Wikipedia has a very brief and very factual page regarding rosehip oil. Here are the two most helpful paragraphs:
Caith - thanks! Are you going to try this?
Mr. Bono:
Yes, we can move on, but so you are aware, have you heard me give huge standing ovations to the Silhouet-Tone VMC. I have mentioned this epilator in several posts over the years and have actually used it for three years in the past. It is a real workhorse and treatments were very comfortable for my clients. Skin reaction was very good. I used an SX-500 Apilus for a very short time as well - totally good. My two years with my digital Gentronics - all fine. Multi-probe was fun and effective, but too slow for me. By the way, I’m anything but politically correct. I truly mean it when I say all units work because it is the undeniable truth.
As for your name dropping, I have heard from various sources that Fino was a god (and still is) and was quicker than a trigger with his treatments, but I had also heard that the skin reaction was very, very rough. I don’t know about Harvey’s work. Did it all heal nicely in the very end?- yes indeed!!! They disabled hair follicles, but my point is and has always been, a consumer can have it all - disabled hair follicles and minimal side effects that clear up quickly, leading to permanent hair removal with great skin in the end.
I tend to think it is a real service as opposed to a disservice, as you say, to others to tout the benefits of using an Apilus Platinum as I have been doing so since 2007. Both electrologist and hair consumers can make up their own minds as whether I’m full of hooey. It is honest, helpful feedback that I intend to share with consumers and other electrologists. Why would anyone bother to come to a hair removal forum if all the electrologists thought with one mind about aftercare, epilator choice, vision aid choice, lighting choices? I wouldn’t waste my time, as a consumer or professional coming here, if there few specifics and one common group think happening, going on here.
Consumers on this board and others have always been welcomed and encouraged to tout their brand epilators and strategies. Where are they? Come forth and share. I know what I use and I know what I can do and I share information honestly and charge no consultation fee. What a give away! Just tell the possibilities and the consumer can jot some things down and go about their agenda to think, compare and decide as to what works out best for them. I think we still have a free market place, don’t we?
So what about the anesthetic question I asked? How long did you work with the so called radical new technology? Actually, what does that mean to you? Was it an Apilus product or something else?
We disagree again. I don’t think this has been a bore. I enjoy such discussions with my dear colleagues.
Love,
Dee
Dee - It may well have been me because I can’t stop raving about it! I initially bought it for my sister’s acne scars and hands which seem to have some kind of eczema. I always buy a few dropper bottles and made out a few - one for her and one for me initially and since then given some to friends and relatives.
Where I have used it:
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You may remember I wrote about a crazy reaction I experienced on my upper lip in March. I woke up with a completely swollen, very red and crusty (from weeping) upper lip. It was horrible. I even had to go and visit my cousin that day who had just had a baby and when I made reference to it she was like “Well… I didn’t want to be rude and point it out but what on earth happened?!”
I left it alone until it all went down but was left with pigmentation from it. I then began religiously rubbing in a drop of rosehip oil every night and the pigmentation faded in 4-6 weeks. Right now, you’d never guess how bad it was looking 10 weeks ago. A point to note is that after my acne was no longer active, it took two years for the brown pigmentation to completely disappear. My skin pigments easily and it lasts a long time usually. -
Surgery scar. I had surgery in summer 2009. I didn’t apply anything post surgery. Towards the end of 2010, I started applying Bio Oil which faded it somewhat. When I bought the rosehip, I switched and have seen a dramatic improvement. It’s almost faded completely in a few areas.
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Also in March, I trialled a new electrologist who uses thermolysis only. I had an hour appointment and asked for some different areas to be treated to test the skin reaction. I had just a few minutes and 10-15 hairs treated on the chest between the breasts. The follicles came up red and a bumpy. I was very careful with the area in terms of washing and clothing. It then became very itchy and then started turning brown… and browner… until there was a large patch of brown/purple skin that was hard to the touch. I started applying Rosehip daily there as well and all but a small patch has completely cleared.
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Since it’s been so amazing, I use it daily on my face. After showering, I always spritz my face with witch hazel floral water (hydrolat) as a toner. After it’s dry I take a cotton pad, dampen it with the witch hazel and then drop a drop of rosehip on it. I then wipe this around my face before moisturising. It has made my skin smooth, even toned and brighter.
Chewie, once you feel you can put something on the scabs without making them worse, do try it.
Wow! Great detail. I have a brown spot from an old bug bite that will not fade. I am going to try this.
I have selected and printed yours and Caith’s posts and will try and observe. Does it have a pleasant scent?
Also, I am very touched by your obvious love for your sister. You have a motherly love for her, even though you are sisters. That’s so fine and rare.
I’m the eldest of six and somewhat of a stand in mother, at least I was when they were growing up 
They probably don’t even remember now!
