Can anyone help me here. Why can men not use Vaniqa? (Just setting out! G.)
</font><blockquote><font size=“1” face=“Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif”>quote:</font><hr /><font size=“2” face=“Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif”>Originally posted by Graeme:
<strong>Can anyone help me here. Why can men not use Vaniqa? (Just setting out! G.)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size=“2” face=“Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif”>Hi Graeme–
Vaniqa hasn’t been tested on men in any of the studies they have submitted to the US Food and Drug administration. Male facial hair growth is driven by much higher levels of androgens than most women have. That means that men probably wouldn’t find it to be quite as effective. Because they have not tested it on men, there is no available data on whether or not it effects men differently-- no established success rates or rates of complications.
It also hasn’t been tested on large areas (just the chin). In larger doses, there might be additional side effects from absorbing large amounts.
If you are considering Vaniqa, you might ask your physician about it. She or he may have additional insights. Many physicians will prescribe drugs for “off-label” use if they have reason to believe a patient may benefit. For instance, some doctors will write women prescriptions for the impotence drug Viagra, even though it has not been thoroughly tested on women.
Please check back after you’ve decided on a method and let us know your progress!
Take care,
Andrea
</font><blockquote><font size=“1” face=“Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif”>quote:</font><hr /><font size=“2” face=“Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif”>Originally posted by Andrea:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size=“1” face=“Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif”>quote:</font><hr /><font size=“2” face=“Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif”>Originally posted by Graeme:
<strong>Can anyone help me here. Why can men not use Vaniqa? (Just setting out! G.)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size=“2” face=“Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif”>Hi Graeme–
Vaniqa hasn’t been tested on men in any of the studies they have submitted to the US Food and Drug administration. Male facial hair growth is driven by much higher levels of androgens than most women have. That means that men probably wouldn’t find it to be quite as effective. Because they have not tested it on men, there is no available data on whether or not it effects men differently-- no established success rates or rates of complications.
It also hasn’t been tested on large areas (just the chin). In larger doses, there might be additional side effects from absorbing large amounts.
If you are considering Vaniqa, you might ask your physician about it. She or he may have additional insights. Many physicians will prescribe drugs for “off-label” use if they have reason to believe a patient may benefit. For instance, some doctors will write women prescriptions for the impotence drug Viagra, even though it has not been thoroughly tested on women.
Please check back after you’ve decided on a method and let us know your progress!
Take care,
Andrea</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size=“2” face=“Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif”>
Hi! I have used vaniqua on and off for 1.5 years… I have a love hate relationship with it… It does work…hair growth is reduced… however as soon as you stop within 2 weeks it is back to normal… also it changes your hair… it makes it tough, and hard to deal with… when plucking it breaks instead of pulling out… I quit using it because it caused so many ingrowns… It really does work… my hairs grew much slower, but they became different, tougher, brittel, and made a mess out of my face so I quit… your milage may vary…
Hugs,
Metria
why did u have to pluck them? i know vaniqa makes the hair less noticeable.
quaterman, Vaniqa requires you to continue your current method(s) of hair removal while you use the product.
andrea but i read that the removal is required untill the desired results are achieved and then you just have to keep apply it.
Vaniqa can inhibit hair growth, but it probably will not completely eliminate growth. That’s why they recommend supplementing it with your regular hair removal method.
As I have mentioned before, it has not been tested on men and may not be as effective for them.
i tried few samples of vanisha (which works in a similar way vaniqa does) and it works. but i thought it would keep my hair fine if i keep applying it. so basicly(if vanisha does work like vaniqa) if i wont remove the hair will it grow back to normal eventually or there will be a diffrence?
Vanisha does not work like Vaniqa.
Vanisha does not have the active ingredient from Vaniqa (eflornithine hydrochloride).
Vanisha does not have published clinical data to back up its claims.
There is no way to know what Vanisha does or does not do because they haven’t tested it under controlled clinical conditions. The impression that it works could be a pacebo effect or a surface effect caused by a caustic ingredient that dissolves hair abocve the skin’s surface.
Consumers should avoid herbal preparations Vanisha until there is some proof of their claims and a body of evidence showing the stuff does what they say it can do.
[ June 02, 2002, 10:57 AM: Message edited by: Andrea ]
ok ok i got it.
so ill ask it diffrently: if some1 uses vaniqa and does not remove the hair will be any diffrence or the hair will grow back to normal? thats what i want to know
You do not have to epilate to get the effect from Vaniqa. You can shave or trim hairs, and Vaniqa will have the same effect. It’s just that pulling out the hair by the root means it’s no longer visible just under the skin as it often is with shaving.
There have not been studies to determine if Vaniqa works better or not if the hair is not plucked.
Remember, some consumer have had good luck with Vaniqa, but it doesn not work for everyone. Unfortunately, they don’t know why. Vaniqa has also only been tested on the chin and upper lip in women so use by men and/or on other areas is not proven to have the same effect.
Andrea, 1st i wanna thank you for answering to the questions i post its really important to me.
anyway, what im asking is this: if some1 choose only to apply vaniqa and not to keep plucking or shave it will the hair eventually grow to normal or it will stay finer somewhat thats what i want to know.
I’m always happy to answer questions. I know this is all complicated.
You would not be able to tell as quickly if you were seeing results or not if you did nothing but apply Vaniqa.
It usually takes about 8 weeks to tell if Vaniqa works or not (remember, it only worked for 58% of women in one study).
So, Vaniqa alone with no shaving or plucking might still cause hair inhibition, but there are no established success rates for men, there are no established success rates for consumers who do nothing but apply the cream.
In other words, you could try it, but there’s really no way to tell what it’s going to do for you. You would be paying to be a guinea pig, with no guarantee of results.
The reason I plucked is because Although Vaniqua did slow the hair growth, it did not stop it. Where as before I had noticable growth after 8-10 hours, with Vaniqua it was 24-48 hours. The problem was that I started having numerous ingrowns and the blemishes were worse than the solution. I plucked to keep away the few dark hairs I have that show under the skin. (most are gray and don’t show.) However rather than make my hair finer, it seemed to make it very brittle, so that it snapped off during plucking rather than coming out. I think this brittleness is what caused all the ingrowns. I no longer use the stuff as I said the belimishes it caused from ingrown (pimples) was worse than the slowing down of the hair growth. Does that help?
Hugs,
Metria
i actually just want to reduce the hair, make it grow finer and lighter in color, i thought vaniqa
could do this theres no other option for me left…
oh and another thing: after using vaniqa and shaving for a long period are the roots still noticeable?
PS… The ingrowns were not caused by plucking alone… these were areas that I did not pluck. I continue to pluck the dark hairs, and have no more problems with ingrowns since I quit using Vaniqua.
For me the dark hairs remained dark and noticable, the light hairs never were, I never saw a change in hair color with Vaniqua, just hair structure (brittle). The only other difference I saw was a slow down in the growth rate.
About one year ago, I did a six-month study of Vaniqa on myself. Not wanting to fool myself, I used it on the right side of my face only. After six months, I could tell no difference between the two sides of my face. sigh
Thanks for the report, Jade, and sorry it didn’t work.
For some reason, Vaniqa doesn’t always work. Researchers have yet to determine why.
Hair growth remains quite a mystery, despite its deceptively simple appearance.