there was a debate on this topic a while back. i downloaded one paper, not sure if it was this one.
however, if anyone wants the full text article, just message me.
What ?! I was planning to start laser in my underarms. I have skin IV type and didn’t know NdYag does such thing. Have you guys experienced anything like that in this area ?
No. I did not.
This is a flawed study that took place in Turkey. Same thing would happen with an Alex laser. If there is no hair, the area will feel wet because there is nothing to absorb the moisture.
Makes sense.
If anything, when my armpits do get damp now, they dry very quickly as soon as I’m in a cool environment.
I had one laser treatment on my underarms and after two days of the session I was sick for a week. I couldn’t raise my hands and I had a fever because of it. This was the only time I had laser there. I am not sure was it because of laser or an infection as they had to shave them during the session or maybe because I applied cortisone cream as advised by the laser technician.
I would like to tell you that I have developed severe axillary hyperhidrosis after 2 sessions of laser hair removal.
I don’t know what kind of laser was used. But I felt a lot of pain during the process.
It seems to be irreversible, since I have done it 2 years ago.
Now I am really desperate. I’m using botox (3 times until now), but after 3 months it doesn’t work properly anymore. And I live in the warm Brazil…
I would like very much to know about other people who had this side effect.
I have written to the author of this article you cited, but I had no reply.
If you know about more cases like this, please tell me!
Tks. Leticia
What flaw exactly did you find with this study?
Women, traditionally, always have hairless underarms, be it from shaving or waxing, and they well know what hairless underarms feel like, and how much moisture is supposed to be there.
Why doesn’t anyone report such side effects after electrolysis permanently removes all and any hair in any area?
I think this Forum is becoming more and more anti Laser.
I think that medical facts should trump politics when treating people.
I agree. I just came from AAD in San Diego and the big theme in the show was how
hydrosis was being treated with NDYAG lasers.
They also treat hair loss and thinning by stimulating hair growth with lasers, but I guess, just as with hydrosis, this is not exactly the same treatment as done for hair reduction.
That’s correct. It is a deeper treatment with the same wavelength.
Yes Chris…So far , in my experience i have found that this forum seems to be mainly for encouraging electrolysis. There are a handful of amazing pro electrolysist practitioners but few to no laser pros regularly on this board. Can you suggest a more active board ?
Danika, yes, this Forum has changed to pro electrolysis and it is for this reason that I do not participate as much. Electrolysis is a good modality for hair removal but it has its downsides as well, however, they are not mentioned on this Forum. I am not here to slam one modality over another. As such, I participate as needed and when I have time.
Putting the debate aside, most people who post here for Laser advice ask for info on either (1) is my hair suitable for Laser? (2) are my settings okay/does x y z sound okay?
I think those questions are generally answered. I know I have answered those fairly plenty of times.
People aren’t pushed towards Laser in the same way we sometimes push towards electrolysis but I think that has a lot to do with the fact that very often people present their photos and their hair is just too fine for Laser.
I have to agree with Romeo: agree in a “global” sense. All of us can only talk about our direct experiences and, as such, there are limitations. Nobody really has “the answer” to the question of “the best approach for hair removal in all cases.”
In my own “world” I mostly see “laser that failed!” Indeed, that’s why the person is coming to me. Of course my own opinion is therefore colored by my direct experiences.
The hair removal “menu” has gotten very large and is getting larger all the time. Rather than all the verbal “twaddle,” it would be awesome for all of us to simply SHOW the work! (Jossie does this pretty much singularly. Bravo Jossie!).
(Is the public confused? Well, our own resident Chemist is the “poster boy” for attempting to figure out the MESS of “permanent hair removal” … using his own body!)
Imagine a website with a “Show Me” section in which laser techs and electrologists would be able to upload their work (easily, and not through, say, photobucket.com). The public could follow along, relate to the specific patient and make decisions based upon graphic verifiable illustrations. Added-in would be actual time and money spent on the specific case.
The literally thousands of Hairtell “hits” garnered from the public illustrates their desire to make an informed decision. Hairtell is only somewhat successful. My criticism is that there are too few therapists that are willing to “speak out” (only 4 or 5 in all). It’s not that Hairtell is not fully open; it’s that most practitioners are reluctant to “put themselves out there.”
I greatly honor those that are willing to talk on-line. They are putting themselves out there in an “unsafe” environment. They could be “wrong,” make mistakes and look foolish. So, BRAVO to all of you on Hairtell! Most electrologists remain “safe” in a cloistered little world they have made for themselves. All the manufacturers, save one (yes Dectro), have also taken a back seat … and they give NOTHING back! Indeed, I have decades-long friends in the electrology community, and I am mainly “pissed off” at them.
I know that I often appear grumpy and usually take an opposing position but, in reality, I support even my detractors on Hairtell, Hairtell specifically and the Dectro company (and I am certainly not in anyone’s “back pocket!”).
The internet-public has a growing demand for an end to the parochial approach that the electrology community as fostered for decades. It’s time to “blow this sucker wide open!” Oh, and if you are not posting, showing evidence, and stating your ideas … you are part of the problem!
BRavo Mr. Bono. Perfectly said. DITTO on the entire speech! I also wish there was an open forum such as what youve described ! How incredibly helpful that would be to both the laser /electro techs and those in need their services. Blow it OPEN!!!
Well, (not to give away any secrets), it’s coming …
In all of my efforts in this funny profession I had only one point of view … the PATIENT’S! I was a patient for 4 years of unsuccessful hair removal and I never lost my “hostility” toward the profession … maybe too strong of a word, but I believe ONLY in serving the patient. When you do that, everything else fits in place.