Up and down

very succinctly,
with the microscope i am now sticking the probe in the follicle for fun but the depth of insertion is another story, sticking to anagen depth doesnt work for me for those shallow telogen hair
so i found that going up and down by 2 or 3 mm, 2 or 3 sec after applying current starting from the supposed follicle depth (feeling intuition mixed with depth gauge of the follicles) give me the best ratio of smooth release per try
my question is does this manoeuver risk me more skin injury ? (i try to never approach the tip from the surface but maybe it could happen with very shallow telo/catagen hair?)

i use a sterex sxb blend with two piece stainless steel prob with HF : 4, DC : 30-45, time : 7 sec (about 3 or 5 for telogen hairs)

thanks for your feedback

What you have described sounds like Displacement Technique which is usually reserved for deep coarse hair. Skin injury (or lack thereof) is not confined to a specific technique but the skill of the electrologist. What machine are you using? (I do not understand your settings)

I’m not sure what DC 30 means? All machines I seen have DC output from 0.1 mA up to 2.0 mA max. What’s the max output on your machine?

well it is a sterex sx b 30 % or 0.30 is as i ve seen 0,3 mA

Telogen hairs tends to need a bit of energy towards the top of the follicle (not too close though) for a smooth release, so it’s not surprising that you’re having success with varying the depth. If the current isn’t reaching the upper layer of skin, then you’re doing fine. If it does, you’ll know from the blanching and blistering around the follicle. You’ll want to avoid this as much as possible. Since you’re doing a slow blend, you shouldn’t need to really come too close to the top anyway.

Those settings appear to be based on the SX-B user manual and I don’t see anything concerning there at all. I find that the HF is a little bit low for working on coarse hairs, but any increase should be done carefully and slowly.

You could take photos of any treated follicles or a video of you treating a follicle if you want better feedback.

thanks, i will do a video when i get the camera for thee microscope
i have seen rapidely growing blister but when i was doing anagen depth, maybe it was insertions that have puncturing the walls of the follicle ?
about my skin reaction i have seen much less scabbing when varying the depth
and about the succes of the treatement, does a smooth release warrent a killed follicle ?
as you seem familiar with sxb when i see the unit of lye chart requirements for corse arm hairs (45 to 60) am i not undertreating with my settings ? (0,4x7 = 28 unit of lye) i do see froth and have smooth releases but i fear to undertreat and see the hair grow again

It would be unlikely to have blistering at anagen depth with the settings you’re using. It’s difficult to say what it could be without a video.

I would disregard the units of lye chart. It’s outdated and seems like overkilling the follicle. I’ve never met any modern electrologist who has used it in practice. Based on the chart, you would need to use a DC setting of 80+ to epilate those large hairs in 7 seconds. From experience, I can vouch that this would be painful. You can turn off the HF and test what a DC of 80+ for a second or two feels like. It’s not workable.

If you’re getting a smooth release without damaging the skin, then that’s what matters. Have you found the working point with HF already? For example, if you turn off the DC, does the HF of 4 allow you to epilate the hair in 7 seconds?

i’ve tried wiith the hf and no, to get a release i have to push it to 15 for 10s (sureley my insertion depth stiinks) so i was not doing blend but galvanic ?
i’ve tried 1mA DC and if i had a good resulte in forarm it is not bearable in upperarm
i seem to witness some ingrown hair and some hairs that grow througth some scabs (maybe 5 to 10 % of the treated area) i really fear to be doing some fancy plucking …
I ve searched online for some seterex sxb settings feedback but i have found nothing apart from the manufacturer guidlines …
i am receiving the camera for the microscope in a week maybe you can give me some feedback about what it is wrong