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#1

I realize this has all probably been said a million times on this forum, but sometimes it just helps to get it all out there and talk about it.

I’m a 19 year old female. I never even noticed the hair on my jawline and cheeks until last December. When I noticed it, I became obsessed. I started looking through old pictures of myself to see if the hair has always been there, I became scrutinizing other females to see if they had hair in those places, and I basically became a mess.

I’ve always had a “stache” as my friends and I always joke about. That wasn’t really a big deal to me. It was easy to handle and I knew a lot of girls dealt with it. The hair on my jawline [which I call my beard] and my cheeks is very fine, but dark. You can’t even see it from any distance, but when I look in a mirror it’s the only thing that captures my attention. I really don’t want to shave it just because it would be too emotional for me. I wake up everyday wishing it would just be gone, but I know it won’t be. It has completely changed my life. I’ve always been a good student, making mostly top of the line grades, but this past semester I couldn’t ever concentrate on any of my work because my hair consumed my thoughts. It affected my social life tremendously as well. All I wanted to do was sleep and cry. However, I did talk about the problem. I couldn’t imagine not sharing my feelings about this. All of my best friends know and I told my mom. All of them said they never noticed it, and when I pointed it out, they said it was normal peach fuzz, just darker and thicker because my hair is naturally very dark and thick. My mom made me an appointment with the doctor as soon as she could. I went in May and I had seven different blood tests done, and my doctor also put me on Yaz. I’ve been on Yaz for a month now, and I haven’t seen any changes, but I know it takes at least three months. I also have really bad acne. I always have. I’ve been to dermatologists before and it seems like nothing ever works. My periods have always been normal, so I don’t feel like it’s PCOS, but then again, I don’t really know. My blood test results are in, but every time the doctor calls I’m at work and I can’t answer. She left me a message saying there was nothing “too abnormal or critical and not to worry.” However, I still don’t know exactly what that means.
I am overweight, probably about 40 lbs, and I know that’s probably the cause of all of this, which is what devastates me the most. I’ve made myself this way. I have no one to blame but myself for my hairy face, and now there really is no changing it. And it’s not just my face, my legs are super hairy, the hair being really dark and thick. My neck and chin are like my jawline, dark but very fine hairs. And I have the infamous line of hair underneath my belly button.

I’ve always had super long, thick, dark hair, so I always just thought that’s why my body is so hairy. I never realized it was a medical issue until I saw the hair on my face. Everyone in my life has noticed a complete change in me. I was an overall happy person. A very stressed out person, but still happy. I have now become this depressed mess of a girl who has no hope for a future. I find way too many flaws in myself now. I used to dream about getting married, and now I know I probably won’t. I know this all may sound ridiculous, but it’s honestly how I feel. I used to love wearing my hair up and now I wouldn’t dare in fear of someone seeing the hair.

It’s a constant struggle, as most of you know. I have to tell myself daily it’s not a huge deal, but I know I’m lying to myself. Any time I start to have fun and I start living my life again, the thought of my hair pops in my head and brings this sick feeling over my body. I hate myself most days. I have lost all confidence in myself.

Thanks for reading if you did. I know these posts come frequently, but it’s been a hard morning, so I thought I should get this all out.
For all of you who have this problem, my heart genuinely hurts for you. I tear up every time I read a post like mine because I know exactly what you’re going through. Good luck with your hair and remember no matter what you look like, you are truly beautiful. Just remember to tell yourself that :slight_smile:

#2

Well, I would say you are normal. Sure you sound a little on the hairy side, but many many women have it worse. I would get a second opinion from another doctor as well and another blood test. Doctors don’t take these issues too seriously and don’t run tests at appropriate times. The blood test is to check different things like hormones, but hormones can fluctuate during the day and especially during the month (menstruating), thus possibly showing some inaccuracy in your levels. More than likely though, it’s basically just that your skin is overly sensitive to the normal levels of hormones in your body, such as testosterone and it reacts to that by growing some extra hair and having acne. It doesn’t make you any less feminine or mean there is something horribly wrong with you.

If you don’t want to shave, then may I suggest you try bleaching the hair. It’s perfect for the dark peach fuzz type of hair. You would only have to do it maybe once every 3 to 4 weeks or as desired. The only downfall that I’ve read is that it may make the hair thicker when it’s bleached, but I never noticed a difference when I did it. The only other option is electrolysis. It would permanently remove your hair, but it can be costly. If your mom is willing to pay the price, than go for it. Otherwise, bleaching cream is around $10 a box and it’s good for more than a few times use.

