Hi All,
I just wanted to ask if anyone had feedback on the verseo e glide. I know its new technology, but could it work? has anyone tried it?
Your feedback would be much appreciated!
I wonder how many hair removal scams exist in the world? It seems hundreds….
Scams you say?
Yes, many hundreds … some even advertising on this website!
It seems, however, that the “electronic tweezers,” or ETs as we called them, are nearly dead. But what a story, and so many thousands of people defrauded of millions of dollars (Europe and America). Lots of us were there at the time; me too.
The “Depilatron” story could easily be a pulp-fiction cheap novel with odd twists and turns all over the place. I assisted the cops and wore a “wire” at the Beverly Hills office. The folks got “busted.” Somehow there was a “mafia link” and a murder. WAY too much story for a Hairtell post.
A memorable moment was when I took one of the women involved to a fancy restaurant. She got drunk, picked up her pork chop and waved it in the air as she declared, “the end of electrolysis is coming.” She called us “needle Nazis.”
Actually, it ended up being the “end” of her. What a bunch of CRAZY. When I look back on all of it, the folks I still resent are the State boards! Reading their “rulings” illustrates how totally off target they can be. Crooks will always be crooks, but the government is supposed to do the right thing and protect us … they did NOT!
Amazing years … and always a big THANKS to Fino Gior! Fino? Now THAT is an electrology God!
I second the motion!
Fino Gior is much better than any electrolysis Big Wig.
Ok, so I am getting the impression that tgis could be a scam but has any of you tried it?? James do you try products like these? I mean if its new technology that did work and it was endorsed by someone like yourself it would be believable that it works. I absolutely respect all your opinions, but if you dismiss something without trying it or any feedback it makes it hard for people to know what works…
specially when people write indirect answers which vaguely answer a question. Relating to pulp fiction and needle nazis. I know a revelutionary product will directly effect the hair removal industry one day. But I find it quiet frustrating you immediately coming on here and dismissing products without trying them. You call it a scam and I dont buy it upon your recommendation, which I value.
I’ve read reviews on-line. 99% of them negative.
If you understand the history of hair removal frauds you will understand our reluctance to “get excited” when any new product is introduced. My discussion of the electronic tweezers had nothing to do with your specific product, but was an attempt to put some of this in prospective. I was answering ekade’s question about “hundreds of scams?” Being a former history teacher, I always look at everything in a historical way … what seems “new” probably isn’t, if you’ll take the time to look back.
Besides, why should a busy electrologist like James spend his time experimenting with “any and all” products that some marketing guys come up with? Have you any idea what a real experiment would entail? The electronic tweezers had all sorts of physicians that were supposed to have done research into the product’s efficacy … it was still a fraud.
First, you have to understand the biology of hairs and then what must be done to eradicate a follicle: it’s no easy task! Let me repeat: it’s no easy task. An inexpensive product that promises quick permanent results? The experts can offer an opinion, but that’s about all.
There are those that insist a simple diet change, or some magic seed will cure cancer. They also allege that the medical “cancer industry” suppresses these cures because they make so much money from cancer treatment. (Sure, diet to stay healthy and avoid cancer; but once you have it, you had better get real medical treatment.)
James’ (and my) “immediate dismissal of this product” comes from YEARS of seeing endless frauds being foisted on the public. Let me tell you this: if a really “revolutionary product” is found for permanently removing hair, it will be written up in medical journals … not in some slick advertising on the internet or the back of some magazine.
Okay Natalie … I just had a look at the “eGlide” on-line ads. This is another adaptation of the ET (electronic tweezers) that is a total 100% waste of time and money. (This never will stop, will it? Thirty-seven years of ET and “counting!”)
But here’s why they produce such products. The price is important: just cheap enough so that you won’t send the thing back in a year or so.
You buy the thing and try it a few times. (They tell you it will take a few months to see results.) You try and you eventually are disappointed. However after nearly a year, you have now (usually) lost the return address and even your receipt. Of course, you have to package the thing (you lost the original packaging), mail it in and (sometimes) pay a restocking fee. The $89 is just not worth the inconvenience … so you just forget about it.
Consider that if only half of the customers don’t return the item, the company still makes a BIG profit. These simple “made in China” battery-things are CHEAP to make … a few dollars at most. Selling ten thousand of these things yields almost a million dollars! And, that why this will never stop.
Again, these frauds are carefully thought out. Not for effectiveness, but for profit. My clients used to bring in their little “revolutionary” products: I had a full drawer of the things. And, the sucker keep coming!
Great thanks for your response Michael, you are someone with lots of knowledge in this field and I am just a novice looking into products like this. I honestly thought the laws were a bit more regulated for companies to make such outrageous claims and even to advertise products on tv, with no proof that the product works.
I could advertise that I have invented a t shirt which helps people lose weight and when it doesnt, i wouldnt be subject to any legal ramifications…
Absolutely crazy to think the goverments around the world dont regulate such dodgy products. I saw the add for the eglide on tv!!!
So frustrating! Anyway thanks for your response much appreciated. It just saved me money, time and dissapointment.
It’s interesting what happened to the FDA over the last 30 years: they got stripped of most of their powers. The political “hits” came from BOTH the Right and the Left!
