I have purchased the silk’n device and the video told me to shave before using it. I would like to use it on my arms but don’t want to shave them first. Would the device still work if i didnt shave them?
It probably will not work as well because the hair present on top of the skin would absorb more light energy. The light energy needs to concentrate below the skin as much as possible because that is where the hair growth takes place. Also, you may damage your skin with this energy if you do not shave these dark, full length hairs. You do have dark, coarse hairs on your arms, right?? The directions are there for a reason and I would follow the directions as laid out by the manufacturer and the doctor selling this device.
They tell to shave the hair because the heat may burn the hair on your skin and then damage the skin.
what if i trim them with scissors first?
Shaving is recommended. THe less hair left above the surface, the more energy there is to be dispersed for the hair growth tissue below the skin. Don’t waste the energy on the hair above the skin. This hair is dead already. What do you think the difference is between shaving and cutting the hair off with scissors?
if i trim it the hairs that do grow back wont grow back darker and thicker (yes i know some people say it is a myth but its what happens to my hairs)
You can trim it too, not much difference.
That is false, Kate. What you are feeling is the stubble where the thickest part of the hair has been cut. Shaving does not affect hair growth. Your situation is no different than any other human being. Shaving does not cause hair to grow back darker and thicker. There have been well-controlled scientific studies that were repeated over and over again by different researchers and they all came to the same the same conclusion.
You have to shave there. If not, the device can burn the hair which can then burn your skin. Beleive me, I have done it accidentally by just missing a few hairs when I shaved. Luckily, I didn’t scar myself. You might not be so fortunate! Is it worth having scars just because you don’t want to shave?
It sounds like you think shaving will change the structure of your hair. This is NOT true and has been proven scientifically many times. It’s an old-wives tale - it just seems like that’s what’s happening because most people start shaving when they’re developing more and more hair. So they start associating this hair with shaving, when it would have grown in regardless.
You NEED to shave for all these laser and IPL devices because the laser needs to target the hair UNDER the skin so it can disable it. You don’t want all the energy to be wasted on the hair above the skin.
Btw, please realize the this device is not likely to provide you with permanent results, but rather temporary removal. Make sure you understand this.
why only temporary?
Temporary, as in long term waxing. Doesn’t damage the hair follicles enough to affect them permanently.
It’s hard to expect something that costs 1/100th of the real thing to do the same job, and even the real thing doesn’t always provide the goods.
But then again, we don’t know enough to say that for a fact, we just assume.
so to buy a proper machiene is 130 000? because im interested in getting one.
anyway i used the device without shaving if in 2 weeks i see no results i will trim them and try it if then still no results ill be forced to shave them
I guess it doesn’t hurt to experiment and take it up incrementally. Let us know how this works for you, Kate.
Dee
This machine is not powerful enough to cause permanent damage to the follicle. I don’t know what Odi is talking about - it’s known in the industry what is necessary to achieve permanent damage to the follicle and no one claims or expects any permanent results from this thing. It’s not going to happen. It’s even hard to get permanent results with a more powerful professional IPL. This thing stands no chance.
What area are you treating? It may be cheaper or same price to get good professional treatments that will give you permanent results.
Once again, there is absolutely no reason you shouldn’t shave. It doesn’t do anything to the hair. Forget about the old wives’ tale.
The only thing she needs to understand is that virtually NONE of the lasers or IPL’s will produce permanent results with todays treatment recommendations and are also temporary. I have tried them all and none produce permanent results 6-8 weeks apart which is exactly why people are turning to home devices.
Maybe they are not as effective as professional machines but monthly maintenance will result in 100% hair free all the time vs. spending thousands and thousands of dollars on machines that might extend ur hair free time but at what cost and it’s still not PERMANENT so buying a home device is a much better decision.
You can now also hit the follicle weekly. In my experiences the only way to really damage the follicle root and blood vessels that supply blood flow to the shaft is to hit it more often, not less often. This 6-8 weeks interval is such non sense…lol. It’s just simply unaffordable to do it that way unless you have ur own machine. The 6-8 weeks is a recommendation by LASER companies…lol.
Why would anyone want to target and damage a hair follicle at its STRONGEST phase? That makes absolutely no sense at all! Target the follicle when it’s at its WEAKEST phase before the follicle shaft has a chance to rebuild itself completely. How do you think a hair follicle gets into the Anagen growth phase? It has to grow slowly to get there. It needs to be targeted while in the beginning of the growth phase not the end of it. The problem is there is no way to know when that might be so repeated assaults are necessary.
I keep hearing people who supposedly know what they are talking about say that this device is not powerful enough to produce permanent results…lol. I can say the same thing for 99% of the professional machines out there. If one targets their hair follicle with a home device and a week later the hair is stunted then you have targeted the hair follicle. This isnt rocket science.
How deep do you think it actually has to go? Not very far I can tell you. It’s heat! Period! What will make a difference is repeated assaults on the blood vessels that supply blood and disable them BEFORE they get a chance to repair themselves. You would think that after a decade of failed treatments and protocals that someone might have clued themselves into this by now. But the people who own laser centers will never tell you that cause they know people could not afford to go once a week.
With your own device you can.
Permanent results are achievable. Just not from a laser center 6-8 weeks apart… I targeted two very small areas on my body weekly with a Laser for (6) months. One was on my face, the other my stomach. (5) years later and I am still hair free in those areas.
Frequency, NOT power will yield the best results.
I don’t know what you’ve tried, but there is obviously something wrong with your treatments. PROPER treatments are mandatory for results, BUT the right type of hair and skin needs to be treated too. If you actually list exactly what you’ve tried, for how long, at what settings, etc AND post pictures of the hair you’re trying to remove, we can help you figure out what is missing from your equation.
Your general assumptions are not universally true and are only based on your personal experiences (which is fine of course, but you need to realize that that’s not universally the case for everyone or even for most people when things are done right). Clinics are not in business for 10 years when they’re not getting anyone results. (Of course there are plenty of clinics who are in business for a year or two only - and their past customers do often post here complaining.)
In fact, the reason I contribute so much to this forum IS because I did the research and got tremendous PERMANENT results (2-3+ years permanent at this point depending on the area), and help consumeres here along with others not waste their time and money. You can read my story at the link below.
I understand if you don’t want to provide us with more details as you sound fed up with whatever stories you’ve been told and whatever you’ve been promised by unscrupulous clinics. But do understand that this is an UNBIASED forum where we are only here to provide consumers with information on HOW to get results and IF results are possible int he first place given their unique hair situation.
This doesn’t deter from the fact that this home machine doesn’t have enough power to damage the hair permanently. You seem to realize this. It’s all about having correct expectations.
Btw, it’s the SETTINGS and specs of each machine that determine how deep the heat penetrates and with what intensity. These settings are all variable, and if one doesn’t know how to vary them properly for each situation (there are usually 2-3 variables at least), then results won’t be achieved. It isn’t about just pointing and shooting the laser. Professional machines have about 500 times better specs than the home machines, both in terms of penetration and intensity. That’s where the real difference comes in and why experienced professionals can tell you for 100% when something is not going to work. For example, a professional Yag machine won’t produce any permanent results if the pulse width used is above 100ms. It can be the best machine in the world, but it still won’t at that inappropriate setting.
Is it true that if you take the pill (alesse to be more specific)and then you IPL treatments your hair will still continue to grow, because alesse has a lot of hormones? Thus resulting on wasting money because your hair will continue to grow?.. and also they told me that the best pill to avoid that is YAZ, true???
I would appreciate if someone can help me here, because i just started IPL on the face (sideburns) and im concerned because i take alesse, i dont want to end up looking the same.
Tank you