You do sound like you have developed a lot of psychological issues due to this and you may want to seek help, but the best place to look is within yourself. Just keep telling yourself that you matter and you are beautiful with all your flaws. As cheesy as it may sound, it will work. I would stop paying attention to the television and media and focus on the reality. No one is perfect and we all have at least a couple things we don’t like about ouselves…at the very least. Believe me when I say this…“you are a product of what you think” and everything you think will happen to you, WILL happen. So if you keep telling yourself that you won’t get married, then you won’t. I can tell you that many women who live with the same situation, including myself, are regarded as beautiful and have boyfriends and husbands. You just have to not shut yourself off from the idea. You’ll get through this.

The only other advice I can give is to get healthy. Start exercising and eating right. Drink lots of water. Get those 40 extra pounds off b/c they are doing you no good. One of the most difficult aspects of the hair situation for me personally, is that I have no control over it and there’s no cure and very few permanent options. That always makes me feel out of control and other parts of my life out of control, for example work or school. If you start aiming your focus toward eating right and exercising and school and gain control of those aspects, the hair will be a minor hindrance and a lot easier to manage.

Good luck!

#3

You’re definitely not abnormal and I know this problem seems huge to you and like it’s your fault, but it’s really not. The fact that you have the hair, acne, and are somewhat overweight may be the result of your hormones going wild, and nothing you can help without intervention by medication etc. You are correct that it takes a few months at least for the birth control pills to start leveling out your hormones.

I would also make sure to see a good endocrinologist to get all the right tests. Hormonal issues are hard to detect. Either way, there are also many solutions to your problem, both temporary and permanent. Many women, especially of middle easter descent, go through lives waxing or threading their faces and many other body parts. It’s just a part of life for many. You can also get back in shape through the help of a trainer at a local gym etc.

If you want permanent hair removal down the line, electrolysis is a good option for this area.

#4

Hey EchoPark.

I have the exact same thing as you, but I’m only seventeen. Its really horrible, and I can relate to every single thing you’re saying. (I also refer to it as my beard! How uncanny) I’ve felt every feeling you described, and obviously these feelings still run through me. They usually happen in bursts of fear and paranoia and depression. I totally understand what you’re going through and it really made my day to know someone else knows how I feel. I just want to let you know however, that all these feelings of paranoia and self-doubt have been at a minimum lately because I’ve been praying a lot. I would say I’m a pretty religious person, and praying to God, and knowing that He has a solid plan for me just makes life so much easier to live! So when I get really upset over my stupid hairy face, thinking life would be best if I became a hermit, I think “GOD LOVES ME” and nothing else should matter because thats all I need. Now, I have to say I am not completely satisfied with that reassurance, so I started going to an electrologist xD She works really slowly, but it has helped me gain confidence in knowing that something is being done to get rid of the hair! We are still beautiful and no doubt strong enough to handle it.

Keep your chin up babe! And I’ll do the same :slight_smile:

#5

Thank you everyone :]
This site is so encouraging. I know I’m not alone and that’s a huge comfort.

My doctor finally got ahold of me and after reviewing my test results, she seems to think I have PCOS. I know the biggest part of PCOS is having irregular periods, which I’ve never had. They’ve been exactly the same since I was 12. All my blood tests came back great except my cholesterol was a tad bit high and the adrenal gland test [I forgot the name of it] was high. Testosterone, insulin, blood sugar and everything else was perfectly fine. My parents are very supportive and want me to get a second opinion just to make sure. My dad wants to take me to a good endocrinologist before my doctor puts me on Metformin.

So I guess my question is can one have PCOS when their periods are completely normal?

This definitely caught me off guard. I never expected her to say I have PCOS. Diabetes runs on my mom’s side of the family, so now, more than ever, I’m going to try to start losing weight and becoming a healthier person. I’m going to start putting on focus on defeating this, rather than letting it defeat me.

Thank you again!

#6

Absolutely!

PCOS is complex. You can have all the “symptoms” or none at all. That’s why it can be difficult to diagnose.

#7

Agree with Choice. You can have none of the symptoms and still have it. Have they checked for thyroid problems?

