Great story, great success
Mi Jossie, I feel the same way.
Te quiero tambien, mi guapissima.
PS: I love the cartoon
edited - it was about me not belivieng that the results presented here in photos are authentic - but because this is only a suposition not entirely backed up by proof, i will retire my post, and take this thread with a grain of salt - but in solitude.
what intrigued me was that boy and josepha posted at very short time intervals after eachother, that when she mentioned the costs of laser and IPL, he immediately found the bills, wich had really "round " figures (10.000 euros, not 9.700, not 12.500…), that they talked very familiar with eachother, almoast too familiar… and the posting from her IPAD part, if you read this thread you will find it…
but, if i am the only one who is the non-believer around here, i will retire because i dont want the many people who are here , some of them desperately looking for an inspiration, and i must accept that Mrs Reina has brought A LOT of inspiration to everyone with her thread with many pictures…
but I cant belive that they are just as real as presented here, i thik that thay omit or enhance the truth… its just a personal thing, i dont mean any harm to anyone. and please take it as a non-believer-syndrome, it very well could be.
You are the only “non-believer.” Both involved have been posting on here for years, and we have seen many other similar wonderful results from Josefa. There is no “enhancement” or lying going on. Other electrologists on here such as James and Mike can also deliver such amazing results. Perhaps a bit more research before making such suppositions.
I’m another “scammer”(I’ve been waiting since 2008 to trick people like you) who flew from another country for the treatments and can confirm Josefa’s amazing work.
Yes, I think you should retire as you say. Or atleast the mods should erase your posts because of how you tried to damage somebodys reputation here. Not cool.
I spent the day out-of-town so I’m weighing in late.
I’ve been in this field for 40 years and have met hundreds of electrologists in many countries indeed. Not to diminish any of these wonderful brilliant people, but let me simply say the following.
In all these 40 plus years, I have met only one true genuine truthful 100% absolutely believable colleague … and that’s Jossie. Our style of doing this is identical, and that’s probably the root of the “sympathetic” sentiment I have for this amazing woman.
Do I really have to say more?
What you see and read? Just believe it “sucka!”
Jossie’s only fault is being too kind, generous and warm-hearted.
My final thought on this:
Well, look what they did to Jesus!
I got to see how the planets are aligned these days!
In the past week, there have been some reprehensible sucker punching going on, which only proves that one should never strive to be too successful at what they do. Oink!
Ok then , it should be deleted, if all the judges say so…
i would delete it myself now but the time has passed and i can no longer edit it.
… I understand that everyone here is like a sick man who needs some words of confort - or motivating stories - but i once saw a documentary about cancer cure clinics - where they did nothing except taking BIG money from people who ended up dead in the end, promising for miraculeos cures…
But now, with all the posting here, i understand that this is not the case. probably.
It is very rare that the management around here deletes things. In most cases, it is best to allow the discussion to reach its conclusion and for people to be able to make their own decisions based on as many informational contributions as are available.
Some contributions prove themselves to be more useful than others.
Even in the cases where folks have attacked the top posters and members of the management team, we have largely left those posts on the board for all to see. In some cases you can even see people contradict themselves, pouring vitriol on a person in one post and showering that same person with praise the next.
One of the main reasons this board exists is that getting a view of what is possible and to be expected in hair removal is not as easy as falling off a log, and this board fills the need for being a place where that information can be found.
It is a testament to the wide range of potential in this industry that while one set of people finds a particular practice or result to be incredulous and unbelievable, others find the same thing to be a simple mundane example of everyday work. No matter which end of the spectrum of treatment possibility, the reason some view that result one way or another is that it matches, or deviates from their experience, or available information set. We hope that HairTell has been instrumental in making it possible for people to expand their knowledge and understand that what ever your experience, or expectations, the possibilities of what is available out there is wider than any one person’s experience and knowledge. It is the main reason we tell people to get as many consultations as possible before going with any one so that one may understand what is available to one in one’s own backyard, and possibly what is available to those who are willing to travel a bit. The fact that those who travel continue to do so, can only mean that they find the results received to be worth the trip.
Exactly.
And since traveling seems to be more or less out of reach for this guy, the best he can probably do is giving the electrologist in his town a chance. She has invested in expensive equipment (which, btw., is hard to earn back with an hourly rate of 25 EUROs), and that equipment is fully capable of the treatment Josefa demonstrated in this thread: the “original European guy” had been treated with multiplex.
So it all depends on thorough insertions and thorough clearance of all visible hairs. BTW: as far as i remember, the treatment strategy was “keep it clean and advance”, wasn’t it?
I agree with you, James…Here goes the original post.
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Exactly.
And since traveling seems to be more or less out of reach for this guy, the best he can probably do is giving the electrologist in his town a chance. She has invested in expensive equipment (which, btw., is hard to earn back with an hourly rate of 25 EUROs), and that equipment is fully capable of the treatment Josefa demonstrated in this thread: the “original European guy” had been treated with multiplex.
So it all depends on thorough insertions and thorough clearance of all visible hairs. BTW: as far as i remember, the treatment strategy was “keep it clean and advance”, wasn’t it? [/quote]
Yes, I know that some users are more useful than others.
But, in case I will have ANY results, I will post the pictures, because I don’t want that my only contribution for this site is this (begining now to think) ugly and unfounded hunch, that these pictures are not 100% real…
So I Will try to have a separate contribution (in a separate thread) but for now, i will retire.
Yes, I know that the mark is set high by the photos here, and I can see what you Imply, that not everyone (probably not my electrologyst in any case) will have the fast and good results of Mrs Reina - although also working on a Apilus , but Pure - and this can be very true.
