Upper Lip Hair - Please Help

Hello,

I’ve been wondering if i should get my upper lip hair removed for years. But my best friend said that I’ll just get a stubble if i cut it. So i’ve never touched any part of my upper lip hair. Upon stumbling across this fantastic forum and reading some of the success stories, I’ve had hope again!

This is what my upper lip hair looks like:


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It’s actually quite fine but high density. You can’t see it at night but it’s obvious under the sun.

I’d like to get some professional opinion:

  1. Should i get it removed?

  2. Can it be removed?

  3. Which method would be best for this kind of hair removal? ie bleaching laser or electrolysis

  4. How long would it take?

  5. Is there anything i should do to make it more successful. I heard that applying tea tree oil helps the healing process.

  6. Haha and last of all does anyone know of a good place in Sydney?

If i get it removed, i will contribute my photos and progress to this forum :slight_smile:

Thank you very much!

Emma

Yes, you should get it removed if it bothers you. I would do electrolysis. You can try one thing for now and see if it makes a difference for the immediate now - you can bleach those fine hairs.

Electrolysis will work. I would personally do a thermolysis mode called PicoFlash. Another electrologist may have another strategy. Laser is NOT an option for your fine hairs.

How longs depends on you and your electrologist’s skill and strategy. You can accomplish permanent hair removal in about a year to eighteen months. You would be surprised how few total hours it takes to accomplish this over the the 9-18 month period.

Tea tree is very nice, but your electrologist will have to advise you because she can assess many things about your skin to see if that is appropriate for your situation.

I LOVE CASES LIKE YOURS, by the way!

Sydney Electrologists:

I do believe Christine O’Connell is a good start. Check out her posts her on hairtell by using the search feature.

Clinical Electrolysis

Phone:(02) 9231 1903

Suite 2, Level 5,

William Bland Centre,

229 Macquarie Street,

Sydney, NSW Australia

(opposite the Sydney Hospital)

View Website: http://www.clinicalelectrolysis.com/index.html

Sahar Tehfe. I am looking for her information.

Both have Apilus Platinum epilators!

Here is Sahar’s website:

http://www.stgeorgeelectrolysis.com.au/

Thank you Dee! Do you know how long approximately one session will be for a case like mine?

Most electrologist will only do 15 to 30 minutes on and upper, scattering their works so as to not treat hairs that are side by side. With the set up they may have, they are correct to use caution. I use the Apilus Platinum and before that, I used the Silhouette-Tone VMC. With both epilators, typically, I would clear all the hair on both sides and thin the hairs in the middle, with a gold or insulated probe. Side effect would be swelling for 24 or 36 hours, but not severe swelling. Doing 45 minutes to an hour at a time bothers me not. It is fine with the proper equipment and settings on the LIP PROGRAM. Christine and Sahar have Apilus Platinum Pure epilators, but I don’t know what their strategies are for cases like yours. All I can say is, it is highly possible to do longer appointments to get the hair off ASAP and then look forward to maintaining that gain. I favor PicoFlash thermolysis. MultiPlex is very strategic as well.

By the way, I really, really hope you keep a journal here about your progress. It is so helpful to others who come seeking help after you. I look at your case and think of low hurdles to overcome. This is not a difficult case at all.

Electrolysis will remove the hairs, for sure.

The “other” alternatives you can start with are bleaching. Bleaching would hide the hair you have very well. If you were to begin electrolysis then you would schedule your appointment at the point that you start seeing the dark roots of the hairs.

Shaving (cutting or clipping) would result in YOU feeling stubble, but it would not make the hairs coarser - and no one else would feel that stubble. The will only get coarser if your physiology (genetics, hormones, etc.) intended to make the hairs coarser (with no help from shaving). Shaving can work while having electrolysis because the electrologist can then select the growing hairs for treatment rather than treating hairs that are getting ready to shed.

Wishing you the best!

Hi All,

So after gathering up my courage, i’ve finally put my hectic life schedule on hold and booked in for a consultation with Christine.

Will keep you all updated on how it goes.

Give her hug from me. Take some before pictures!