#8

Yes, they also checked my thyroid, and it was normal. I had seven different tests done, but I can’t remember all of them. My results are coming in the mail soon, so then I’ll know for sure.

#9

If all your tests have come back normal, congratulations. This means that if you just do something like, read The Diet Cure, by Julia Ross, do a program based on what your body needs, based on the information and questionairs in the book and you can end your symptoms in 30 to 90 days, and start a new life free from this problem.

#10

I’m 20, I’ve been suffering from unwanted hair on my face, back, breasts and stomach for about two years now. I mean I guess I’ve had it all my life, but it just recently started to REALLY bother me a couple years ago. It isn’t EXTREMELY noticeable except for in direct sunlight or any sort of harsh, direct overhead light. You can see ALL of it in direct sunlight, especially on my face. I pluck my chin and cheeks daily. This has resulted in two red, bumpy spots on my chin which are pretty gross looking, although they’re on the lower part so they’re not too noticeable. I know that to get rid of them I’ll have to stop plucking, at least periodically–but I feel like I can’t because if I do, the hair will grow in thicker than ever. I can’t stand the thought of being an ugly, hairy girl, and that’s what I feel like. All the time. I’m not really overweight, I’m like 120, 5’5’ but I’m hairy, and it’s grossssssss.

I’ve never shaved my face and I never will. I feel like thats the last straw and when I do that I’ll probably kill myself. (exaddurating, but still, it’s how i feel). But I feel like the more I remove the hair, the worse it will get, but if I don’t remove it everyone will notice it. I don’t know if it’s just me but everytime I talk to someone theyre always glancing down at my chin and I think it’s because of the hair, or the red spots. Although I cover them up pretty well with foundation/concealer.

So basically I feel trapped. You can’t really see it at all in any other light than direct sunlight, so I go outside on my back porch everyday and pluck all of the extremely noticeable hairs out. When this all started I was using depliatories, but those were really harsh on my skin and gave me rashes. So I started plucking my chin, and vowed not to start on the rest of my face, but failed and started plucking my cheeks too. Now it’s almost impossible to remove all of the hair, and takes nearly an hour. They’re all blonde, so they refleft the sun. Although the ones on my chin are darker, yet very thin and hard to notice unless you’re looking really close. When the light hits my face a certain way though, I feel like you can see it all anyway. I’m constantly comparing myself to other girls and wondering if anyone has the same problem as I do that I know. But I don’t think so.

This is doing a serious number on my skin, so I wear quite a bit of make-up to cover it up. I use aloe-vera moisturizer everyday, as well as facial toner. I exfoliate daily with Apricot scrub, which seems to help with the smoothness, as well as Vaseline. I apply Scar Serum to my chin 3-4 times a day just incase I’m causing scarring, which I’m sure I am. I’ve been plucking daily for almost two years. I tan because being tan covers up a lot of my flaws. I’m a redhead though, so I don’t get as tan as other people do. The plucking, the hair removal, IT HAS TO STOP but I don’t know what to do. I drink spearmint tea daily because I read online that it may reduce hirsutism in women. I tried electrology but that requires stopping removing the hair and letting it grow to long enough where it’s visible, able to be felt when I touch my face and I can’t stand it. I just want to be normal but I don’t know how anymore. I feel like if I would have just left it alone I’d be a lot happier. But I don’t know. I do suffer from PCOS and irregular periods, so I’m sure that has a lot if not everythinig to do with my unwanted hair problem. I’m on birth control which is supposed to stop the hair form getting worse, but I feel like since I’m removing it so frequently it’s inevitable that the problem will worsen with time.

I’ve shaved the lower part of my back a few times, and am satisifed when all of the hair is gone, but then it grows back prickly and gross and I feel disgusting when my boyfriend touches it. Or any part of my body with hair on it, for that matter. I pluck my breasts about 3 times a week and that results in ingrown hairs which look disgusting. I shave the lower part of my stomach, just the small area under my belly button, and that doesn’t really bother me too much.

But I feel really awful about myself and dont understand why my boyfriend is still with me when I’m so gross. I mean, he says that it doesn’t bother him, everyone has hair all over their body, it’s just peach fuzz, blah blah blah. But I feel like he’s just trying to protect my feelings. I can tell when we’re in the sun and he’s afraid to look at me because he knows he’ll be grossed out. I don’t know if this is all in my head or what, but I can’t take much more of it. BLAH, I don’t know what anyone could even say back to this, but I just wanted to get it all out.

