Does anyone have any experience with the Vector home electroysis unit?
Please use the search feature here on hairtell and go to www.hairfacts.com and search for electric tweezers.
I’ll give you a little hint about this product in one word: scamscamscamscamscamscamscamscamscamscamscamscamscam.
I mean really, when is the FTC or FDA going to put a stake through the heart of these bloodsucker companies that keep finding loopholes to sell this worthless s#!^. We’re talking like $200 here for something that is scientifically useless for permanent hair removal.
Good to know. What is your source of this conviction?
Dee works for a Vector competitor.
Seriously, Vector does make a galvanic machine that supposedly works. However, it’s wildly overpriced. Something like $250.
As dfahey noted, the Vector device is a scam to avoid.
Right you are. Global Electrolysis Supply makes a “V2R” that’s an overpriced galvanic machine.
you can use the vector with a regula sterex probe - banana fit
it works ok - the twezzers are just an added extra
Just keep in mind that since the Vector/Global junk is made by people who expect that you will try it once, and give up, they don’t make them to last.
You are best off getting a real machine, a real text book, an electrolysis trade partner and maybe even some hands on instruction from someone who knows.
I have an Apilus SM-500 and have studied the subject
i just wanted to point out that the vectors only downside was the tweezer argument - this is nullified when this unit is used with a sterex probe - i have tested it - and as a new item is no more or less reliable then any other technology really. When used in this way It certainly better and more versatile than the one touch - it doesn’t need batteries for a start so is always running at the same power - and a pro handset can take different needles.
Just a suggestion for those who want to step up from the one touch but can’t afford to buy a pro level machine. The global Electrolysis people do not in my knowledge have retailers they flog cr*p online but vector do at least have retailers who will take back machines and sell spares. I think in all fairness the tweezer argument is clouding the issue of a potentially cheap unit.
Plus if you live in the UK like me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> the dollar is half the value of the UK pound <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> so all US kit is half price - buy a US-UK Transformer though else it will blow up hehehe
There’s also the issue of supporting a company that uses deceptive sales practices to scam people with the “painless and permanent” claims they make about the tweezer apparatus.
I have done a search on the vector and they do actually mention using a needle but they suggest needing a licence or something
search for this in inverted commas
“Professionals can use the Vector System with a traditional electrolysis needle in place of the galvanic tweezers. Operating the Vector System with a needle requires a license.”
[color:“red”]press any cached google links to find the info[/color]
this is what first led me to trying this out
I do not know US law - but I get the feeling that they may have liked to have sold this with a needle but perhaps that would make it a ‘medical item’ or something - again i don’t know how your system works :.
How to use the vector successfully
So you bought the vector - you tried it and said - bloody con - it doesn’t work - or the gel and the amount of hair to be removed just means after the initial excitement you feel low and just wanna cry - we have all been there <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Well a lot of people talk the talk and use third party conversations to argue the rights an wrongs of equipment - but i at least am showing that it can be easily adapted to a more reliable and easier to use item
Just so you know i am genuine i have photographed it next to my apilus - well i could be telling stories otherwise
the fit is a standard banana plug - this is easily available on sterex handsets - if you get a switched handset shown it means you don’t need the foot pedal - many vectors are not sold with the foot pedals - so this is a great way to get a switched vector relatively cheaply - if you have the pedal then you can save on the sterex handset.
you can buy banana fit handsets everywhere - but you may already have something or see a handset cheap on ebay - well you can simply buy the plug from radio shack or maplin (uk) banana plug - cut the off the one on the handset cable and re wire the end - 2 second job.
as you can see from the images it does fit as it comes and turns a pain into a practical permanent device - try it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
not more tears x
Although I commend you on your advise for people who have been scammed, we should make sure people understand, that for the amount they paid for their vector unit, and the modifications, they could have gotten a real pro machine.
Just so no one takes your information as an endorsement of the shoddy merchandise in question. After all, even if you make these modifications, the equipment at the heart of the metal box is poorly made, and prone to falling apart with little provocation.
just to be fair i am not endorsing the vector anymore than my apilus
but i appear to be the only person here who actually has one and has tested it properly
it requires no modifications other than pluging in a stylus and the manufacturer says this is ok
i think this whole vector issue has got lost in translation and compared with the one touch is a pro machine <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
i am pretty sure if i said to someone would you swap this vector and handset for your one touch they would chop my hand off <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
either way I am not fussed - but at least I have academically tested this item - i live in the uk and even had to buy a transformer to do this 110-220v we are different - the vector is not sold in the UK but cost is not an issue in this instance
i think often there is this great mystique about electrolysis its the simplest science on earth in reality with very little power necessary so the internal working of even a tuppany happ’ny one touch can do it then i guess in the end its a case of you pays yer money and so on <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Thank you for posting, sparx!
If your throw away the gel and patches and all that nonsense and use the needle probe exclusively, you can make the $200 device as useful as a $30 One Touch.
The problem is that most consumers buy a Vector BECAUSE of the gels and patches and all that nonsense about being painless and permanent. I’d rather not see consumers support that kind of bogus marketing by supporting their products.
The only advantage over the one Touch is that you can use better needles with the Vector, but others here have described the mod for using pro needles with a ONe Touch.
don’t forget it is mains powered too and it does have a foot pedal as well - just a thought <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
i would prefer to plug in a standard handset into the vector than risk scarring myself or someone else by butchering a one touch thats for sure =)
but hey each to their own <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
hey I am thinking of taking your route. Just few questions:)
When used with foot pedal and needle is Vector Galvanic? Blend? or termolysis?
Does tha patch on the skin works just like touching salty water with your fingers?
one other thing
is conductive gel needed with needle made vector electrolysis?
its pretty basic just a DC current needle and the patch is the return although a good mod is to use a Velcro strap and a sponge dipped in salt-water to save on patches
as long as you can create a ground
but the patches are not made by vector so you can buy these from ab belt companies and its just a crocodile clip arrangement
I just think people modding a 30 buck + costs of extras one touch is madness really cos after doing all that you cannot be certain its not going to harm you - at least the vector has to be built to a standard of US safety - plus you can always re sell it as it has new sterile needles - who in their right mind would buy a second hand one touch <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
i have responded to your PM re needle handsets etc
the gel is not made by vector and is not necessary if you are using the needle handset other than to improve the electrode contact back on your skin when the patches wear out a bit
and conductive gel will do - especially heart monitor stuff ab belt stuff - that contains silver is best
or something similar is fine - again this is not necessary as you will be using a needle