In response to Hairy’s inquiry, I personally doubt if anybody has done more research or spent more time on trying, wishing, dreaming to rid myself as Andrea puts it “unwanted hair” which takes place on my back, shoulders, upper arms, adobmen, i think you get the picture. But I tried electrolysis years ago (before lasers were even stumbled upon by that one scientist and his black carbon accident he had on his arm,) and at the time after only a few sessions I knew I didn’t have the money to complete what i wanted to do and gave up. Of course i was like anybody who wants something so badly you would sell your soul, I got cautiously optimistic when the laser info started to proliferate publicly. After realizing the costs of laser I wanted to hear some real stories and see hard evidence that this was permanent and I mean permanent not reduction. I spent countless hours on the consumer beware site (I know Andrea, hindsight is 20/20) reading all this supposed feedback from real consumers, I finally decided that this might work. Now this is just me and maybe lasers are like drugs, some people react positively and their condition is cured and some people it just doesn’t help. I supposedly was the perfect candidate / pale skin, dark hair, 30+ yrs of age,(less chance of hormonal change- human body is a finicky thing i have come to find out)so anyway I had a experienced practioner using Candela Gentlelase Plus, we used every combination of settings and joules 18mm spot down to 8mm spot and I had 2 tx’s that basically lasered the area i described above twice and everything went as researched ( you had follicular damage and shedding 10-15 days later) and i was fully prepared physically and fiscaly to go for 6-7 treatments or really whatever it took, thinking that there would be some reduction after each treatment even it was only 5-10% each time. well after 2 complete tx’s , results were absolutely no visible reduction at all. My fees were $1800 1st TX, 1250 2nd, 900 3rd and she agreed to 750 for any tx’s 4 and beyond, which i thought was reasonable for the large area. Anyway like I said after 2 no results and when I went back for a 3rd, this proves it wasn’t someone just trying to take my money, she said she was very disappointed in the results and she agreed to do a area on my stomach for nothing so we did a basically a research project we divided up 4 areas and used different spot sizes to see if there was any difference. The bottom line is this stomach area had a total of 4 tx’s and i can positively say there has been no follicles permanently killed. If it works for some people, they should consider themselves very fortunate and me very jealous. So i am doing what I should have done years ago and continued with electrolysis, bankrupt or not and i would proably be finished at this point. But I have committed myself to my electolysist and I have a multiprobe unit at home and I have been doing this for about 2 months now and I literally have square inches of skin that don’t have any “terminal hairs” (which is lovely) but nothing is perfect, because even after a couple of good areas that I have cleared on my arm and my stomach, you can still see there are still alot of finer lighter,vellus hairs. I don’t think being really hair free is gonna be in my lifetime, but getting rid of the longer darkers hairs is a huge appearence improvement. Whew!! Good luck to everyone and everybody thank Andrea for the time and effort.