#11

  • You are very lucky to have an understanding boyfriend. That’s very important. You are also lucky that your hair is blond. Dark hair is much more noticeable.

  • Yes, your hair is a result of PCOS. What birth control are you on? Is it Yasmine or Yaz that helps control the hair growth for some? Have you talked to your endocrinologist about possibly taking anything stronger like Spiro to prevent future growth? If you feel like the hair is getting worse, it’s partly due to your age, partly to PCOS, and also partly to plucking instead of shaving or clipping.

  • Shaving is actually a much better solution than plucking because it doesn’t make the hair any stronger or more coarse like plucking and waxing can. I know it sounds awful, but it really is the best solution. And once you do it, you won’t feel that weird about it. The thought of doing it is usually the worst part.

  • If it only takes you an hour to pluck, you don’t have as much hair as some. And if you are ready to consider a permanent solution, i.e. electrolysis, it wouldn’t be that difficult and wouldn’t take that much time for this amount of hair. You should really consider it if this is important to you and can improve your life significantly. Where are you located? There is lots of information on this forum on how to find a good electrologist.

  • Is the hair on your other areas also blond?

#12

Hiii,
So many issues!

This reply is to lil red and Echo Park, mostly. It’s a bit long, but bear with me.

I am 24 and have been dealing with the issues you describe since puberty. Face, neck, back, belly, chest, breast and leg hair all upsetting me. I was diagnosed with PCOS when I was 18.

I just want to say a few things, based on the insight I’ve gotten over the past few years.

From the ages 13 to 19, I was quite freaked out by the hair, and, partly as a result, developed bulimia. The bulimia did not affect my life too much - it was mild. Then, when I was diagnosed with PCOS and told, quite abruptly,to change my diet and start being super, uber healthy, my bulimia gradually got worse - much worse. For this reason, I want to sound a warning: telling people to “just get healthy” is over simplistic. As advice, it is impossible to follow; adjusting to the prescribed PCOS diet takes years for many people. It’s important that those of us with PCOS (and related hormonal problems) aspire to the right lifestyle, but please remember to be gentle on yourself in making those changes. If you are persistent, you will make valuable changes over the years, but if you expect to do it straight away, you may end up thinking about it all the time, getting anxious about it, paranoid about it, and feeling a deep guilt that you seem to be failing so frequently. This, as many of us here know I’m sure, is the slippery slope to eating disorder land…*

If you develop/have bulimia, I can’t recommend this book enough: “Overcoming Binge Eating”, by Christopher Fairburn. (I have no affiliation with the people behind this book; I hope I’m allowed recommend it here.) My bulimia is much improved since I read it.

In the past, my hirsuitism made me feel, as you feel, utterly disgusting. I used to look in the mirror sometimes and get these fits of panicky tears, and be unable to get dressed… Since then, I’ve slowly realised what a crazy world we live in, and how the pressure on women (in particular) to look perfect is driving so many of us mad (literally!) When you are constantly thinking how revolting you look, that IS a type of madness…

Now I am in a better place, emotionally. I have recovered from a severe depression. I am making very slow, satisfying progress in resisting the pressure to look good all the time. I like to look as attractive as I can, and I do remove much of my hair, but I’m aware of these contradictions in how I behave, and I reflect on them, and I try to be courageous, modifying my behaviour, in gradual, helpful ways. I’m gentle on myself. At the moment,I’m experimenting with letting my under-arm hair grow - I don’t know yet if I will have the bravery to go through with it, but I’m proud of myself for trying something so unfashionable! I understand the desire not to attract the negative comments of others (boy, do I), and the desire to attract the boys/men(/women) you want (boy, do I), but developing the strength of character to do something uncool is very rewarding. It’s the only possible path out of madness…

I have a long way to go, and you have an even longer way to go, but I hope you remember what I’ve said. I’m an ordinary girl, who likes to be popular and sexy and all the rest of it, but I’ve been through insanity and come out the other side. Unwanted hair is a mental issue, rather than a physical one, and recognising that has helped me become HAPPY again. I wish you (and all of us!) the very best of luck.*

#13

nonnynonny, are you on any medication for PCOS like spiro? Have you considered hair removal with either laser or electrolysis? You can also find support and lots of information at soulcysters.com forum for women with PCOS.

