What I've learned the hard way...

One of the main problems with wanting to have permanent hair removal done is that it is expensive. Because of this, we try a multitude of things to try and get ourselves to the pristine condition of attractive hairlessness that we so desire. Unfortunately for us, there are a lot of people out there that realize that we women - and some men - will endure a lot of expense, discomfort and frustration to achieve these ends.

The main problem here is that a lot of these people have absolutely no scruples when it comes to seperating us from our money. Sometimes they can offer us products that can either make our condition worse or even cause us physical harm. Most times, fortunately for us, the products that they so attractively advertise do little more than seperate us from our hard-earned cash. I remember and uncle of mine, an avid fisherman, who used to tell me that most fishing lures were designed to catch the fisherman - not the fish! This is also very true with permanent hair removal.

Creams and growth inhibitors:
My experience with them was a total wash out. Some of them were very irritating to the skin and completely ineffective as far as any type of hair reduction, temporary, permanent or otherwise. Some of these items advertised “anti-androgen formulations” or other such nonsense. The problem here is that for any kind of OTC preparations, the concentrations of any known drugs have to be so low as to be completely useless.

Another limitation with these preparations is that unless they can get to the regenerative tissues at the papilla and bulge of the follicles, there is absolutely no way that they can possibly be effective. Each hair is associated with a sebacous gland that secretes sebum, an oily substance, into the the upper portion of the follicle. Sebum succeeds in protecting the tissues from bacteria and the like by constantly exuding this substance out of the hair follicles and onto the cuticle of the skin. In short, these compounds have a snowball’s chance of getting anywhere near where they would need to be in order to be effective.

Note: I am not addressing the OTC depilatories here. They do not advertise that they effect “permanent hair removal” but offer an alternative to shaving. My experience with these products is that they do work as advertised. However, I sometimes have adverse reactions to them. I have friends who use them frequently with no problems. We’re all different.

Microlysis:

This sounds good in theory and Global Electrolysis spends a lot of time and money advertising these “large areas in a single treatment” machines - along with the patches and topically applied chemicals (weak solutions of lye and silver nitrate) to those who believe that this would be the ultimate and easy way to “effective, painless permanent hair removal”. Sounds too good to be true? It is! The same limitations that prevent creams from working (sebum-filled hair follicles) prevent the chemical agents from reaching the lower levels of the follicles and destroying the regenerative tissues of the hairs in the “treatment” areas.

Microlysis is an alternative application of an important modality in electrolysis, i.e. cataphoresis. I use cataphoresis as an after treatment whenever I do a blend treatment. What cataphoresis does is use the anode of the galvanic current to drive positively charged ions into the follicles that have been treated, neutralizing the lye that was formed by the galvanic portion of the blend, creating an unfavorable growth environment for bacteria and firming up the surrounding tissues. The important distinction here is that the treatment is being used on areas where the hair follicles have been removed, allowing the migration of these ions to reach the lower levels of the treated follicles. This not done to remove hairs, but to speed healing and reduce the likelihood of post treatment infections.

Do It Yourself Epilators:

Again, we have something that sounds good in theory, but falls way short of the mark. Unless you are an expert at making proper insertions and progressive epilation you will not have good results with them and will experience a lot of discomfort as well.

I’m not saying they are not capable of working, they do if used properly. However, as they do not have any sort of calibrated level settings, of any real value when it comes to current flow, you have absolutely no idea of how many units of lye you are producing, or with the thermolysis units, the amount of AC current the machine is supplying. There are definate amounts, in terms of units of lye that are required to remove hairs, depending on hair thickness and depth - or the level of high frequency that will accomplish the same task. Without an accurately calibrated measurement system, and the ability to make fine adjustments in these levels, there is no way that the average DYI will be successful with these machines.

Again, all I can do is suggest that anyone who desires to “do it yourself” should buy one of the text books, learn what electrology is all about, and then go out and buy a professional epilator from a reliable dealer. It would also be a good idea to purchase a good binocular magnifier and a good, easily positionable light source. It is also necessary to learn how to make proper insertions. This takes a lot of time and practice with informed coaching.

Even then, I would not suggest that anyone try to work areas like their own face and I know from experience that working in areas that require the use of a mirror becomes slow, awkward and generally frustrating.

