Stick a fork in me. I'm done!

It’s been a while since I’ve posted. Thought I’d drop in and say hi.

I started my electrolysis treatments in mid 2004.

I’m basically done.

ELECTROLYSIS, WHEN DONE RIGHT, WORKS.

I had my entire body treated. The only remaining hairs on my body are on my scalp, my eyelashes, and my eyebrows. And those darn nose hairs. Specific areas of treatment: initially legs, underarms, genitals, peri-anal. As hair got scarce, I moved to the face (upper lip, chin), and after the electrologists started to get bored and I was finishing my treatments early, I let them work a little bit on my eyebrows and arms (which weren’t problem areas at all). LOL.

I am a male. I initially sought treatment for health reasons. In the mid-90’s I was diagnosed with a degenerative neuromuscular disorder. I had been bedridden for weeks at a time. As a result, my skin frequently got infected (usually starting with the follicles - staph infections), and with impaired body functions, maintaining hygiene got to be a lot of work with hair in the way.

So I wanted to get rid of my dark, coarse body hair. Like most people starting out, I didn’t know beans about hair removal. I didn’t know there was such a thing as electrolysis. My dermatologist steered me towards shaving and trimming hair. So I went on the internet and did a search on permanent hair removal. One of those searches, well into my journey, brought me here.

In the beginning, it was a challenge finding electrologists in my area who were willing to work on men. It was even more of a challenge looking for folks to work on all body parts. Finding a good one to do both … HAH!

I’ve had ineffective treatments, and I’ve had excellent treatments. It took a while to measure the results - who was not so great, and those who are enshrined in the pantheon of legendary hair killers. I’ll keep mum on the former. Of the latter - I can’t say enough about Arlene Batz (NYC). Based on my experience, she is a rock star when it comes to killing hairs. Thank you Arlene. And there are others!

With each hour spent in treatment, and with each communication with folks here at Hairtell (thank you James Walker and others), I became a much more savvy consumer of hair removal services.

Here are my random thoughts, based on non-stop weekly treatments over the last 6 years:

Finding an electrologist: Electrologists are a tightly-knit group who may deal with a lot of weirdos and downright flaky people from time to time. Find a good electrologist in you area. Cultivate a relationship with that person. Show up to your appointment on time, show respect, and communicate. Don’t be flaky. If the electrologist is initially reluctant to work on certain body parts (example: genitals), she might assent later when she (or he) gets to know you better, or gets more confidence in treating that area (she might not have worked on that area before!). That person could also refer you to somebody else who could.

Laser?Did not appear to work for me.

Blend or thermolysis?Thick coarse hairs that are in hormonally influenced areas … go for blend. Mop up thinner stuff with flash thermolysis.

Juice?Technique is everything - but current is important too. I’ve had ineffective treatment from well trained CPE’s who just didn’t use enough juice.

Fastest results: Leg hairs. It’s amazing how they go away with just one treatment.

Most stubborn hairs in my experience: Corners of lips (very deep), and scrotum (hormonal). They take a licking and sometimes keep ticking. For years. :mad:

Most painful areas: Eyelids, scrotum, peri-anal, and … knuckles of fingers and toes. MFERs!

Emla?Suck it up, bite down on a toungue depressor instead. :crazy:

Most embarassing moments: Unintentionally sporting an erection (happened only once) during treatment and breaking wind in the electrologists face (happened only once) while getting anus hairs treated. My apologies. :eek:

Downside to being completely hairless…as a guy… I honestly can’t remember what it’s like to have body hair. Life is much easier now. HOWEVER … If I’m wearing shorts in public or even in a semi-private setting like physical therapy, I get stared at. Mostly by women. They say my legs “glow,” whatever the hell that means. At my annual checkups, my doctors stare at my junk. Guys will do a double take on my face ("Where’s the stubble?? and “Dude plucks his eyebrows!”) Everybody !@#$ing stares at me. So … I don’t wear shorts anymore if I can help it. :blush: My wife likes to run her hands over my armpits. She admits she is insanely jealous of them. It gets annoying after a while. Did I mention that I went to a massage therapist not too long ago, and she lingered on my legs just a little too long? :cool:

Funniest and most frequently asked question asked of me by electrologists: “So, uh, are you gonna get a sex change after all of this?” (Not meant to be a knock on TG folks here).

You know when you’re reaching the end of the treatment road when… … your electrologists spends more time hunting for hairs, or digging out dead ingrowns, than actually removing hairs.

To folks undertaking treatment … and maybe feeling a little overwhelmed, take heart. If you have the willpower, persistence, and the resources … stick with it. Electrolysis works.

That’s most of my rambling thoughts for now … I’d post pictures of the results, but, I am a fairly modest fellow. Just take my word for it.

Haha, your embarrassing moment story is hilarious. Especially the passing of gas right in your electrologist’s face. I would have to switch electrologists after something that humiliating for sure. Now I won’t feel so embarrassed when I have to sneeze or something. :stuck_out_tongue:

Thank you so much for the feedback. Can you tell us how long it took to finish each area (on average)? Did you find that it was about a year per area, or a few years per area?

MagicalPrincessKitty … I just don’t know how to answer that question. Because I believe I would have completed treatment a little sooner if I went to a good electrologist in the beginning. And I didn’t work on all areas all at once. Also, I didn’t have a lot of hair per square inch, but my hair was dark and coarse. Also … I’m a guy. A female might take a lot less time than I did.

