What kind of scopes do you and james have?
What is it called? And where can I find it?
James likes the Zeiss Opmi line of medical stereo microscopes. They have the best combination of lighting and adjustablility in magnification and lighting intensity. They just happen to be very expensive, and unless you find a doctor, or dentist’s going out of business sale, you are not likely to find one. Of course, one could haunt Ebay, and the used medical sources for them.
One could get lucky.
I have seen the same scope James has for as low as $2000 on eBay and Craigslist, but it took an extraordinary amount of searching and luck.
My scope was $600, and it took 4 months of searching around to finally get one. It is 27 years old, larger and a bit kludgier than James’. But compared to every other option I have tried, it is a true night and day difference and I would never want to go back.
Ok,
So it’s been a while…have been very busy lately.
Now I have a question…
Is it possible of gradually killing a hair? What I mean is that I have come up with the idea of using my own machine in between treatments without high power on the hairs that will be treated by my electrologist (once every 6 weeks)…
I use low (galvanic) power as I do not want any skin problems and leave the hair inside the follicle so it is treatable when I go to my electrologist again…My hair isn’t dense so I can see which ones I treated…
My question is, if I use some low power galvanic, that won’t kill the hair the first time, every week on the same hairs without pulling them out…Can I gradually kill them?
This seems like a safe method to me, without screwing up the treatment area for my electrologist or my own skin…
Toeman, if you find ways to reduce the diameter (thickness, size) of the hair deliberately, I pray thee, pass me the key.
I have some crazy customers to reduce the length of the hairs of his eyebrows. But the risk of permanent “bald” get in return is unaffordable for me.
If you discover how to return these people who had eyebrows 10 years, you have revolutionized the market for Electrolysis. 
That is an answer to a completely different question…
I am asking if I can gradually kill it by treating the same hair every week with lower treatment energy.
So I don’t pull it out but leave it there and next time again give it a zapp…
Maybe James, vicky or Dee have some input?
The opinion of one Spanish is not very well received, eh?
Do not worry, it happens.
What I have tried to make you understand, is that the hair (regardless of where that it is located), is susceptible to be removed. But I have no news that may be voluntarily reduced by the electrologist or other people.
There are progressive hair removal systems that do not seem to be very effective, because time is responsible to return the hair its initial thickness.
The only way to get a vulnerability in the follicles, is treating the adjacent area. The inflammation that has affected the work area, then our job easier.
Indeed, it is likely that the hair falls just within a few days after being treated with low intensity.
All you’re going to get, is that the hair guide can not be treated by your electrologist. Because it has not had time to return or because you have permanently removed.
Ofcourse your Spanish input is appreciated.
I guess my message was not well received 
Your input is always appreciated Depilacionelectr.
So what you’re saying is that it will fall out?
Yes! it is likely to happen. The hair will fall by itself. It is possible that hangs a few days if a small crust on the skin surface. But when that crust it is “fall” out, hair down beside the crust.
If it falls out, isn’t it dead then? Because the ones I undertreated never fall out…
If the operator has applied galvanic current within a follicle, the chemical reaction function.
It is possible that the amount of lye is insufficient to damage the entire anchorage area of hair. So the hair will not come off right at that moment.
But the response of our body is warning that something has happened. The skin will make its protective role. Try to repair the minor damage caused. Throwing out the “treated” hair in a few days and then producing a new anagen hair.
These undertreated follicles usually shows signs of a tiny infection (redness, swelling, etc). Maybe get the opposite of what you’re wanting for your skin.
A big hug from Spain.
Josefa
Toeman, I too would like to hear other electrologist:
Barbara, Christine, Vickie,…,…,… and… James. Please, if someone has something to say, his words would be most welcome.
PD: Sorry James (The ladies in alphabetical order before the Lord). 