Good luck! Forget about the pain (that is a sensitive area) you’ll be hair free in no time! :slight_smile:

Met Christine today and she was very lovely. I did a 15 min session on the corners of my lip to test if there would be any side effects. She said that the roots of my hairs were very shallow and since i have not touched them previously, it was very unlikely that they would come back apart from the occassional few (which could be touched on in approx 2 months). Shaving wasn’t a requirement since she said that recent studies show that electrolysis is effective even if the hair is not in the growth period. That’s great for me cause i’m a bit jittery at the thought of shaving.

Since i am hoping for a full clearance, I’m planning to go back soon to start on the middle section of my lip. I was advised that i should go back between 1-8weeks for another appointment (15mins) and should take about 3 sessions for full clearance. I’ve been reading a couple of articles on hairtell and they seem to be mostly weekly or bi-weekly appointments so i’ve booked a session for next week. Christine is very flexible which is great for my schedule but leaves me slightly confused since i was expecting to follow a strict process/timeline.

Pain tolerance: Not that bad. Just had my wisdom tooth out recently so i found it very mild in comparison. I do recommend maybe taking a pair of sunnies into the room since the lights can be a bit bright

Christine was very skilled and i felt no pulling sensation. Only a pinprick and the zap.

Cost: $50 for 15mins

After-care: I was recommended to use aloe gel after the session. For fellow australian - you can find this for around $12 in priceline or local chemist. i also bought tea tree oil and a gentle foaming cleanser after reading the advice of other patients.

Looks great at the moment and swelling have gone down (it is now 8hrs after the session but swelling went down in about 1hr). I’m so glad i took the first step and THANK YOU all for the advice and tips i’ve gotten from this amazing forum!

Will keep you updated on my progress and all question and recommendations are very welcome! Photos to come shortly

When is it recommended to use tea tree and when aloe vera? Or do we apply both?

While you can use them at any time, the scent issue with Tea Tree Oil makes it something best socially suited for use when applied at bed time. Aloe Vera may be used at any time during the day, as often as one chooses.

While they may be used together, one would apply the Tea Tree Oil first, and the Aloe Vera second. Do Not Pre-Mix them, as they will react together inside the bottle, and lower the effectiveness of the combination.

I usually apply both at the end of a treatment, and again at bed time, and Aloe Vera Gel in the morning before work or school.

I would suggest that you either use aloe straight from a plant, or get a bottle of aloe gel or juice that must be refrigerated after opening. that is the real stuff.

I would stay away from tea tree oil. I feel it does more harm than good. It’s really drying and you do not want to dry out your upper lip skin whilst you are having electrolysis. So what if you get a few whiteheads? They will be gone in a few days.

But they can be avoided - I’m sure Christine cleans your skin throughly before starting. Keeping it clean with liquid soap and water, later and immediately after treatment and applying some aloe should be enough.

Even after our hours and hours of facial treatment, all Josefa did was clean it with soap and water on a cotton pad. Before bed, the washing was repeated and we applied some iodine as a protective layer, because of the amount of work that was done. Barely any whiteheads the next day, which is impressive given the number of follicles that were treated.

See my sister’s diary linked in my signature to give you an idea of doing extended sessions with less frequency.

I almost always apply lavender tea tree oil and then aloe vera gel, cold out of the refrigerator after a lip treatment. I like this combination. You can try it and see what you think. Don’t use too much tea tree oil. A cotton tip with a dab of the stuff is all you need. I get good feedback from my clients about using this combination. You can do one side with and one side without and compare. That’s always fun!
Hello to Christine. She is a very nice and capable lady. :slight_smile:

Dee

She’s doing great work! Thanks for sharing your pictures.

She’s doing great work! Thanks for sharing your pictures.

Having worked with Christine for 4 years, then having a clinic close by for a further 8 years I know you will be in the best of hands.

This clients’ skin is beautiful, and very healthy, requiring minimal aftercare, when only having a brief treatment. Because she has never interfered with the growth, she has more choices about scheduling of appointments. She will be hairfree and carefree, after a hand full of spaced out visits.