Btw, anorexia/bulimia can also add to the hair growth if you get too skinny as the body starts developing hair to protect you.

#14

Have an your physician check your adrenal gland. Adult onset andrenal hyperplasia can also be a contributing factor.

Janet

#15

Anyone suffering from adrinal exhaustion should remove caffeine from their diet and increase glutamine, and gladular tissue. The glandular tissue can be eaten, or if you are like most of us and don’t like the idear of cooking organ meat and eating it, you can get excellent glandular supplements and get your boost that way.

I like the glandulars pills made by Don Lemmon’s Know How, and Standard Process, but there are plenty of good companies out there serving this market.

#16

I have had a hell of a time obsessing about PCOS

Currently living in the UK, a second opinion would require changing my practice and that would be difficult

I have been hairy my WHOLE life, even before getting my period.

DRs don’t know enough about PCOS at all. A lot of them are not up to date on diagnosing more subtle pcos

I have acne and hirsutism. I do not have irregular periods (means little) OR cysts and I have normal bloodwork (but need more and can’t get it).

i must say my dad and bro are VERY hairy- my bro especially

I dont know if i have pcos. I am not overweight, don’t know about my insulin status, but am taking yasmin.

I feel really miserable with the acne and hair. the hair got worse with laser and now I have to figure out electro. I actually tried electro first but had trouble with it/hated the scabs/etc

I hate checking on my body to find there is hair I never noticed.

I hate catching people looking at my hair

I hate looking at other girls and seeing just how different i am from them

I hate hair on my chest and living in fear that it will pop up on my back

I hate that this issue dominates my thoughts and isolates me when I would otherwise have a better life

I hate letting this hell dominate my life

I hate planning the next year and where i will move to based on my hair removal needs.

#17

Why can’t you get more tests? Don’t you have free health care in the UK?

How many laser treatments did you have? Type of laser?

Quality electrolysis care is assured permanent hair removal. Scabs are avoidable or they should be so small that no one notices them and they slough off in about a week.

Your feelings are noted. Now, what you need is a good medical evaluation followed by a plan to bring you relief from the unwanted hair. Whether the hair growth is genetic? or caused by PCOS? would be helpful to know, but it is a fact that the hair you have now can only be eliminated with assurance, by competent electrolysis care. If you can’t afford it, then start saving and do temporary measures until you can afford it. I’m referring to your facial hair, but electrolysis is good for body hair as well. Proper and professional laser hair reduction can be a great help on body areas if you are good candidate. I do not like laser hair reduction for female facial hair because I have been hired by too many women to clean up the hair that was induced to grow after laser treatments. It’s not pretty in some cases.

I don’t tend to dwell on problems, but rather do all I can to solve them and bring about results. I can encourage you not to be hard on yourself and not to worry, but would rather focus on encouraging you to just get a plan and taking small steps forward to solve your hair problem.

So isn’t your health care free in the UK? Why can’t you get more information? Am I missing something here.

Dee

#18

hi dfahey

thanks so much for the reply!

  1. yes its free but your gp is the gate keeper so if they wont request more tests then you cannot get them. I am considering changing but I know that my gp follows the same protocol many do so I don’t know if I would be helped in the end. My guess is that if the preliminary tests come out negative they don’t probe further. I have normal total T, lh ration, ovaries, and menses. Still, I could have PCOS. However, talking to a friend who is a DR, what I have may just be a hypersensitivity to testosterone.

  2. the laser induced hair growth I have on the right side of my face mostly and on the underside of my chin (which had only vellus hair before I stupidly agreed to treat them) WAKES me up at night and i am SO disturbed by having worse hair than i did when I tried electro as a first option for a year. I saw NO progress even when I had hair only on the tip of my chin! I had skim damage that healed after a year of regular retinoid. Had I just stuck with laser on that area I would not be so miserable right now!!!

  3. my scabbing was noticeable. is it really NOT for some people? WOW.

  4. is it true that if I get proper electro every 10-14 days for 9-18 months the hair will be gone forever or is that a hugely optimistic estimate? really though. I have read that electro can take up to 4 years. thats A LOT of time and money and scabbing.

thanks so much for your time, I can’t tell you how good it feels to talk to someone about this!

#19

THis is going to be long and hopefully, not too muddled.