I do not mind if the forum administrators choose to delete this post, and especialy the one that questions the veridicity of the photos, and the unfounded Scam accuse, because i bring no much help to those in need of treatment.
On the other hand - this thread really gives them hope, and also a few tips that they can try etc.
Ok, sorry for you all and expecially Mrs Reina, and I will only come back on a separate thread, with my journal, in case I will see any results at more than 3 months after the first treatment.
My God!
I didn’t see these posts before now.
Hairyeuropeanguy, I can assure you Im a real person and the results are real and genuine.
I understand some people might find it hard to believe that it is possible to obtain such spectacular results, but that is the main reason why people post their stories. To show that it actually IS possible and give hope to others.
The reason why the results were obtained so fast, is because Josefa is what we would call “a Hummingbird”. She can work at an extremely high speed (think the record was 51 hairs per minute, right Jossie?), AND at the same time kill the hairs.
Hence:
High speed + high kill rate + 4 trips to Malaga (of 1-3 weeks duration) = MIND BLOWING RESULTS.
Take a flight to Oslo, Norway, and I can show you myself
Yes, for now allow me to be a little bit skeptical, because I saw you don’t post for months, then, when Mrs Reina posts, you reply at 30min after… the reverse being also true. Seems like you and Her always end up near this forum on the SAME hour intervals… wich is great .
Yes, sorry, but this thread is too “perfect” for me… just like a nice movie … with happy end… do you see where i am going?
I found a little hard to belive that you post from Mrs Reina IPAD, in her office, then Mrs Reina posts too… that she launches the question about the amout you have payed for the failed laser and IPL, and imediately you reply, just as you had beaen eagerly waiting for that question…
And even this reply, ather months of not showing up here, you apprear “just in time” to save the day… with a very good synchronisation, just 30 min later , with Mrs Reina, wich posts a reply in the “hairy european guy” , quoting what I said as ridiculous…
Well, i saw probably too many Columbo series, but I would really be interested in someting like "Diary of a Asian guy… " … inspired by scandinavian… inspired by european… etc.
And yes, sorry guys, but no matter how i try, and i try, this thread still dosent make it for me. but with all the belivers here, this is of not great importance.
I will keep the promise with updates in my case, in case there will be any, anyway.
hairyeuropeanguy, I don’t really want to keep entertaining you.
boy1989 doesn’t have much reason to keep posting but that doesn’t mean he’s not reading the forums regularly. The posts you are making warrant a response from him so it’s not a surprise.
Josefa forges a strong relationship with her clients, especially the foreign ones who are on her table day in day out for days or weeks. boy1989 spent a couple of weeks with Jossie at the beginning of the year - my best friend was there for a little treatment and met him. I’m still waiting for him to visit London one day to show him around. When he was unsure, I remember telling him to “go for it”. Anyhow, it’s not really that strange that Jossie allowed him to post from her iPAD. I’ve not used her iPAD but I have checked my mail on her PC. I guess boy1989 wins.
Here is the diary of an Asian girl for now:
Anyway, you don’t need to believe. In fact, Jossie’s waiting list could do with people not ‘believing’.
I would only say this…Please, God be merciful with your future electrologist.
I would not like to be on her shoes.
In any case, good luck hairysouspiciousguy. :crazy:
thankyou , i am merciful with her, because i am doing atest patch for the moment, and i know that she can’t deliver the 56hair/minute hair count… as some profesionals do
but if electrolisis brings some results, i will post them, because, even if we don’t trust (me in Your regard) or despise (You in my regard) each other, our goal is to proove the efectiveness of electro.
So I really wish you all the good luck in treating your patients efectively.
You might search for (the few) pictures posted by other electrologists. Maybe actually the latter are interesting - simply because i am still fairly at the beginning of my career and still have a lot to learn and to improve my results. Nevertheless even i am among those who are able to obtain results quickly.
boy1989: You did not mention one important thing: the ability to work through long and exhausting sessions of several hours a day and the willingness and ability to work close to Your own limits.
You are absolutely correct Beate. She works twice (or more) as hard as most people. I dont think I have ever met a person who is so commited and passionate about her work as Josefa. The care she provides for her clients is unique.
Hairyeuropeanguy, WHAT A HORRIBLE ORIGINAL POST YOU HAVE WRITTEN.
I didn’t see it before now.
I am so offended by what you have written about Josefa, that I dont know where to begin.
So, you think she has made up characters (myself included) to promote her work and get more clients? That the photos we have posted isn’t actually photos of me? That she spends her time here fooling people into travelling to Spain to get treatments? That she actually has fooled everyone here on Hairtell?
WOOW! How do I reply to this in a civilized manner without breaking the rules here on the forum? I dont think it is possible…
You don’t have a clue about how much time she spends helping people with hair-problems. The long days she works or how much time she has spent helping people through the internet.
The reason why she participates on this forum is to promote electrolysis in general. To give people hope, that there actually is a solution out there. Not to get new clients.
What makes you be so fast to accuse her of the awful things you have written?
As stoppit wrote, I am still active on Hairtell. I tune in almost every day. This is because I want to help others (people write private messages to me) and because I want to see whats new on the forum. The fact that I post “right after” Josefa many times, is because I love reading her posts. For me, its a little bit like Christmas eve, to see what she has written.
And YES. This thread may seem like a fairytale, because IT IS. It is a story about a boy who had a severe problem with hairs, who actually had his whole body covered in hairs. (I would say that in reality, the situation was at least twice as horrible as the before-pictures demonstrates). He travelled to Spain, and met this beautiful person, Josefa Macias Reina. Now, he is free of the huge complex.
Wouldn’t you, who says you have problems with hairs, characterize this as a fairtytale?