ok! this guy just ruined my hopes…as you can see I was writing to medical forum…This is what he said to me… http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Dermatology/sunken-scars-from-electrolysis/show/988735
Keep hoping, ivmi. Two and a half months does not equal 18 months. Let nature fill this in from the bottom up. I know you are anxious to see signs that this resolving, but you have to be patient. A plastic surgeon recently told me that those over the counter creams with onion extract and such do nothing special for scars. Always have hope. Let time pass, then check into laser re-surfacing. I am not an expert on this, so I would be curious if anyone knows for sure if laser re-surfacing can be performed so close to the eye on such delicate tissue.
I liked that the good doctor said electrolysis scarring is rare. She?/He? is correct.
Dee
P.S. I’m still searching for that picture her on hairtell I told you about.
for now, I will tell one thing - you guys catch me when I fall!
When all my hopes disappear you tell me that there is hope! I’m going trough emotional crisis this time because of this scars - and you are helping me a lot! especially Dee! thank you!
I’ll keep posting!
I’ve decided to post a photo of my eyes day after that horror electrolysis here is pic http://i43.tinypic.com/2dakqpu.jpg
I do know that some pits are here because of probe low insertion, my right eyebrow has only one indented scar - and that scar is made because low insertion, these scars which I have been posting to you all the time are result of high levels and to long insertion… don’t ask me how I know that…i remember everything…some hair which was very close and was treated,connected and created one big pit…I already read some case of scarring here on forum…come people really do heal, but there are no pics, so I can’t know for certain if their problem was bad as mine…I can also remember that 2 or 3 weeks after electrolysis there was no pits only hyperpigmentation. Than it started dent…so i suspect on collagen loss…I hope that it wont get more indented…and i started to frightened of wrinkles because a lot of people with electrolysis pits suffer from wrinkles…
P.S. Dee i found that girl with chin scarring! but the picture disappear from that link! If i’m right her thread is on 155 page, here on Professional electrolysis…
hello guys!
ok here are the pics!
first is from when I started to write on hair tell
17.5.09.
and second - few days ago…
10.7.09
It looks like it is filling in, so there is hope. You need several more months of healing before you know for sure that time has helped mend this. What are you using topically? Eat a nutritious diet. I think we all know or can research what that means!
Dee
P.S. James, there was a picture of poster ‘tomblily’'s overtreated chin from 2005. It has disappeared from the link posted. Do you think the poster deleted his picture? Ivmi would like to view a picture of overtreatment. Can you remember seeing any other pictures here on hairtell of what electrolysis overtreatment looks like? I’m looking in my files for tomblily’s picture, but it is tedious and time consuming.
well…i don’t use anything special… :)) i use a sunblock creme and every day I stole a bit of my mom’s creme against age wrinkling :)) it’s called vichy lift activ pro :))…i thought that it will give my skin enough hydration :))
and…sometimes I keep ice in bag on it…cause I’ve heard that freezing the scar tissue can lead to heeling the scar…so I thought I can try,why not? it certainly can’t make it worse…
my scars are much better now…i’ll post the picture later…
only there is some more color from sun…although i was wearing sunglasses, and applying sunblock creme…i hope that it will get normal color with time…
From the vitamin therapy side of the equation, you can help improve the healing by getting 5 to 15 grams (yes, I said grams, not millagrams) of vitamin C per day. Dr. Linus Pauling advocated for that dose daily, for everyone (15 grams) and he and like minded collegues found higher doses to be beneficial for high stress, and healing situatoins.
You can’t zoom up to that high a dose unless you are in a high stress situation, so you have to start slow and ramp it up steadily. If you take more than you can stand, you just get diarrhea.
