Beard Electrolysis

I am looking to get hair on my stomach and chest removed after I finish my face. I know that electrolysis is permanent but since my chest and stomach is so much bigger than my face, would laser be a better option for that? Or should I stick to electrolysis?

The proper laser for your skin color will work if your hair is dense, dark and coarse. Of course, the laser specialist needs to use the proper energy levels. The chest and abdominal area responds pretty well to laser reduction, but no ne can tell you honestly what the percentage of reduction will be.

If laser can knock out the bulk of bigger, darker hairs, electrolysis can get the rest that won’t respond.

Also, from my understanding, a male beard takes so much time because of the cycles in which the hair grows in, making treatment time unpredictable. Would this be the same for chest hair? Or would it take less clearings to get results? I am interested in laser but I want all the hair gone and if I have to do laser and electrolysis, I would rather just do electrolysis.

As an alternative point-of-view, you’ll be spending about 12 months or so to clear your beard (assuming you clear it completely). Now because all of the focus is up there, you have 12 months of other areas having no treatment. An option would be to laser some area (assuming it’s appropriate to) that you won’t do electrolysis on for awhile, so that way while your beard is being cleared, you’re treating another area and reducing hair there so by the time you get to the newer area, a lot of hair is already cleared out.

For example, while I had my beard cleared, I wanted to also reduce the hair on my legs. With knowing that my beard was still a long time from being done, I lasered my legs some and the hair is substantially reduced. Now if I ever decide to remove more hair there, electrolysis will go much faster.

Hi everybody, I would like to hear your opinion about my work on a female beard (hormonal imbalance).
I’ve uploaded photos from first session to full clearance and photos after few days and two weeks.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByAkNh96IBnlM3ZTc1JyZzNaQm8

I worked with Apilus platinum pure (syncro around 200 e.L., F2 probe)

A “ding” here and there, but overall looks fine … looks like good work and clear skin ahead.

Healing doesn’t look bad. I’m curious if you worked with insulated probe? Were hairs releasing on single zap or you needed several zaps? It’s not easy to ask a public forum to judge your work. Many electrologists shy away from displaying their work in fear of hearing negative opinions on their skill. You mean well and will excel in your career.

I am also going to have my electrologist start on my hands and upper chest this next session. Will my hands or chest need as many clearances as my face?

Thank you so much for your comment! It’s a big encouragement :slight_smile:

I did not work with an insulated probe and I needed a few zaps for most of the hairs while some got released after only one zap.
Displaying my work and hearing your comments about it only helps me to improve :slight_smile: Thank you!

Today I had my fifth session and forth clearance overall. My chin was very painful today, not sure why. This session was two hours and twenty minutes in total and cost me $100. I didn’t shave at all between my last appointment and today, which was exactly 2 weeks ago.

I want to get my neck treated but I am not worried if it is fully clear. Would laser be a better option since I have a lot of hair there and then finish it up with electrolysis?

I have been going to sessions every 2 weeks and she has been able to clear everything in around 2 and 1/2 hours. Would I get results faster if I went every week?

No. If an area has been cleared it is advisable to give the skin enough time to recover and the hair time to fully regrow. Which means 2-3 months.

My current electrologist has been dealing with her son’s health issues for the past month and a half so I have not been able to get any work done. I have been looking at two alternatives.

http://www.electrology.com/member.html?uid=462&which=1

http://www.electrology.com/member.html?uid=3441&which=1

The one below is my current one

http://www.electrology.com/member.html?uid=1021&which=1

The two that I’m looking at are at least a 3 hour drive for me. I would like to go to the one who also uses thermolysis, but I have a friend of a friend who knows the one who does blend. Can anyone help me out here on who I should go see? Would blend be more effective on my beard? My current electrolgist is able to clear my beard in a little over 2 hours. Would that be able to be done with blend?

