To be or not to be a CPE ? Whatever

Hair Removal Methods Professional Electrolysis
#1

While my American colleagues are debating whether they should or not be a CPE, in order to be considered worthy of the highest level of professionalism, I would like to show, once again, the results of Electrolysis on underarm, following the protocol that allows be 99.9% hairfree in only 3 clearances. A protocol established in our electrolysis center over 25 years ago with identical results in all cases.

Before first clearance (November 2013)

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Before second clearance (May 2014)

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Before third clearance (September 2014)

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Today, 6 months after third clearing, (March 2015)

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The paradox here is that I was accused by a colleague, yes, a CPE, about exaggerating the results to create false expectations in people. I would say that even as a CPE, this electrologist has very little confidence in what should be a constant in the practice of her own work.

#2

Jossie, a lot of us following your protocol have identical results; I do. I’m starting to take photos again. Jossie, at a speaking engagement … one of the audience said I was a G… Damn LIAR … so I suppose we are in the same category?

Here’s a “sideways” analogy: When you go to a restaurant, you should focus on the food and not the menu. Most of the time I don’t even look at a menu … I just ask what THEY like, and that’s what I order.

#3

many of us are not quite as efficient as You, Josefa. Which means that the progress is not always as dramatic as shown by Your photo. But in a slightly more general sense of a “visual appearance of mostly done” this can be achieved also by Electrologists with less experience and with less developed skills. Provided they use a “clear very thoroughly and wait” strategy.

And if You have ever seen intense permanent scarring produced by a CPE (not one of the 3 german CPEs!!!), You wonder what else but some kind of a “title” that education really gives.

(Despite of that, good mentors are really important for beginners in our profession.)

#4

Now I understand why people in Hairtell is so confusing …

I agree, Beate, any electrologist with little experience can achieve these results, provided he or she pay close attention, make perfect insertions, and apply sufficient current in the right place. If conditions are ideal as in this case where my client scrupulously followed all my instructions, the goal should and can be achieved in 3 clearances.

#5

I don’t know about ‘a lot of us’. However I do know there are some people who use this protocol on their clients with excellent results. But I know others, conveniently the ones who say they are not capable of finishing in 3 clearances, who choose to disbelieve and mock; one in particular who chose to joke about ‘3’ as a ‘magic number’ for the client.

This is not the first time that this person has mocked and disrespected my results. (‘rockstar electrologist’)
I will not permit again this type of joke about my work.

#6

Well, actually Jossie … the “joke” is on THEM!

I would add (for myself anyway) that following the 3-clearances there will be a couple “pick-up” sessions (that don’t amount to much time, actually).

BTW, who is this “Schweinebraten” that “mocks” you? Tell me privately so I can get out my “carving knives.”

#7

But we should not fail to communicate that mostly done is not necessarily fully done: usually cleanup sessions with decreasing effort are, of course, necessary over quite a long time - dependent on the individual demands of each client.

#8

Being an informer is not among my “virtues” Michael. You are respected by the group, without having to sharpen your knives. Instead I am the perfect target for these illustrious ladies. Probably because my Spanish origin?

Beate, as for being “mostly done” and being “fully done” some of my clients from Hairtell can confirm that while some of their areas have needed 4 clearances, other areas were full done in only 2. For example, hands and feet, lumbosacral area, woman’s stomach, woman’s cleavage.
Areas which hairs are mostly vellus type (very long telogen phase, and hardly any activity).

#9

Jossie,

I’m going to venture an opinion where I ordinarily would not. I hope you’ll excuse , it’s not meant in any way to be offensive.

You are a target only because you are able to show proof of an efficiency that the other critical electrologist is NOT ABLE TO ACHIEVE!

you state that being an informer is not one of your virtues, but it IS one of your virtues. I have countless times heard you describe, video and present, your various skillsets. You have not only shown the before, during , and after removal proof, but also the process on video you took to get there.

I’ll even go so far as to openly venture a possible reason those electrologists cannot duplicate your results and feel you therefore set a unrealistic expectation, they arent following your carefully documented method. A thermolysis practitioner might be able to match the speed of epilation, but without the duality of the fast blend you practise cannot duplicate the zero regrowth rate. Therefore they will state it’s impossible. Consider this a compliment even if it wasnt meant as such, it means you are doing your job properly AND you are able to prove it with results.

I will say that I have taken the time to specialize my methods and study the little tidbits of information on your methods that you offer and conferred with other electrologists who were doing the same. I’m not able to compete with your treatments on a comfort scale, so it’s not possible for me to clear an entire area like you do, but I dont have to in order to know that the protocol works, and works well. It is because of this that I am able to provide a 1 second blend treatment time with no regrowth and occasionally hit 20 hairs a minute. Keep talking about what you do and demonstrating the method, Beate is right that mentors are important when they have something substantial to teach, and you have been doing so. The frustrating part with the critics is only that they will ignore what is presented about the protocol, and then complain that it cant be true. Keep documenting the method and passing on the information. It’s far superior to any combination of letters after your name or on your wall.

I will say, I rarely can get a client beyond 2 hours treatment time before they have to stop due to pain tolerance. I dont use any numbing cream or other pain control . You seem to be able to work longer in order to obtain clearance on an area. I would say if there is anything missing from your recipe, it’s information on how you keep the treatment comfortable enough for your client in order for them to withstand the long treatment times. Perhaps you will document this one day, but I suspect it’s just skill.

As for people critical of any expectation you may set, if they dont follow the offered method, including modality ( I hardly know anyone who uses fast blend) then what do they expect? You have a method to teach, so keep teaching it. No one here is going to be critical of your methods, and they have no reason to be if they dont use them.

To any learning electrologist, look around and determine who the best electrologist you know is. Then do everything you can to duplicate what they do. Best advice ever.

Seana

#10

I’m curious how much time the first two clearings took you to complete? Very impressive!!