need advice on electrologist experience

Have you had a full clearance yet?

In two separate appointments, yes i have.

Dee what do you make of this? Ive been to 4 different electrologists and they’ve all been having troubles with my hair, or I’m not seeing the technique that I’m hearing about on the forums. I don’t mean to be so finicky and i don’t expects results overnight, but i feel as though if I’m paying for a service i should be able to be comfortable with what they are doing to my face, and I’m not. Moreover, this is eating out a hole in my pocket (70CAD per a treatment with my current lady) so i want to make sure i am getting my moneys worth and i can continue to afford them.

YOU ARE NOT ALONE!! I have been to MANY MANY Electrolysists and also never had any of them know of or follow any of wht i read was being done on this forum. I have spent tons of money with little results. It happens OFTEN> dont let the pros on this forum lead you to believe that they are all so qualitfied. I learned the hard way this isnt the case in the real world.

and womens faces seem to be the most diffiuclt place to get results , so team that with less than a professional practiioners out there and it definately is an expensive gamble!

I dont have any problems getting results when I want them Danika. I’m not even one of the pros and I can tell you this can be done safely and effectively.

Seana

Hey Lilly

I, too, am on the hunt for a good electrologist. So far, I’ve had one lady who was way overcharging for the outdated equipment she was using plus her pace at removing the hair. Plus she kept interrupting the sessions to answer the door or to let me respond to her chit-chat. She was nice enough, but I’m not paying $2/minute for companionship plus sub-par practice.

The second lady must’ve been accidentally plucking 50% of the hair under my lower lip and chin. I say this because those areas both have dense, light hairs and I think she wasn’t able to get the hair she zapped w/the probe. I only noticed it in those areas. Other areas I couldn’t feel the hair slide out.

When I brought it to her attention, she said that the ones I felt were the ones that had juicy hair-bulbs that were now dried out and the skin surrounding the follicle wasn’t letting the hair bulb go very easily. So those were the ones that probably wouldn’t be back. Uh… I saw no mention of that on the electrology association’s website, nor here.

One thing I want to mention: If your endocrine bloodwork comes back “normal” it may just be that you are more sensitive to insulin than the average person. That’s what my endocrinologist told me. I should be on a no-carb diet, but that is my life-long struggle. At least there is electrolysis in the meantime.

Good luck on your journey! Hopefully we’ll both be posting here in a year’s time with nearly-hairless facial skin.

I’ve been to 3 different electrologists within Toronto over the past 4 years with not so good results. When I bring up some of the issues I’ve seen discussed on the forums here (settings, the feeling of plucking vs sliding out) I’m always told I don’t know what I’m talking about. Makes me feel like I’m wasting my $$$. I would not recommended any of the 3 I’ve been to. I’m still trying to find a really good electrologists in the city. (Any recommendations, please send my way).

I find it a bit odd that in such a large city. there are not very many electrologists being recommended.

But don’t give up. I am determined to continue my hair-free journey.

Hi Lilly. If you were my daughter, living far away, this is the advice I would give:
Contact the Canadian Electrology School, Dectro Institute. Find a graduate of that school. They have a great educational program. Then, make sure that the graduate participates in continuing hands on education - which Dectro provides. I would want someone who is continuing to work on skill building. Send an email to Dectro and ask for referrals. You might find a gem, you might not. I hope you will find someone conveniently located, if not, take mini vacations if you can.

http://www.dectro.com/en/locate-a-salon/apilus-centers/canada

All the best,

Arlene ,

Dectro does have excellent training from all reports. The link you give though to “Apilus Centers” though is actually a list of electrolysis establishments, presumably ones that use apilus equipment. To my knowledge, Dectro only does training out of their montreal offices, and that is conducted entirely in french! For this reason you are more likely to find Quebec electrologists trained by them, and not other places.

Bertha, I feel your pain regarding finding qualified folks in the greater Toronto area. I often get quizzed for referrals there, and I just dont have any. I think it has a lot to do with the cost of living in Toronto, good electrologists cant afford to pay their rent on what they make there.