I cannot describe the scent at this moment. I think that I have become used to it so it no longer stands out. I will take a whiff when I return home tonight (currently visiting my parents and siblings) and make an attempt to describe it. The consistency is not viscous and the colour is almost transparent.
I do hope it works for your bug bite.
Chewbacca - maybe for your neck, etc?
Dee, would you recommend not waiting for three days to apply the tea tree oil? Or would you get the same results.
You use the Tea Tree Oil during the first 3 days after treatment. This is how you avoid/minimize scabbing and white pustules. It just speeds the healing process.
Chewie,Have you thought about trying Laurier insulated probes? Everyone using them here seem impressed with the reduced skin reaction,they may prevent future irritations. What do those who have trialled them think?
Hi Stoppit
Please could you tell me where you buy the Rosehip Seed Oil from? I have some pigmentation on my upper lip and it sounds like the oil might help! Thanks
I’m a staunch supporter of the Laurier IBP, for both the reduced surface skin reaction and the treatment results.
Hi Marigold,
I buy it from here: http://www.naturallythinking.com/products/Rosehip-Carrier-Oil-%252d-Special-Offer-Cold-Pressed.html
And I transfer the Oils into dropper bottles for everyday use:
http://www.naturallythinking.com/categories/Bottles-%26-Jars/Glass-Dropper-Bottles/
I discovered this website about 2 years ago when I was looking for Rose Water. So far I have bought that, Witch Hazel Water, Tea Tree Oil, Rosehip Oil and one of their moisturisers. I’ve been very impressed with their products, even the moisturiser. Very good quality.
I live not far from Carshalton where they are based; they are famous for their carshalton lavender. When I was taking driving lessons, I found out my instructor used to be a beauty therapist and they would use products from this shop. I also noticed their products in Eastenders since!
I would recommend buying online if you can. The shop is just a business front (where you can pick up online orders), they don’t stock all the products and have strange opening times.
Dee - the scent is described as slightly chip fatty. I would agree with that. It is mild in strength compared to tea tree oil. I don’t think you will smell it very much if you’re just applying a drop or two. I used to apply Olive Oil to my face and that was more noticeable.
Thank you very much Stoppit! I shall buy it straight away!
Let us know how you get on
I really hope people find it helps them as it has helped me. Hopefully then it can be a product we can confidently recommend for pigmentation issues.
It’s been a while since I’ve been able to get back on here and respond, considering I’ve been working the past couple of days. I see there is a lot of debate on treatment expectations. I can’t say I have enough experience with electrolysis to know what is considered normal and what is considered poor treatment. I try my best to read through the forums and take advice from those that have more experience. I just truly hope that with the embarrassment I am going through now, I am getting effective treatments. It would be so much easier to cope with this situation if I knew for sure that there was a light at the end of the tunnel.
I’ve read success stories on here, which has kept me motivated to keep trying, but I’ve also read a lot of failure stories of people going for years without results. I don’t want to be one of those people!
I notice the pattern with the failure cases are – 1. blame the electrologists skill 2. Inadequate frequency and duration of treatments and 3. hormones.
For one, I find it completely unfair that incompetent electrologist can continue to practice, but that can be said about a variety of professions. I think maybe there should be additional training involved to keep them up to par. I find from personal experience and from reading on this board that there seem to be very few electrologist around that can get the job done right and it is like searching for a needle in a haystack.
Secondly, I understand that out of control hormones can cause “new” hair to emerge while someone is undergoing electrolysis, but to the extent that the amount of hair never looks like it is decreasing? I’ve read the experts claim that once a person with hormone issues reaches completion, they may have to come in for touch ups every couple of months to kill “new” hair. Yet, with some of the failure stories on here, sometimes the advice given is that they aren’t reaching completion because of their hormones. I’m so confused?
I find it interesting and helpful to read through the opposing ideas and opinions on here regarding post treatment reactions, aftercare, etc. I had to laugh when follizap said it would be impossible to keep things hidden unless we were to walk around with a bag over our head, because that is honestly what I feel like doing! It’s actually more sad than funny, but there becomes a point where you just have to laugh at how ridiculous it is to undergo hair removal and attempt to live a normal life. It feels as though I’m either cursed with the embarrassment of hair or the embarrassment of discoloration, scabs, marks, skin trauma, etc. I can definitely see why a person falls victim to laser, because I used to be able to lead a normal life between treatments and my skin would always come out looking healthy. It is just very frustrating that it only made this hair situation ten times worse in the end and it still baffles me that laser will reduce hair in some areas but stimulates hair in others.