The free-marketing Republicans (Reagan and the Fed under Greenspan), gutted may laws to encourage business success. Meanwhile, the Left, because of the AIDS pandemic and the demand to get new drugs faster, also helped remove the safeguards we used to have. AIDS demanded new drugs before the years of testing usually needed.
I worked with a couple companies and you would be in total shock to see how easy it is to get a “cosmetic” product to market: it’s virtually nothing! Many of the devices you find in esthetician’s offices were “invented” by the marketing boys. The “clinical data” is often just as fake as the product.
Some of the “backbone” units used are pure “fluff, e.g., the micro-dermabrasion units. Yes, standard in the industry, but do little more than what could be accomplished with a $1 washcloth or loofah. (These things are only supposed to remove the outer dead skin layer.)
I suppose there is no financial reward for people that are “whistle blowers” or that expose fraud. I’m half done with a book for the consumer on hair removal … this is going to be finished and part of a new website that should be beneficial. The serialized book will be a free download.
The 1910-1930s were called the “Golden Age of Quackery.” Today, with the internet, this is the “Platinum Age of Quackery!" (My use of platinum does NOT refer to the Dectro unit.)
THANK GOODNESS FOR straight shooters like you Michael !!
I very much look forward to your book and the website, as we really need to get the real information out there ! In the end the facts will help us all , both practitioners and consumers alike…bring it on!
and then you read articles like this that make you wonder, is it new technology???
http://www.beautyandfashiontech.com/2011/03/verseo-eglide-review.html
mixed feelings abouy this product??
NOT new technology. OLD FRAUD!
DC galvanic current will not “select out” the follicle.
Talk to the most basic electrician and he will tell you.
Or just buy a simple DC battery and do the EXACT SAME THING yourself!
Or, buy the thing and find out yourself. But you were warned.
(Gee whiz, you really think everything you read is the truth? Hummm. I have a bridge for you to buy in NYC!)
If I sound impatient, it’s because I AM!
I doubt that a thing for $90 will give you whole body permanent hair removal. There was a discussion about Selectif Pro. It cost from $5,000 to $6,800 on ebay. And who knows whether it really works even for such money?!
Haha, ok fair point Michael. I am actually someone thats does believe alot of what I read or see on tv, when its presented as fact. They are quiet cunning the way they present the product…
But ok noted!
Yes, thanks Natalie. Can you imagine how those of us who have been in the field since “the dawn of time” feel about these FRAUDS? My very first year of practice saw the introduction of the Depilatron (the first ET). We fought it … sort of won … then the thing came back over and over: sort of like those damned REGROWTH hairs on you chin.
I suppose as long as there are crooks and “suckers” these things will continue on forever. Amazingly, the first ET device cost $12,000 back in 1975! I suppose it’s nice to see them costing only $89 … but not even worth that price.
As far as FDA? They are really only concerned when a few “dead bodies” start showing up. I can imagine how dermatologists feel. After all these years of FDA findings and their organization clearly stating that “tanning beds” cause skin cancer? Well, these keep going on and on too. In some way the public is poorly served because they assume the FDA is protecting them. If there were no FDA, maybe people would be more careful.
These is a “Geheimness” fellow on Hairtell who uses this logic when describing how people assume licensed and certified electrologists are excellent … when they may not be at all; they could be terrible! Actually, he DOES have a valid point (but I hate admitting it!). Point: customers must be pro-active.
Sometimes I think we need a good (benevolent) dictator!
Damn, I made a few typos … sorry!
Michael, what do you think about Selectif Pro Applisonix? Another ET for $5,000-$7,000?
Key words from their own advertising:
“Painless.” If it’s actually no-feeling painless, it’s, as Hinkel said, “a painless treatment is a worthless treatment.” If you cannot feel the current at all … “nothing at all” is exactly what’s happening.
“Sound waves travel down the hair shaft and does NOT affect the surrounding tissue,” This is the clincher for me, because it IS the surrounding tissue that is the follicle and that “surrounding tissue” grows the hair. Were it the “hair shaft” that needs to be destroyed, simple tweezing would work.
Seriously … there needs to be an FDA for “non-lethal” cosmetic products that separate women from their MONEY and yield no results. Women are the continual targets for these types of frauds and they need to get angry … I’m angry, why aren’t women’s groups angry? Let’s get all the “pampered women” marching on the streets … maybe have Kim Kardashian leading the demonstration? (I WILL be there with my camera!)
A document needs to be prepared that outlines what needs to be accomplished to permanently remove hair … not argue about this and that new scam. Once you understand what needs to be done, you can decide yourself if the technology would work.
(Oh, by the way, ultra-sound units were already produced in the 1950s (they used a needle so there could have been some chance of working.) … Ultra-sound new? Well, no.
I’m waiting for the faradic “weight loss” frauds to come roaring back … it’s about time (again). These were devised in the 1920s and reappear every 10 years or so … go out of business (mad clients), but always seem to reappear again. Something like Brigadoon.
Kim Kardashian is advertising Tria laser hair removal home system herself!
Wow! Had been produced in the 1950s and used needle? Unfortunately, only a few people know about it!
If it did not work with needles, of course, there is no chance it will work without needles!
BTW, the most detailed list hair-removal scams.
Thanks Andrea!