Accelerated/Marathon Electrolysis?

Hair Removal Methods Professional Electrolysis
#21

That’s an average price in LA nowdays. Tina’s rates went up to that a few years ago as well. Once you become a regular, you can try to work out a deal with the electrologist where you pay up front for a number of hours and get some hours free. I did that with mine.

I would still urge you to check out a couple electrologists so you can compare everything. Try Tina at Zap Electrolysis as well as Robin Harris. They’re all in the same neighborhood.

I still also advise to try Yag laser first. Your situation is perfect for laser since the hair is not super dense, but it’s very coarse and causes irritation. You may only need 2-3 treatments to get rid of the irritation.

#22

I will definitely be keeping some others in mind.
Laser will always seem like a waste of money in my mind, too many people I know that have had it done are not satisfied.

#23

BUT! Alot of people are very pleased with laser hair reduction. Laser cannot fulfill and satisfy every unwanted hair case, only electrolysis can do that, but it certainly can help get a certain amount of reduction for a good percentage of people. We see patterns here where good laser hair care has accomplished much, of course, most consumer laser failures who post come here to ask why it didn’t work for them. Success stories don’t bother to testify about their positive experience and why should they bother?

Electrolysis, coupled with a well-trained or re-trained electrologist, will get you results. Do a careful hunt.

#24

This website is full of great resources but to my suprise it seems to lack the fundamentals that back it up, such as success pictures and blogs. I find more answers to questions than I do actual pictures of clearances. To be honest, the only pictures I have really been shown that maybe considered proof of clearance is on James’s website.

I’m no humanitarian but I can fully understand how helping others for the sake of vanity wouldn’t hurt. Maybe I’m not looking hard enough? I doubt that. And I doubt someone with complete clearance would totally ditch the idea of spreading the word… Women help eachother out all the time on make-up websites.
It’s a lot easier to finish up and leave without saying anything but it’s imperative to keep electrolysis on the map and advocate how much it has done…

#25

Yes, I agree with your comments, but getting pictures from electrologists requires permission from our clients. I would ask my clients to do this themselves, but believe it or not, many times there have been comments made here accusing me and James of promoting ourselves in order to get financial rewards. Can you imagine if we were constantly posting before and after pictures here? Our motivation would be questioned or we would be accused of photo shopping the results to make it look better than what really happened…

There are plenty of consumers who have posted here over the years with their stories. Pictures are not added as a rule, but wouldn’t that be nice. Many posters have been very, very good about updating their stories or I guess you can call them journals, these journals span over a period of time and you can watch them evolve complete with all their feelings and bumps along the way. It’s kind of neat. Read ‘laserhater’s’ post. That one remains readily in my memory, but there are other success stories.

Another thing, electrolysis would not still be around after 130+++++ years if it was not a process that gave people results.

I’ll try to get more before and after pictures and risk being called a self-promoter.

Dee

#26

You make a great point Dee.

As it happens, I met one of Fino Gior’s clients who had given him permission to post his pictures, and use them in his promotional materials and web sites. So Fino had a progression of pictures spanning about 2 or 3 years work on this man’s chest hair. He went from a VERY hairy man, to a bare chested and bare backed man.

The photographs were taken over 3 years, using different cameras, some of them poloroids, and these were transferred to the web and print via scans, and software packages. People accused Fino of photoshopping the images just because there was differences in the quality of the photos, and some even pointed out that the body of the person depicted was of a different color and build over the progression of the photos.

If some one took a picture of your bare chest every 3 months, and then took every other one and layed them side by side, wouldn’t you have some pictures with a tan, some pale skinned, and would not your winter pictures have less muscle tone than your high summer pictures?

Needless to say, I was accused of being “in on it” when I defended Fino’s Pictures, even though I had met the man, and seen the original pictures.

People believe what they want to believe no matter what proofs you show them.

#27

So, I guess I should take a lesson from that story: I will urge my clients to do their own postings in service to mankind.

#28

Interesting food for though but why is it that I haven’t heard of any Electrolysis having their own pictures uploaded as proof? I mean there has got to be some hairy Electrolysis out there looking to show their work? And what better way than to do it on themselfs?

#29

THere are lots of hairy electrologists. That’s why they became electrologists because they had it done on themselves. It made them feel a hundred percent renewed and they wanted to spread the good news to others. Electrologists don’t work on themselves and if they do, they can’t finish the job. Electrolysis is technically very hard to do. It is microsurgey. We usually have a buddy system with another electrologist and take care of each others needs for free! Also, wouldn’t we be acccused of doctoring the picture if we said we got results on ourselves? So, we’re back to that argument.