I wish I knew of an electrologist around my area that could perform treatments with a minimal skin reaction, such as Dee, James, etc. say they can do. It is hard to believe it is possible when I’ve only experienced treatments that have left me looking diseased for a couple of days to a week later. Except for the one electrologist I went to that plucked nearly 70% of the hairs, but she was probably barely treating the hairs, hence the no skin reaction.
To me it makes sense to expect the area to somewhat look like crap, being you are burning the follicle/skin area. If it is possible to come out looking close to normal after treatment I would love that, but I think that there are too few electrologist that can make that happen if possible with effective treatment.
This whole process really does in fact suck. Tomorrow is my next treatment with the newest electrologist and my skin is close to what it looked like before, but there are still pin prick marks noticeable in the area, though no more scabs. That would mean 10 days to recover and weekly to biweekly appointments in the beginning are recommended, right? I will ask her to turn her settings down tomorrow, but I still feel as though there will be no normalcy in my life for the next couple of months at this rate and that is if this is even working for me. I’m definitely not the confident type of person to be able to admit to others that I’m undergoing electrolysis and that I have a manly beard going on.
The rose hip oil looks promising and I may try that as it has been working for others on this board. I’m willing to try anything to get my skin to look better. I try to keep up with the recommended advice for aftercare, but after a couple of days I have to resort to wearing a turtleneck with about five layers of makeup so I can get through the day at work. I’m sure I look pretty ridiculous and I’m sure it probably isn’t recommended to wear clothing over the area if there are still scabs, but seriously, how else am I suppose to get by?
As far as the recommendation on Laurier insulated probes – I would image it would be hard to suggest this, being that the electrologist’s I’ve seen so far seem to be stuck in their ways. I asked one what type of electrolysis she did (blend, thermolysis, etc.) and she seemed a bit irritated as though I was questioning her work and being a nuisance. It wouldn’t hurt to ask, though and I may just do that.
Anyways, sorry if I tend to rant a bit in this post, but getting on here helps me get through my frustration. I really appreciate everyones comments and suggestions and I’m learning a bit more day by day through this forum. It has helped a ton!
You’re not ranting, and all the things you describe are pretty much the truth and reality of the matter. Don’t give up, you’re doing the right thing, evaluating different electrologists. Unfortunately, that requires time and patience, and I know you’ve already expended a LOT of both.
Don’t give up, I’m certain you’ll find what you need.
Hi chewy I’m glad my silly comment made you laugh, that was my intention. I have been through the process of beard removal myself and it can feel like it’s never going to end but it does and when you look back you’ll realise that it wasn’t so bad and the time taken was well worth it. Stay focused, keep your regular appointments and you will be hair free.
Best Wishes
I had another appointment today and I told my electrologist that I stayed pretty red and bumpy for a long time with the last treatment and asked if she could try a lower setting this time. She seemed a bit hesitant and said, “well, you need to have a certain amount of heat in order to kill the hair.” I still persisted and asked if we could try and see how it would work.
This time I am left with less of a reaction, which is good. There is still quite a bit of redness and pinprick areas where the probe was obviously inserted. The downfall this session was I noticed she had to reinsert the probe multiple times in some hairs and I felt more plucking and tugging. Now I’m confused whether I should just suck it up and take the higher settings, as they seem to be more effective or if this route is in fact killing any of the hairs? This seems like a never ending battle to get things right!
Caith721 – I’ve followed your posts before. How are things looking for you? It looks like you found yourself an amazing electrologist! Thank you for the support!
follizap – It does feel like it is never going to end! The worst part for me is never truly knowing if I’m getting proper treatment. I want these hairs killed for good! I’d be more willing to accept the crappy skin reactions if I knew for a fact that I was getting proper treatment and if I knew for a fact that I will see results in the near future. I’m going to be so pissed if I spend all of this time and money to end up with a beard thicker than my fathers and hamburger meat skin! UGH! Lol, thank you for the support follizap. How long have you been doing electrolysis?
Hi chewy I had my first experience actually doing electrolysis roughly three years ago using a Sterex machine to clear my chest area. Once I was happy the machine was stored in a cupboard and not touched again for some considerable time. I took it out and dusted it off not so long ago and started practising with it but I found it painful to use and I wouldn’t be happy using it on somebody else. I have since purchased an Apilus which is immeasurably better.
I haven’t actually kept track of the hours I’ve put in so far but my studio will be ready soon now and I’ll be working hard to get my hours up, improve my technique and explore the machines capabilities. I have guinea pigs lining up for free treatment so I should be happily busy for some time to come.
Best wishes
I did have a fair amount of light scabbing during my own beard removal process but I have been left scar free and hair free so I’m happy and it is pretty well a distant memory.
follizap – Did you do your own facial work? I hear that is risky. How long did it take you to get done? Congrats on the new studio!