No, with blend it could be 4x-5x longer if on average the blend formula is such that it takes 6-8 seconds to release EACH hair being treated. But if blend is done well, there is more kill rate meaning you should be spending less time on table getting clearances because Thermolysis has a poorer kill rate with each treatment. This is why you see high regrowth of hair that comes in less thick with each session until the follicle is damaged enough with Thermolysis for hair to stop coming in.

Stop me if I am wrong, but you are saying that thermolysis has a poorer kill rate than blend? Do you consider 99% kill rate after 3 clearances of thermolysis is a poor kill rate?
When you does properly electrolysis, thermolysis or blend whatever, hair does not come less thick with each sessions as you say. A properly treated hair will not grow at all. The subject was already discussed here many times.

Can you name me at least 5 electrologists who claim to achieve 3 clearances with 99% kill rate with thermolysis or blend on beard or body?
When I describe electrolysis or blend, it’s based on over 3 years experience in getting treatments myself, sampling 6 electrologists: none of whom claim anything remote to what you describe!
Now, I’m not saying you’re lying and obviously we all know Josefa’s ability by now. But for the rest of us getting electrolysis around the world here, we have to accept realistic expectations from what overwhelming majority of electrology industry can do with their training and practice experience.

I can’t tell people here to expect 3 clearances with 99% kill rate when they or I will not find it from the next 40 electrologists we will go to.

Agree with Fenix. Kill rates and "modality?’ After 40+ years on this subject … well, I’ve given up. (Such discussions are a “fool’s game.”)

Here are a couple of my own "discoveries.’ For me (ONLY … just me!), I found blend to be more effective than when I do thermolysis (but that’s just me! Don’t get "your’ panties in a bunch!). But is the blend really any better?

Another piece of (conflicting) data: An electrologist in my home town uses the same machine I use (blend) and went to the same school I went to. She spent 127 hours "trying to remove’ just the chin hairs on a TG client’s beard … and, in my opinion, got about 10% clearance. These results are essentially fraudulent.

So, what’s the answer? Answer: There is no (definitive) answer. Toss in "area of clearance’ based on the sex-hormone-specific area, age and gender of the client and other factors, e.g., the patient’s perceptions, and you end up with nothing definitive.

Yes, there are specific areas where I can easily guarantee results. But these are very specific. Facial hair (women) is another narrative.

@Fenix : I don’t have such experience in this field as you claim to have. It is been (only) 2 years now I am doing electrolysis treatment and I am studying and practicing electrolysis hair removal.

You didn’t answer me, so let me please repeat again : do you consider 99% kill rate after 3 clearances of thermolysis is a poor kill rate ?

If a fact is demonstrated and prooved by few people, should we occult it because the majority still claim this fact is impossible ?

So, if you lived in the begining of the XVII century, did you still claim the Earth is the center of the planet system as the big majority thought, only because Galileo was (almost) the only one who demonstrated that this theory is false ?

99% kill rate after 3 clearances is not a fantaisy, is not false claim. This is a prooved fact, this a realistic expectation results of electrolysis hair removal.

I feel sorry that your 6 electrologists are not able to acheive this rate. It must have a reason to explain this.

In USA live someone called Michael Bono, do you know him ? he published some books about electrolysis hair removal. You will easily find some of his work results in this forum also.

I am not one of them who think poor or bad electrolysis should be the norm and the “realistic expectations”. I am one of them who want to inform people and fight against ignorance.

Look, I have the same issue in France : everybody says electrolysis is only for white hair in a very very little treated area, you can not treat big area such as back, shoulders, arms, you can not treat fine hair, you can only treat anagen hair…

All these claims are false. I can not stand listening or reading false claims. So I continue to inform people and fight against myths about electrolysis.

I am not saying to know every electrologists in the world, but some know to treat hair, others don’t.

I do not dispute the fact that a lot of so-called electrologists have a very low kill-rate, this is very sad for clients who need a permanent hair removal. But telling that the technique of thermolysis it-self is responsable of that poor results is completly false.

The only reason of poor results is the hands of the practicionner.