How about this idea. Why don’t you go to an electrologist with a plan to do this experiment. Draw a two inch diameter circle on an inconspicuous part of your body like your upper thigh. Go for a clearance of all the hair in this circle. Go back in one month and get another clearance. Keep doing clearance’s once a month for 9-12 months, then stop. Do nothing for 6 months to a year. I guarrantee you that you will see no hair in this area. If you do, it will be one or two finer hairs. This area will remain hair-free, while the areas outside the circle will continue to grow hair.

If you need honest to God hands down proof that electrolysis works, this is the best way to find out if you have doubts or you can just trust that it does and get going.

#30

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#31

Again, there are few people who actually take Before pictures, and of those electrolysis providers who do take pictures before, During and After, it is a rare client who will offer a model’s release in order for you to be able to show anyone the pictures.

As for the electrolysis practitioners, most of them don’t have their before pictures, because the day they started treatment they were regular customers like everyone else, and wanted no one to have evidence that they ever had a problem. Later, when they become electrologists, no one believes them when they try to show their results.

Thanks to my first wife never giving me back the only picture that I know of with me having a full beard, no one ever believes that I ever had hair that covered the apples of my cheeks.

#32

There are lots of pictures here - it’s just hard to run a search for them because there is no way to enter that in a search box. I have a picture of my underarm posted. However, for the reasons that James mention, I don’t have pictures of BEFORE because most of us didn’t want proof of that at the time.

Btw, I’m at least one person who had BOTH laser and electrolysis and am 100% satisfied with BOTH. Of course, I had the appropriate method done on each area and I did my research before going to any one clinic or electrologist. We really don’t see laser failure stories here from people who did their research first. Those are all from people who haven’t done it and then find this forum when they seek an explanation.

Btw, not sure if you’re aware of this link, but we keep a running list of success stories on another forum: http://cosmeticenhancementsforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4107

#33

I really appreciate the time everyone has taken to answer my questions.

Whether I believe it or not, For my sake, I’m going to fallow through with it. I don’t want something like this to impede on some career goals I’ve had in mind. I’ll stop after 6 months of no progress. I plan to make detailed post with BEFORE pictures and progress leading to. Hopefully I can inspire others to join in on this wonderful transformation.

I’ve been doing simple math and am trying to decipher between going hourly or doing full marathon runs.

I figure 60min=180 hairs? 20sec a Hair=$80 for 60min
180 hairs X 10.5 hours = 1890 hairs.
or
$850 which is the cost of a full day marathon run.

Considering I won’t be getting my full face done, I’m curious to see if she would drop the price.

#34

60 min = 180 hairs? Please add a digit to that number. 60 min = 1180 hairs. This is much more accurate. That amount, 180 hairs per hour is ridiculous.

#35

What is she using, Blend? 180 per hour is too fast to be galvanic, but too slow to be MicroFlash Thermolysis. If that is Slow Thermolysis, then she is taking the Slow part of the title too much to heart. :wink:

But, yes, she should be willing to cut you a deal for an advanced purchase, as long as YOU are willing to schedule appointments during her less popular hours. If she doesn’t have any less popular hours, you may be out of luck.

(I once had an electrologist tell me that she would NOT take advanced payments, even if the person paid full price, because she would spend the money when she got it, and from there on, feel like she was working for free, because the person would not be paying her when they got the work done. All I can say is… Ummmm, Yeah. :confused:)

#36

Dee,it’s hard to believe that one can question electrologyst trying to be publicized and promoted himself. Those who know this world, we know that this is unnecessary. We have too much work (sometimes more than we wanted). The problem is that electrology has no major sponsors to invest millions of dollars or euros in advertising. The electrology can only be promoted with the professionals, poor and tireless workers.
If you live in another country, like Spain, would have to add many years of malpractice, so they returned to the prestigious technical electrology is mission impossible.
FranTeruel or someone like me, are two grains of sand in a vast desert. The photos are our only reference letter. Kind regards

#37

I can not conceive that an expert trying to reach just 180 hairs per hour and thus be paid $ 80. Is an excessive price and no wonder that the reputation of having electrology slow. The worst of the handicaps which it is extremely slow to do it.
Being the permanent hair removal technique that get faster results, we have to remove handicap. It is important to go faster!

#38

I just paid for 10 hours in advance and got a pretty good discount.

What method is she using? As others mentioned, you can get 5-10 hairs removed per minute on average.

#39

Lagirl, I never invest more than one second in a hair, to insert a second job. This will add two seconds for each hair. I try to group together sack hair then, so saves seconds per minute.
Never less than 20 hairs per minute. Blend, termolysis, flash = 1 seconds in total for each hair.

#40

That could be the case for some hairs, but I don’t think the estimate would be correct since some hairs take more than one zap sometimes, you need some time to dig out some ingrowns, etc. So on average, I say 5-10 hairs per minute.