Anyone with experience with this machine? ?
I ahe never worked with it. But i have had 230 hours of treatment with a sequentium (and my first machine was a German stripped down clone of it).
What should i say? Probably computerized - one of the older “modern” devices. Capable of pulsed blend and fast thermolysis. IMO one of the old work horses. No need to abandon it if it is still in good condition.
Thanks B,
Trying to decide weather to sell the Apilus Jr. or the Sequentium. Is there a vast difference in the quality of these machines?
The Sequentium 328 and the Apilus Jr are both high quality 13.56mhz computerized epilators. Personally I would keep the unit that offers the most options and is engineered for ease of use. Simple menu trees and screen readability are concerns as well.
GOOD ADVICE , UNFORTUNATELY I AM TOO UNFAMILIAR WITH BOTH TO KNOW WHICH IS BETTER IN THAT REGARD. VERY NEWBIE PAIN
Both machines are equally effective, but many find the Apilus easier to use (while some find the Silhouet-Tones easier to use). Many find Apilus more comfortable in delivery of treatment energy.
The machines are almost neck and neck.
What would tip it to Apilus for me is they give much better product support. For one thing, I have never had a problem getting a replacement manual for someone who has an old Apilus.
[color:#333300]See James, I don’t think the machines are neck and neck. I know the ST Sequentium 328 does 1/1000ths “Superflash”. But now, the Junior, not Junior Plus, not Junior 3G, is from the Senior I Electropil era, with that flat style thinner body. And, I know the Apilus Senior I, it’s bigger brother, doesn’t do 1/1000ths, it can only get down to .01 second therm pulses.
So I’m thinking, the Apilus might be a more user friendly machine, but the Sequentium 328 is actually a lot more technically advance and capable. I’m guessing the machines are no more than two years apart. The 328 functions on 75 Watts, I’m guessing the Junior functions on about 100 Watts, is that an indicator of pulse power capability? I don’t know. Maybe just needed processor operating requirement.
I think the Sequentium 328 is above the Apilus Senior I, not to mention the Apilus Junior of that era (not the Plus or 3G).
This is the style we’re talking about, not the big new puffy Apilus plastic bodies:
kind of like talking vintage cars huh?
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While I do have actual experience working on Silhouet-Tones down to the ST-250 level, My Apilus backwards compatibility experience goes back to limited use of the Senior One.
So it is possible that the 328 is more versatile. It has been more than ten years since I worked with the older ST’s.
You are correct, it is like talking vintage cars. “Is this the year the Nissan Altima had the heads up display dash display that showed the gauge info on the windscreen as you drove without looking down at the actual dash?”
…as well as the old Junior, which i still use regularly side by side with my Platinum. But how much does such a difference matter? What i do not like on the Apilus Junior (and, btw. the Platinum as well) it its limitation of HF current in traditional blend mode which is a lot lower than the limitation of HF in slow thermolysis. Unreasonable regarding the adjustment of blend signals as given by Hinkel or described in Michael’s book.
What i do not like with the Junior either is the too long and non adjustable time interval between two flash pulses which can be overcome only by using tricks.
So i would check both machines not only for their raw technical data but really closely look at the details of their implementation. At least with machines of this class these details affect the possibilitis in real treatments more than the minimal length of flash pulses.
[color:#006600]Thank you Beate,
Just a correction of my own post: Silhouet-Tone refers to 1/1000ths of a second as “HyerFlash”, and 1/100ths of a second as “SuperFlash”.
It uses the “HyperFlash” in a programmed routine that delivers a quick pulse, followed by two differently modulated thermolysis pulses, all chained together, in rapid continous succession. ST calls this “Sequential Thermolysis”. Anybody familiar with Silhouet Tone knows they have quite a few theories about chained together modulated currents with both blend and therm. Some of which I have used, and have been annoyed at the length of time the programme takes to complete, but of which I may go back and experiment with on some ingrowns.
I just wonder if it’s similar to the Apilus “Multiplex” delivery. I’ve never really read anything on Multiplex. I would think it’s similar.
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Hi Mantaray, as far as i have understood the concept of sequential thermolysis the concept behind Apils’ Multiplex (and, btw. Evuloblend) is just the other way around: a week signal pre-weakening the tissue finalized by “the big hammer” - a short and heavy pulse which thanks pre weakening does not be as strong as in pure flash. Which ist true if You compare Multiplex and the simple flash modes (Picoflash and Mikroflash in Apilus-speak).
Apilus publishes oscilloscope images from that signal which show that unlike the micro/pico/synchro pulses there is no stable phase in the pre weakening stage of Multiplex - which can be verified. I have no idea how that would affect the treatment. (should i mention that i prefer synchro mode as the default and use multiplex or flash or even pulsed blend only in special situations?)
BTW: that’s why i suggested Multiplex as an alternative to blend in the removal of telangiectasia: the insertion is done during the pre-weakening phase.
Back to Danika: You should try out all modalities of both machines. And keep the one You feel more familiar with.
Beate,
I have a client moving to Germany in 8 weeks. Are you close to Swinehart? I need to look up the spelling, sorry, but take it for what it is now! he!he!
For those without Synchro in Apilus, program PicoFlash bursts of 002 milliseconds 99% and 9 pulses have an effect or similar result.
Oh, boy - I just texted my client - it’s [size:17pt]Schweinf[/size]urt.
Are you close to this city?
Oh, never mind Beate. I googled it and you are 126 km or 78 miles from this client. If you don’t mind, can you private message me with your contact information so I can give it to her? I am using Synchro on her chin and can give you more detail if you want, pictures included. She has had two full clearances so far.
Mhmm, it is actually almost 200 km to my office in Gustavsburg. But anyway, i am prepared for sessions long enough to make treatments despite that distance economically meaningful (recently i did a 4 hour job without the need of any rest). BTW, she would not be my first client from Schweinfurt…
That’s still a doable distance. She is moving in eight weeks and I will work on her about a week before she leaves, so she will need another appointment around the middle of January. I will send pictures and levels I used. Of course, you may decide that a different strategy is best for her. Thanks Beate! I’m relieved to know that she will be in great hands with you. She is a very sweet young lady.
Thanks very much, Dee!
Well, it is always welcome to know on the details of a previous treatment.