Hope this helps!
Joanie

Again, all I can do is suggest that anyone who desires to “do it yourself” should buy one of the text books, learn what electrology is all about, and then go out and buy a professional epilator from a reliable dealer. It would also be a good idea to purchase a good binocular magnifier and a good, easily positionable light source. It is also necessary to learn how to make proper insertions. This takes a lot of time and practice with informed coaching.

Right. Joanie brings up the point of magnification. Magnification is as big a factor as the machine itself. Of course knowledge and practiced skill are paramount. To get an idea of how important magnification is to the DIY’er, think that a $30 - $40 dollar pair of 2x single lens loupes have only a working distance of about eight inches or less. Now, go get a pencil about eight inches long. Position it poking from your forehead, and now see how many areas on your body you can touch with it, AND get a good view of surface skin at a reasonable angle. Not too many areas. Things are improved with binocular magnifiers, but these run a couple hundred dollars. Just keep it in mind.

Mantaray

Maybe I’m not the average DIY, but your statement “Without an accurately calibrated measurement system, and the ability to make fine adjustments in these levels, there is no way that the average DYI will be successful with these machines” seems unwarranted to me.

Even the cheapest effective device, the One Touch, provides a range of 0 to 10K ohms at all resistances in between and tick marks at each 1K ohms for a guide, which for me was a fine enough adjustment. The problem with trying to set anything more accurately is that the hairs vary so much. One hair that may have been perfectly treated at 5.0 and 30 seconds may be way off for the adjacent hair that looks and feels exactly the same.

A big advantage of a DIYer is the immediate feedback from feeling the pain. If there is no pain during treatment, chances are you’ve got a good insertion. If it starts to give a little burn before the expected time needed, you can stop sooner as this hair has probably already met it’s limit needed for treatment. It’s almost impossible to know what should have been the correct setting beforehand and so a fine calibration does one little good.

I’ve had no informed coaching and read no textbooks, yet I’ve worked with a wall mirror to successfully remove all of my arm pit hair; not at all frustrating, but it does take a fair amount of time. Yet, just a few hours a week over a nine month period was all it took, so not a huge sacrifice.

So for those that can’t find or afford professional treatment, there are solutions if one has the ability to develop the necessary skills. This is what I’ve learned the hard way, but everyone’s experience will be different.

From what I’m reading in the posts, you are definately the average DIY. I am also not saying that it is not possible to to get good results from one of the lower end machines. I cleared several areas myself with one of the machines that are a point of contention in these posts. My main point here was that most will become discouraged with the low end epilators.

As far as the recommendation that a person buy a professional epilator from a reliable dealer. I did not indicate that they do so from one of the OEM’s. I’ve read through many posts from others where they indicate that these types of machines are available for about the same cost as one of the low-end new machines. This will frequently allow the use of thermolysis. I highly recommend that a person be well informed about electrolysis prior to beginning self treatment with this modality. Even the older machines are capable of damage in short ordser with this.

BTW. For many people the informed coaching can be as little as reading the chapter(s) in a textbook on how to make a proper insertion. It can also be very helpful to read up on probe types and sizes prior to working some areas.

Like you also stated:

This is what I’ve learned the hard way, but everyone’s experience will be different.

Not all people are as tolerent to treatment as you are. Some people with moist, sensitive skin and deep, thick hairs can suffer damage very easily. These are the people that need to be really careful. They especially need to read up on the post treatment problems that they are more likely to encounter. Better well informed than injured.

I congratulate you on your dedication and patience and it is not my intention to discourage anyone from doing work on themselves. I just think that there are a lot of options out there - better than the $200 machines that are so commonly advertised.

All the best,
Joanie

I am a 23 year old transgendered male and have been struggling with facial hair and concealing it. I am waiting to go full time until my beard is cleared up. About three months ago I bought a Hinkel uc-2 blend machine on E-bay. By far this has been the smartest step in my transition. It does take plenty of practice but now that I have mastered it I have made tremendous progress with my beard removal. In addition I am seeing a pro three hours a week to work on the areas that are hard for me to get to. I would recommend this to anyone with good hand eye coordination and patience. It would also be a good starting step to get or make a galvanic machine to practice with and to test their patience. However with the pro machine the fast results are well worth it and the machine has easily paid for itself three or four times over. Also I would recommend that anyone interested get a textbook and learn about growth cycles etc.