Yes, on point number one. It is true that your hair follicles can be more vulnerable to the small, normal amounts of male testosterone circulating in your blood, but you are still a normal healthy woman.

If you want to go further with testing, are you “permitted” by the government run system to pay out of pocket for the extra testing?

Your electrolysis experience was sub-par and perhaps your visits were not timed correctly to catch only growing hair? Perhaps you never got a first, full clearance? You need to keep punching away after the FFC and stay on top of the hair growth cycles to come. There is no hair that can live when a skilled electrologist treats it with the proper intensity and timing with the proper probe size. If your practitioner did not explain all this to you, your chance for success is greatly diminished. If you were tweezing while having electrolysis, your chances are greatly diminished for success. Did you complain about your skin reaction? Did she understand and try a new strategy? Was she using an epilator where it is hard to control the energy levels with a consistency that one can repeat at every treatment? What was your aftercare like? I repeat this often for good reason: It is possible to “kill” hair below the skin’s surface without prolonged healing reactions that embarrass the client in front of her family, friends and co-workers. You may have some temporary reaction that lasts less than a week, but this is usually in the begining when hairs are thicker, in all stages of growth and closer together, but it gets better after one gets over that hurdle. It sounds like you were overtreated repeatedly and this a big red flag that one should be alerted to. Scabbing on the face is not desired, but happens sometimes, but the scabs should be pinpoint and slough of within a week. Never pick off a scab! Never distrub a scab! One should tell the electrologist, so she can try something else to prevent scabbing. Maybe she needs to do something drastic like, dump her epilator and re-train on the better computerized brands availabale today.

We recommend that consumers get lots of consultations and short treatments to check out skin healing before they settle with one person. I even tell my new clients to go check out other electrologists in the area and call me if they want to proceed with me after looking around. I don’t care if they go to someone else because I’m not competitive. I offer what I offer and will improve or stay the same depending on the feedback I get. Blaming electrolysis for your bad outcome is like blaming a car for bashing the fender.

Your statement in point four is absolutely true, but you don’t need to go every 10-14 days for 9-18 months. It’s better than that! You do need to go more frequently for longer appointments for the first three- four months, maybe less, depending on whether you tweeze and how much hair you have, and then appointments space out and get farther apart after months four to six. After my clients get a first,full clearance, then we space things out to every 2-3 weeks for a short time and then every month until the end comes in month 9?,12?,14?,14?,15?,16?,17?,18?. Now that’s pretty reasonable and offers so much hope for any person that uses the word “hate” in relation to so much hair. When I say all this, I am talking about my setup. I use PicoFlash thermolysis mixed in with a little blend here and there, on a professional, powerful computerized epilator (the Apilus Platinum (Dectro International). Probe size matches the diameter of the hair, quality magnification and lighting. I offer appointments longer that 15-30 minutes. An electrologist must have the stamina to do longer appointments when one presents with a lot of hair or you, the consumer, will get very frustrated and run out of money. NONE, AND I MEAN NONE!, of my clients has ever taken four years to complete!! If one reports it takes four years, then the electrologist is doing a slower method or is missing the target repeatedly or the client comes in whenever they desire, not according to a schedule that matches hair growth cycles. One is doomed if they don’t adhere to an appointment schedule that synchronizes with new hair that comes to the surface.

I am not the only electrologist that offers a good setup with the skill to get the hair off asap with a fast healing scenario. There are lots of us out there doing this every day so people like you can get back their self-esteem and get on with their lives. Until something better than electrolysis, assured permanent hair removal, comes along that is better, it’s the only option you have right now. You must find someone that has nailed this and knows how to do this properly. They need good equipment and most of all, skill. Start close to home and work your way outward. Even if you have to travel to another town, it would be better than having a scabby face and perhaps, skin damage somewhere down the road.

Read hairtell as much as you can and you will know exactly what you need to focus on for effective electrolysis care with permanent hair removal assured in 9-18 months. Think beyond what each elecetrologist tells you. We are all different in our approach and you will get permanent hair removal, but you have to compare sensation, speed and healing factors. If you can’t find a good practitioner, then I offer my sincere sympathy to you. If you don’t have a career yet, then think about helping the profession by becoming a well-trained professional electrologist.

The things that will lift us out of a funk relates to careful planning of how to solve a problem. Keep us posted on how you are going to go about solving your problem and thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.

Dee