Here is a perspective from Dee the Electrologist:
If we could see under the skin and observe how much of the tissue was destroyed or how much of the blood supply to the hair was destroyed, then we could give you a better answer. This is close to what we call the breaking down process where the hair diminishes with each pass of the current and becomes, over time, a miniature portion of the thick hair we started with. It’s better to treat the hair with enough energy and timing to do it in for good the first time while protecting the upper layer of skin. All the action should take place deeper so as to leave on with minimal to no temporary side effects, if possible. If you can’t get this outcome from your electrologist even though she is trying very hard to please you, then okay. Under treating a hair with low galvanic seems like a waste of time to me. If you want to try this, then I would be very interested in your feedback. Maybe you will discover something helpful, toeman. It’s a concept that could work, I suppose.
Dee
An exhibition correct, excellent, flawless, grand, magnificent, perfect, splendid, sublime, superb, unbeatable and… wonderful.
I think this time I do not forget anything … at least nothing important. How could I be so stupid to forget to mention the “D” and A with Arlene?
Sorry
I see,
Because I was thinking…The hairs are quite thick and they release with a galvanic current of 0.6mA after like 30 seconds (really strong ones) Now I do not like to do that to my skin…I like 0.1 or 0.2 for my skin…there is almost no reaction, even after 2 minutes of zapping a hair…
BUT it is hard to get a bulb and sheath then…So my thought was to attack them with a low current of 0.1 to 0.2 for about 2 minutes and leave them there…Then next week attack them again with the same current…
It is an interesting idea, though I would try and eliminate the hair the first time you treat it.
Just as an experiment, I would do is adjust the power down, maybe to 0.3mA, and increase the time slightly to 60 seconds. It should, (in theory) make as much lye in the follicle as 0.6mA and 30sec.
Or, you might want to vary your insertion a bit up or down, and/or use a larger needle to ensure better contact within the follicle. Another strategy I would try is applying half your treatment at what feels like full anagen depth, then moving the needle up the follicle slightly and applying the rest of the treatment; I use a variation of this using thermolysis on thick and distorted hairs on myself.
Remember, you won’t get a bulb and sheath each time, and in some areas you might not find many at a given time. You might be encountering some deep catagen hairs that will not come out easily.
The Toeman machine operates at 40 MHz frequency.
Vickie, perhaps the amount of lye that produces differ?
you think so?
Ask me?
I would almost certainly yes.
Is bound to be difference. How it would not be?
My first machine Blend was operating (3.5 MHz)(if I remember correctly).
I was used to Thermolysis (625 KHz), so the news was very well received. I improved my mark in a couple of seconds per hair. But both currents interfere among themselves and with any external power source, including my own hands.
After I bought a new machine (13.56 MHZ). With an output of 2 mA of Galvanic and without limit of time in seconds. It allowed me to relax to the monitoring of external interference. And I improved my own mark in 5 tenths of a second.
Currently working with “Ferrari” Electrolysis machines. The almighty Apilus Platinum (27 MHz). For me, working the Blend has passed into history. In the body and Multiplex, you would need an eagle eye for spotting my hands working.
So yes, I think the frequency is of vital importance to compare parameters between two different machines.
However, I assure you, Toeman, I would not mind the 40 MHz to prove that you have in yours. Perhaps I can reach the speed of light … or better if the record of Mr. Gior.
I have 2 questions:
A) the tiny scabs I get after a follicle is treated. How come?
Is it the needle burning the skin? Or is it the residual lye plopping out of the follicle which stays there and eats away a tiny bit of skin?
I think it is the last possibility as the scabs appear after quite a while and I know lye also does it’s job afterwards…
B) I saw a fascinating thing today…I had a follicle with a tiny scab and I very gently cleaned the area and by accident the scab came off and it lookid like something was in the follicle so I gently rubbed it and you know what? A dried up rootsheath came out. Completely intact without the hair (which had been pulled out during treatment).
Now I went on and investigated the sheath from up close.
I saw that even without the hair and it’s black bulb the root sheath had a black bottom. Also really bulb like…but without the hair…
Is this black core at the underside a burned and destroyed dermal papilla? As I know that should be the exact place where the papilla feeds the hair…
You are correct, it is residual lye making its wy to the surface and continuing to act causticly on the tissue.
The black spot you saw was the connection point of the blood suply to the hair and papilla. The rest of the papilla was removed with the hair, during treatment.