Actually, I take it back. I thought afterwards and there is ONE electrologist I can recommend in the GTA. That is Rea from Follikill.com. I have NOT personally been treated by her, I came across a blog of hers while searching for learning resources some time ago, and recently got a referral to go see her from another GREAT electrologist here in ottawa. So, while I cant say I can personally vouch for her work, I have a few people I trust who can and the information she presents on electrology in her blogs leads me to believe she is amoung the better ones.

Seana

Its hard sometimes to give referrals when you haven’t been treated by said person although I see you have friends that have. I once read a post on her where an American electrolysis not naming names it was an extremely old post was suggesting an English electrolysis from a different website or forum and suggesting from how they spoke on there etc… that they knew what they were talking about and were basically biging them up for referral this was in my area so I did some research to find that the person was quite the opposite from google and other forums mainly TG who basically called her a butcher male female and TG and literally tones of people on lots of different sites quoting how she’d burned some scared them for life and actually been very rude abuse over the phone pestering them for business and other rather under hand things when questioned about her ability calling and hanging up on them in the middle of the night. This is obviously by no means that norm at all far from it but it just goes to show what people say online and how they act at first is not always to be trusted many said she did seem OK on first couple of treatments and then all went wrong. I think she was TG herself. I am hoping I have got a good one myself although have often though of trying someone else out just to see but am 8 months in now having only used the 1.

For the record, Dectro does training in both French and English. They have locations in Quebec City, Montreal, Massachusetts, California, and a few other places, that I can’t recall.

James,

Maybe they do in other countries? However the academiedectro site clearly states:
Schedule and Rates
(May vary depending on the time of year)
In Quebec :
Tuesday to Friday from 8:30 am to 4:30 pm
(Only the correspondence course is available in English)
In Montreal :
Monday to Thursday from 8:00 am to 4:00 pm (Course offered during the fall semester only)
(Only the correspondence course is available in English)

Seana

Re: Canadian Electrologists

Hi Seana. Dectro trains in English too. I reviewed the entire educational training program that Dectro sent to a school here - it was sent in English. Also, many of the electrologists in the US, myself included, have been to the Apilus-Dectro Canadian locations for continuing education and it is provided in English.

For anyone who is interested in training or finding someone trained through them, I still suggest contacting Dectro. Perhaps a phone call to them will provide more specific information and clear up any inaccurate or unclear information presented on the website.

Académie Dectro Québec
1000 boulevard du Parc-Technologique
Québec (Québec) G1P 4S3
418.650.0303 • 1 800.463.5566
info@academiedectro.com

Académie Dectro Montréal
3400 boulevard Poirier
Montréal (Québec) H4R 2J5
514.856.0881 • 1 800.279.0881
montreal@academiedectro.com

Collège Medes
1040 rue Champlain Suite 300
Dieppe, Nouveau-Brunswick, E1A 8L8
(506) 384-3223 • college@medes.ca

La cité collégiale
801, Promenade de l’Aviation
Ottawa, Ontario
K1K 4R3
(613) 742-2493
info@lacitec.on.ca

All the best,

I really appreciate everyones responses! Thank you so much for the support!

Ive since stopped going to my electrologist as i am actively looking for a new one (who is also possibly cheaper, i love her to death but i have to put paying for university first). Arlene, I would definitely give dectro a shot! it wouldnt hurt.

As for referrals, everyone has had good and bad experiences with some of the BEST. The second electrologist i went to was on bay street (for those who do not know Toronto, Bay street is probably one of the priciest places to shop/rent downtown.) A lot of people had great success with her, but when i went to her establishment it was quite dirty, and she had antiquated equipment that she was charging 75$ an hour for. Not to mention she was the only one out of the 4 ive been to that burned me and left white spots all over my neck.

i agree Bertha! I brought up the word clearance to one of the electrologists and they were like what ?!? ive never heard of that technique before. I was like -_-. I have some assessments lined up this week ill definitely let the forum know!

