Surgical microscopes for diy (face) blog

Hair Removal Methods Do-It-Yourself Electrolysis
#1

Hey, judging from my name you know what I want to do. I want to remove the problem of innacurate insertions on the face with overpowered magnification and possibly non-reversing mirrors.

I’m eyething this floor stand Zeiss Opmi 9, I’ll be looking at it tommorow to see what the manuverability of this thing is, the working distance and most important, the mirror capability.

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Does anyone have experience with microscopes on ones own face? I know the practical seeming digital microscopes come with latency and the problem of mono vision.
Ideally I can do this with a single high quality mirror (to avoid light loss problems and abberations)

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red is the normal angle, white is the mirror and green is the new angle that it looks at if I remove the pistol grip

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Ellie

#2

Seems a little expensive and a bit over-board. But… why not? Let us know how it works!

Oh. and. No experience what-so-ever.

#4

UPDATE:

tldr: working distance is off by 10mm, I can get it to focus on my pinkie if I put that on my chin with the mirror setup, but not my chin (opmi 9-F withh 200 Objective 12,5x Okular)

I might try to get an objective lens smaller than 12,5x (10x), and switch it out, that might fix the working distance, I’ll update if that works out, the problem is it won’t be linear, I’m not totally sure it’ll work, and I’m not even sure you can change it, but I’ve asked and am waiting on an answer.

I think the official solution for this would be a Varioskop by Zeiss. Which I can’t find, but that would be the best solution, a 100f Lens would also probably work but they cost 600 dollars and the microscope would have been 650 : /

Edit: It can be changed, but I think I have to put this whole Microscope thing on hold for a few months, if anyone tries something like this lmk, I’ll be back

#5

About the Magnification (200 Objektiv 12,5x Okular opmi 9-F)
The shaded red square is 2 times 4cm (0,78 inches times 1,57 inches) rougly one half upper lip.

The area you could view was 2x2cm.

So probably not the best for anything other than tiny areas, or change the 200 Objective to a Varioskope or 100f (costs 600 ebay which is too much for me)

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#6

do you have any Ideas on how to make this work? I’m sort of fearing I won’t come across a deal like this again 650 is insane.

EDIT: the microscope is gone, sad, going to have to keep looking I guess and figure out how to do this physically first with the whole working distance thing

#7

Never seen this before from any of my colleagues. Could this equipment scare a client/patient???
PLEASE IN ALL RESPECT…In my opinion, if you want to remove the problem of inaccurate insertions on the face, take a class 1100 hours of training in electrology as I did here in USA. There are less hours of training that may do just as well. Travel for it if you have to, it’s worth it. But before that have an eye exam by an ophthalmologist (an eye care specialist, doctors of medicine). They have specialized training and experience in diagnosing and treating eye and vision conditions. I’m not saying you have an eye condition. They can do an eye scan too. Just saying.

Here’s what happened in our clinic during teaching our students; One electrology student was not able to do proper insertions. Every instructor including me, took turns staying late to help her improve. She still couldn’t aim the probe properly and the student was giving up. The instructors had a meeting, to try one more thing, before letting her go. We ask her if she wouldn’t mind to get an eye exam before giving up. She did get the eye exam. They gave her new prescription glasses and attached a flip up and down magnification to them. That was it in a nutshell! She graduated and we were all happy!
Reach out to chat with me…email: drlaser@comcast.net

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#8

Why would a stereomicroscope scare a client? Do dentists who use these same microscopes to improve quality of their work scare patients away? There are electrologists around the world who rely on stereomicroscopes to provide top notch work and clients who receive work should feel lucky that their techs invest into such critical equipment.

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#9

Yeah of all the posts I have read so far (specifically on magnificatin) qutite a few people on this forum have either considered them or preach their effectiveness constantly (looking at you James ;)).

Also I have no problems with inserting and or vision, I just wanted to explore the option of buying one of these to remove thin hairs, not on clients but on my own face. (I think you might be in the wrong section, this is the diy section). Thank you for your input though :slight_smile:

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#10

I personally would not work on my own face especially the vellus or thinner finer type hairs.
Legs okay easy enough to do yourself.
Let us know how it all works out for you with the new potential equipment.
Thank you for new ideas.

#11

when I was doing my own hair removal…yes…ON MY FACE, well let me say if I had a hair for every person who told me that I wouldnt see success or or would scar myself horribly, well, I’d still have a full beard! Thing is, None of it, not one word of it ended up being true.
If I could do it, there is 100% no doubt that diyface can do it as well. Effectively and safely. Will it be easy? No. Can it be done? Absolutely.

DIYface the issue of optics and seeing around corners like your jawline when your eyeballs cant requires some ingenuity. I always found it helpful to keep my amagnification low-tech, a 4 inch revlon 10x magnifying mirror suction cupped onto another mirrror from the ceiling, or onto the lens of a circle lamp magnifier so that you can get it in the right position. Others have tried a higher tech method as you have, with some success. I do recall discussion at one point of someone using a cheap USB microscope on a articulated arm for this purpose, you might try that but if I recall correctly the issue was with some delay between the live image and what appeared on the screen. Kinda like a DIY version of the Opti-vision by dectro.

Seana

#12

Hi Seana,

thanks for the advice :slight_smile: yeah, lowtech might have to be the way to go. I thought the issue with digital microscopes was the monovision which has no 3d depth, I can’t tell how/why the Opti-vision is on the market with that issue?? Maybe its not as big of a hurdle, I can’t find anyone who has used it though to give feedback (maybe because its so damn expensive). I’m trying to work on a stereoscopic digital microscope right now though, maybe that will work, I can always dream :wink:

EDIT: will be asking dectro directly, will update

#13

May I ask what may sound like a stupid question;
What’s wrong with finding someone to work with you so that you trade work on each other?

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#14

Not a stupid question, I know this is the thing they always tell you when you get into diy here. I’m not sure there is anyone I could do this with, and I also don’t feel comfortable letting another person near my face, I don’t think there is anyone with the time to put into this to learn it properly currently around me. I will probably have to look into it once I’ve finished my chin and upper lip, but for now I’m going to be putting it off

#15

I’m looking at getting a stereoscope simply because I had my septum’s done and the weight of the loupes is too much. Plus, I need a prescription as well. So having my lens changed event year with practice gets expensive. Then there’s the down time when I have to send the loupes in for the lens change. It’s a logistics thing.

#16

Not practice, oroscoptic. Darn autocorrect