Burn patients have healed super quickly when given 50grams per day for 3rd degree burns. I would not imagine you would need more than 20 to 25 for the type of healing you seek. Of course, skin also likes to have plentiful Vtiamn A, E, and the full B-Complex. Use mega doses of these, and you will get your skin back, and maybe fis some sub-clinical problems you did not even know about.
hello!
as I promise…
14.8.09. ( electrolysis was made 8.4.)
the scars are not presented in their worst light but i think that you can imagine very well how they look like for real…
i bought vit C…im taking it in dosage of 1g per day…for now…i also apply after sun creme which has extract of aloe vera & A & E vitamins…and almost forgot…I’m taking pills which prepare skin for sun (with beta complex)…i think that it is enough…(?)
Oh, not to be a pest, but I forgot in the last post, vitamin D-3 will also help your body utilize the C, and E. If you eat a good amount of fish, you may not need supplements, but if you want to make sure, find some D-3 (not D-2) and go for it.
What are the advantages of using insulated probes?
It depends on where the insulated probes are being used. In theory, the insulated probe reduces the amount of the probe that is delivering treatment energy, and as such, protects from surface skin interacting in the treatment, and can limit the amount of treatment that reaches the upper portions of the follicle and as such, can allow more treatment to target only the germative growth cells. The problem is that this only works if the follicle depth is longer than the exposed probe ouside of the insulation. On eyebrows, most probe insulation would be too far up to be any protection at all. It should also be noted that insulation has a habit of flaking off the probes, and dissolving over the course of a blend treatment, and so in a long appointment, the insulation may fall away from the probe/needle anyhow.
hello there!
this looks like my scars-healing diary
tomorrow will be exactly 5 months from my electrolysis disaster
do you remember this picture?
10.5.2009.
well…this is from this week
this pic looks great really…you can see that my skin looks very normal when you’re in front of it…
only that bothers me are those pits…cause there are missing some layers deep under…i’m still hoping that it will fill in…i’m just wondering how much time i really have…some doctors said that it takes 6 months for scars to heal, but i choose to trust you and believe that it will take at least 6 more months cause i’m not content with this state
big hugs to james and dee :*
hi ivmi,
it is a huge improvement!
i think you just need to be patient. i’ve had typical scarring (brown marks) from spots/acne that took a year or ore to fade. so for something like this i’m not surprised that it may take a while.
if they are still visible and you are unhappy with them a year from now, there are cosmetics procedures that can fix it.
but yea, you shouldn’t have to be going through this and i do feel for you
This makes me wonder where I can find a electrolysist with enough skill to not put me in a worse situation.
just find a trained electrologist with many hours of experience…
maybe ask him to show you his previous work…
just don’t go to cosmetician like I did…well, actually i had luck some people really got bad pits…but i’ve heard that even those bad pits fade out in time
@stoppit
thnx! it’s good to know that it took a year for your problem to resolve…
idk much about this thread but from the pictures your eyes look great! =) just wanted to pass along a positive vibe
gives me hope my scarring will heal with time too
oh there is more of “us” here
i really think that yours will heal too…where do you have scars?when did you get yours scars?tell me about it? does it looks like mine? i had that poor electrolysis treatment 5 months ago, and i was very, very sad and disappointed that time…i really believed that it won’t get better at all…well it’s much better now, but i’m still hoping that it will fill in all the way…if you want some advices (from me - cause I’m going trough it, just send me PM i would be glad to help you! i know how much it means!)
anyway thank you a lot cathy! your positive vibes means so much to me! kiss to all of you…
ivmi and all,
Point to be made is that no type of electrolysis care should cause this level of angst where you have to sit and hope that time will resolve this type of skin overtreatment. THis is NOT what good electrolysis care and outcome offers. I am part of a large group of colleagues around the world that would never allow this to happen. This is a good example of what an unskilled, unprofessional “beauty technician” can do to a person. Everyone, please get as many consults as you can and get a short treatment session(s), initially, so you can see how it feels and heals. This advice pertains to the facial areas mainly.
Ivmi, I am personbally relieved for you. It is looking much better. Keep taking good care of yourself :). Also, you have served others more than you will ever know by staying loyal here and submitting pictures that show your healing progress. Pictures truly say more than a thousands words.