a moderate intensity to keep the needle always clean. It is best to double-tap the pedal with a low intensity than once with high intensity. The needle is always kept perfect and we do not waste time cleaning tissue debris that adhere to it.
Here, the test that I did in the Spaniard’s arm with the needle Laurier, tests made in April 2011. The results are spectacular and hyperpigmentation near zero.
2 months and 18 days later. Results of the first clearance. Maybe manage to reduce clearances to only two? time will tell…
Im just curious - is 2 months and 18 days sufficient time to judge the long time results? And how can I distinguish true and false regrowth???
Watch the area carefully, Miro. In the circle corresponding to the treated area a few hairs appeared before 3 weeks. If you look closely you will see that these hairs did not come from one of the red spots. The hairs came from untreated follicles, ie, are hairs from false regrowth appeared. Now look again, there is a hair surrounded by a blue circle is an ingrown hair. This hair can be from true regrowth or maybe a hair right next (group two, often in the girl) was treated one follicle and the second was affected by the needle. It may be that the damage is very close and this prevented the hair out correctly to the surface of the skin.
We can wait longer to check these results, we can wait a year or two, or three, and maybe we do, but the results are the same. I took more than 30 years observing this phenomenon. Destroyed follicles never will produce a new hair again, NEVER.
Mike Roy, the probes that you made are amazing. This woman is back for the second session. Nobody would say that there has been something. Absolutely spectacular!!!
I have been using the Laurier probes too and find them very nice indeed. I really like the black color and that I can see exactly where I want to place the current … this is just great. I have been using thermolysis only for the most part, but also some blend too. The insulation did hold up for the 90-minute treatment.
I’m not sure if the crusting was any different because the patient did not come in at the right time. They said they didn’t notice a difference, but these people are not very observant. There was, however, the expected angiogenesis on one particular very white patient (who always shows this).
Funnily enough, I think the bare shaft (working-end) of the probe is, in fact, treating more than just the papilla (I like that). Furthermore, this is really a good needle for telogen hairs, because the bare end is almost a perfect fit for a hair in that phase of growth.
I suppose we all find our own ways of working with various needles. The IB probe will be part of my normal instruments of choice. (My main preference, however, is still a properly designed tapered needle … which acts identically like the insulated needle. I still have some tiny and elegant Japanese-made tapered/insulated probes that are amazing for upper lip hairs). The company is considering re-introducing them to the American market.
Yes, Jossie, I know what you are talking about with that MultiPlex level. I spent 90 minutes working on a womans chest today using MultiPlex and the release of hair was great and comfortable. I know it was comfortable because she was talking away and laughing most of the time.
I have strayed from the Laurier probes a bit and will get back to using them more. I liked then a heck of a lot. It is a great product, but I don’t like the ultrasound and sterilization part and packaging part. Most days I am so busy and it is so easy to use a disposable and be done with it! What process do all of you use. I use the plastic tubing and heat sealer and then put each package in the dry heat sterilizer. I label the package before it goes into the sterilizer.
Any suggestions for making this easier? Hmm, maybe this should be discussed on the Electrolgist to Electrologist thread?
Dee, the procedure is similar to that we use to sterilize the tweezers. Once the session ends, clean the needle, introduced into a sterile container that we give to the customer. When the client returns for the next session, we return to clean, sterilize and ready to begin.
This is the appearance of the area now, after a single clearance. 2 months and 21 days later.