I never thought of that DADT, my bloodwork did come back neg the first time (i went to go get a second opinion.) Thanks for bringing this to light and i hope we will speak again =]

Ah, thanks! I looked up the follikill website… and was not very impressed :frowning: . Also, her prices! Mein Gott, 15 mins is $40?! One hour with my physiotherapist (who is a very good one and teaches at McMaster University) is only $52!

I checked the “Follikill” site. Actually, it was awesome to see someone in “Dectro-land” using the same “Hinkel machine / manual blend” that I use! Now, that’s some real “cahoonies?”

But that’s not why I’m posting.

See, her $40 for 15-minutes is sort of the industry standard. If you notice, her 1-hour fee is $85: also standard. Actually, a bit low.

Recently, in Santa Barbara, all the electrologists raised their 15-minute appointment to $45. My fee is simple: I won’t do it! … YES, I will do 15-minute appointments for a client who had a “significant problem.” But not the person who is tweezing and fiddling daily, and then presents me with six hairs that I can’t see because they are shaved too close.

Yeah, it’s like that. Actually, there are no “15-minutes appointments!” The client with “nearly no hair” is difficult to schedule, you can’t get them on the phone (or email), they change their appointment several times and then, typically, don’t show up at all (if it’s not important they forget). Oh, but they will call you and want to come in “immediately” … yes, even on Sunday … like “right now, or I’m going to tweeze!”

Once in the office, even with only a few “stragglers,” you hear all the complaints and you usually spend a good half-hour explaining hair growth (again) for the “umpteenth” time. Officially, I charge $20 for a 15-minute appointment … but that’s for clients who are “at the end of treatment” and only have scattered hairs left (actually, I don’t charge at all at that point.)

I would rather work 1-hour for FREE than take-on a “difficult 15-minute client” for $40. And, I do! Lots of times.

I recently finished a truly desperate woman (beard) and gave her 42-hours of work for free (she had no money)! But then, that’s just the way this “grumpy old dude” works! She’s wonderful, by the way.

I think the common $40 fee, for 15-minutes, reflects the same difficulty I’ve encountered all these years. Grumble grumble … he he he!

I checked the “Follikill” site. Actually, it was awesome to see someone in “Dectro-land” using the same “Hinkel machine / manual blend” that I use! Now, that’s some real “cahoonies?”

But that’s not why I’m posting.

See, her $40 for 15-minutes is sort of the industry standard. If you notice, her 1-hour fee is $85: also standard. Actually, a bit low.

Recently, in Santa Barbara, all the electrologists raised their 15-minute appointment to $45. My fee is simple: I won’t do it! … YES, I will do 15-minute appointments for a client who had a “significant problem.” But not the person who is tweezing and fiddling daily, and then presents me with six hairs that I can’t see because they are shaved too close.

Yeah, it’s like that. Actually, there are no “15-minutes appointments!” The client with “nearly no hair” is difficult to schedule, you can’t get them on the phone (or email), they change their appointment several times and then, typically, don’t show up at all (if it’s not important they forget). Oh, but they will call you and want to come in “immediately” … yes, even on Sunday … like “right now, or I’m going to tweeze!”

Once in the office, even with only a few “stragglers,” you hear all the complaints and you usually spend a good half-hour explaining hair growth (again) for the “umpteenth” time. Officially, I charge $20 for a 15-minute appointment … but that’s for clients who are “at the end of treatment” and only have scattered hairs left (actually, I don’t charge at all at that point.)

I would rather work 1-hour for FREE than take-on a “difficult 15-minute client” for $40. And, I do! Lots of times.

I recently finished a really desperate woman (beard) and gave her 42-hours of work for free (she had no money)! But then, that’s just the way this “grumpy old dude” works! She’s wonderful, by the way.

I think the common $40 fee, for 15-minutes, reflects the same difficulty I’ve encountered all these years. Grumble grumble … he he he!