Just use this as a rough estimate … YMMV!

Remember - these are expressed in terms of weekly visits. I started out with several hour appointments (3 hours!) … and taper down to 15 minute appointments.

Lips and chin: Will vary, but 1-2 years.

Legs: In treatment hours, not much more than a year, but because leg follicles have such long dormancy phases, you could be cleaning up for a few years after the main treatment.

Arms: A year or less.

Nutz n butz: Butz goes faster than nutz. lol. Seriously, the peri-anal area goes fairly quickly. How quickly? How much pain can you take? lol. The “bikini” area north of the genitals and inside the thighs can be defoliated in a year with weekly treatments. Due to the irregular topology of the genitals, and the hormonal influence, the genitals can take years as well, at least for guys.

Armpits (aka “axillae”): … 1-2 years. The coarse hairs go quickly, but hairs tend to get ingrown in this area.

Well, even as estimates, that still is very helpful. When you said you started in '04, I assumed you finished fairly recently and was worried you were going to say some areas took you the entire 6 years!

Thanks!

I would be curious to know how many hours as well (for obvious reasons.)

Thank-you for sharing - “yikes and yowies!” re: some of those areas you’ve had done.

For the sake of showing my battle lessons :wink: I’ve found the most painful parts are on the tummy below the belly button, I’m very ticklish there, close to the armpits front or back (I’m not doing in there), the knuckles and the middle of the top lip.

MPK - I guess I forgot to mention … getting the majority of the hair gone in most areas doesn’t take that long (up to a year).

Mopping up sprouts after major combat operations are over can take a few years. Hairs are like that.

I elected to get rid of every single visible hair on every square inch of my torso, groin, and legs. The aggressiveness of my treatment may be atypical.

Some people are just happy if they can get away with reduced shaving.

I’ve been told that as you get older, your hormones kick in and produce even more hair. So further mopping up may be necessary. Assuming there are any follicles left to grow hair.

Vickie,

I confess to losing track of my hours spent on each area. I guess I just got lazy.

If I had hair, I went.

If you had to guesstimate hours/years, then assume an average of one hour weekly visits. So if an area takes a year or so, that’s 52 hours.

Please don’t let the math overwhelm you. Take each treatment a day at a time.

Like I said, your desired results may happen a lot faster than mine. Admittedly, I went to an extreme … I really look like a plucked chicken now.

Now you know the real reason we wear those face masks! :wink:

Now you know the real reason we wear those face masks! :wink: [/quote]

James, I vividly remember sitting through 3 hours of treatment at a time, gritting my teeth, the paper sheets on the table drenched with sweat.

I said to myself, “I will look back on all of this and laugh my arse off.”

I am lol-ing right now.

heyy do you mind posting where you’re from? I’m from Toronto and I’m looking for someone who is competent but haven’t had any luck. Your electrologist sounds like a Godsend!

My clients have all voted for cloth sheets for years. I stopped poling them on it. Most industry people would rather pay for unpopular paper rolls, in order to aligh themselves with doctor’s offices, (and give up a few more quarters per treatment to unneeded expenses) rather than get cloth sheets, and a washer that has “Sanitizer” mode and washes the office sheets at 150 degrees like they do in the hospitals.

Awesome awesome post. What color is your skin on the 1-6 scale? Did you now have much back hair? I also have some ingrowns from electrolysis. Do you now have smooth skin everywhere? Can you PM me your phone number or call me if I PM you mine?!

Thanks.

Not sure I can help out … I am in the New York City tri-state metropolitan area (U.S.).

Word of mouth and electrology associations are very helpful.

I am type II (light-skinned) on the scale that I think you’re referring to.

I did not have much back hair at all.

I am smooth all over, freakishly so. :whistle:

I am really not trying to brag, but you know you’re smooth when your CPE tells you she wishes she had your legs or when you catch them trying to cop a quick feel of a treated area with their bare wrists. I **** you not.

Please feel free to send any questions in a private message. I’ll try to reply ASAP.

Can you post a list of all the electrologists that you have ever seen and rate them? Or just list your top 2?

What percent of your treatment to date has been blend, thermolysis and galvanic respectively?

Thanks.

Tembo,

I’ll list a few here. These ladies work on all body parts.

Arlene Batz Queens, NY.
http://breierhairremovalandskincare.com/

Arlene did a lot of the heavy lifting. She’s the only blend practitioner that I used in the NYC area. She’s got KILLER magnification lenses, so she’s great for fine hairs too. I did 1/2 blend and 1/2 thermolysis with her. Hours? I just don’t remember. Hundreds. The longest appointments were 2-3 hours, the shortest 30 minutes.

Danna Homburger Upper West Side, NYC.
http://www.dannahomburger.com/

Danna did some clean up for me when I couldn’t see my regular electrologists. She’s not a CPE, but she’s damn good at what she does. I did 100% thermolysis with her. She also does laser, but I did not get laser treatment from her.

Note to Andrea: She’d be a good addition to your regional practitioner list - I don’t see her listed.

Phyllis Langberg and Rebecca Weinstein. Upper Westchester County, NY.
http://www.justbetweenuselectrolysis.com/

I dropped in on this mother/daughter team when I was in the area (after my physical therapy appointments). Very good results from them as well. Thermolysis.

These are my opinions, your mileage may vary!

Thanks, just noticed this response. I don’t come here often and forgot I asked you that question before.

I though I was the most persistant man who is not a transexual when it comes to hair removal. You have me beat by a long way!