Laser on chest, back and shoulders - Help Plz!

Yes I was asked to come back in 10 - 12 weeks so I will indeed return around this time or later IF I don’t feel enough hair has grown back in that time.

The hairs don’t slide out per se, I do have to tug them but they come out easily with zero pain.

So now should I notice over the coming weeks my hair appear to be “growing” but in actual fact it is the dead hears being expelled from their follicle?

Hi guys, had my second treatment yesterday which is around 10 weeks since my first. I again maxed out the machine which I believe is 15mm spot and 30J on a cynosure machine.

This time i used a new razor and plenty of shaving gel the night before so most of the hairs where level or just a little above the skin surface.

It still hurt a lot but was a quicker operation as I had less hairs and the hairs were a lot shorter than last.

From day 1 which you can see in the pics at the start of this thread to yesterday i had around 40% less hair from the start. The area around the test patch (as it has been treated twice) has very minor amounts of hair so it looks like I’m responding well to laser hair removal.

Fingers crossed

Ye, 15mm and 30j is maxed out. Make sure the pulse with is 10ms or less. You should get decent results with such settings. And for first 4 treatments, I’d recommend 18mm spot size for deeper penetration into deep coarse roots.

Hi guys, just a quick update it’s been 10 weeks since my second treatment and I must say I feel I have responded extremely well however I would like your input.

For around 7 weeks I was hair free and then started growing back some fine ones which to be honest I am happy with. From a distance of 1 meter or so you would still think my chest was hair free.

I expected that it would take at least 4 to 6 treatments before I would be at the level I am now from what I read and was told?

As you can see from my start to now I have 90% less hair and hear all thicker hairs are gone thus making my chest and abs look somewhat hairless.

I am expecting more growth over the next 4 weeks or so but given the duration already and the minimal regrowth is it really likely that much more hair will grow to bring back a distinctive “snail trail”?

Congratulations! The treatment looks like it’s working well. As it should… you’re an ideal candidate.

If I were you, I’d probably wait a bit, and get another treatment done. But that’s purely on the basis that I don’t like hair, and now that your hairs are “in cycle” it’s the time to hit them most efficiently.

BTW - I’ve just had 4 treatments on back and shoulders. I think my skin is darker and hairs are finer than yours, and my results have been great so far. From the pics you’ve posted, I see no reason why you couldn’t get your back and shoulders done too, provided you’ve got a good practitioner.

Hey Aitaronz sorry for the late reply, you are right it is good to continue treatment and I have booked myself in for today for my third treatment.

Its been 14 weeks now and below is a pic of what hair I have:

This is somewhere between 10 and 15 percent of what I used to have from the pic on page 1…

Around 14 weeks since last treatment and another nice result with a noticeable reduction in regrowth vs last pic above.

The image above is 14 weeks after my 3rd treatment. I am booked in for my 4th and hopefully last next Tuesday.

14 weeks is long between treatments for chest. Don’t wait more than 12 weeks and better to keep it shorter than that, even if you feel less hair is growing. Lasee is effective on anagen hair only so waiting more than 2 months means your hair will cycle into telogen. Telogen hair will shed post treatment but it doesn’t mean you’re killing it.

I thought at any given time hair is in one of three stages so regardless of when someone got laser hair removal there would always be hair follicles in the anagen phase and therefore receptive to the laser. Not true???

Yes the hair is always at different stages and there is always anagen phase present in some % hairs, but the longer you wait into a cycle the more of the late anagen phase hair turns into telogen. There is always more hair % in telogen phase and it lasts longer than anagen phase. So it’s better to keep laser treatments not longer than 2 months in order to catch more hair in late anagen.

Hi, my point is you are going to only reduce the length of the hairs follicle with laser hair removal. 14 weeks is not enough to prove that the treatment has been effective. Laser won’t destroy the hair but will minimize them. If i were you, i would definitely go for electrolysis with a good practitioner instead of loosing money in no-permanent hair removal method such lasers and ip which are not FDA approved.

If i were you, i would definitely go for electrolysis with a good practitioner instead of loosing money in no-permanent hair removal method such lasers and ip which are not FDA approved.

Odd, because the FDA started approving lasers for hair removal in 1997 (see here: http://tinyurl.com/pzpzowx)

I’d be very interested to know where you got your source from, because as far as I can tell, you’re making things up.

Approved for use but not to make the claim “permanent hair removal” Only electrolysis can legally make that claim.

I think it’s wrong to mislead the consumers on facts. Laser has established itself and it’s not going anywhere because it does work at permanent hair reduction. I finished laser in 2012 and I’m still holding at 75-80% reduction. The hairs that were killed are destroyed for good. No, my remaining hair has not minimized because of laser. Electrolysis holds its own reputation and laser bashing is not required. There are circumstances where electrolysis is the only option, but for large body areas, especially on men, Laser can do a lot of good for the hair suffer without bankrupting them to achieve similar results with electrolysis. You should read our laser success thread with many happy client results.
Using confusing legal jargon and labels from the FDA to confuse hair suffers about laser is a disservice for all of us. I had years of electrolysis done as well and know that both systems offer help to hair suffers.

fenix, I think the point is that you do not know if Laser has ‘killed’ follicles in the same way as elecrolysis and whether it is truly permanent… it’s always a gamble to some extent. Some people start experiencing regrowth many years down the road. It for sure does “minaturise” follicles as well (could be few, could be many)… so the follicles are still active but the hairs are very fine and tiny.

I’m not bashing Laser as I’ve had very successful results. One thing I always tell people though is that the skin after Laser and the skin after good electrolysis is very different. The latter leading to much smoother skin which suggests to me that Lasered follicles don’t go through the same healing process.

I’m agnostic (read that skeptical) on everything. My only recommendation to all prospective hair-removal clients is to not summarily rely on any authoritative statement of ANY kind … including the FDA!

Always test the “product” (on) yourself before spending a fortune on either laser or electrolysis. I have, over the years, seen total failures with both systems and disappointed and ripped-off laser and electrolysis clients. (And, fine results from both as well.)

Do not rely on “celebrity endorsements,” e.g., Dr. Oz! Do not believe those ridiculous self-serving “patient endorsements” you read on well-designed websites. And, don’t put total trust in FDA statements! (Maybe I’ll start a list of what might be helpful or semi-believable for prospective clients?)

Since 1982 until the present time, the FDA has been under constant political pressure from both the “right” and the “left.” Under pressure from “Conservatives” so that products could get to market sooner, and from the “Liberals” so life-saving (HIV) drugs could be used more quickly. Overall, the agency is under funded and, while they try to protect consumers, their task is virtually impossible today.

Arguing which method is better, based on FDA statements, is like arguing whether Santa Claus is better than the tooth fairy.

You are right Michael, the most important thing is the results.

With the hand of a skilled electrologist, electrolysis is THE permanent hair removal method, and the only one wich can garantee permanent results.

Merci Adrien,

Je suis le neveu do Michael …

AND that’s as far as we got! This site will not accept the Frence accents?

Anyway … Eric was saying that’s he fluent in French and if you have technical questions, please send them (in French) to my private email.

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I think there is room for both electrolysis and laser. Laser won’t work on all types of hair and sometime electrolysis has to be used to finish the job.