I wrote a previous post on here explaining my situation,but basically what I would like to know is,if I get electrolysis without first regulating my hormones is the hair I get rid of with the electrolysis gonna come back or not?
The hair I wanna get rid of is the hair on top of both of my cheeks around the eye area its velus hair but still kinda noticeable and slightly dark I estimate I have around 50 hairs give or take,also have some velus hairs around my chin area and some coarse dark ones their,the coarse dark ones are the ones I want gone,I think I have around the same as the cheeks their of dark hairs.than finally on the right side of my upper lip I have around 10 hairs I wanna get rid of.
How long will it take to kill all this hairs and approximately how much will it be to get rid of them?
And would getting on birth control pills make much of a difference in them?
Follicles that have been killed will not grow back prettylips.
They don’t re-generate.
Any given electrolysist will have a kill rate that depends on their skill, let’s say 85%-95%. The hairs that are not killed on treatment will re grow. Those that are killed outright will not.
The cohort of hairs that are present above the skin at the time of any given treatment will be replaced by the next and the next and so on. Going through all the cohorts will take at least a year and maybe a lot more depending on numbers.
The hormonal background contributes to your hair situation by stimulating previously dormant follicles to burst into life.
It would therefore be preferable to have your medical control in place before embarking on treatment. In fact, maybe it would be better to wait until your treatment has bedded in to see what difference it will make to your hair growth.
This is my way of explaining it, maybe others will be able to help some more.
June
Cherrytree, when you say a “kill rate” of 85-95%, is that referring to each clearance?
The electrologist I was seeing said that the results I could expect was a decrease that went something like: the first round of hairs zapped might only kill 10% and the rest will return. The next round might kill 40%, and the rest will return. So as we keep going through rounds and zapping follicles, they’ll keep decreasing until they are all dead.
The percentages in the example weren’t based on her experience or observations, but just random number examples to give me the “big picture”. Is that inaccurate? Should she be expecting a lot more follicles to be killed if the treatments are done correctly?
Some electrologists give that explanation since it’s a bit simpler than trying to explain hair cycles to people. It is technically inaccurate but it’s easier to say it that way
And unfortunately, some electrologists give that explanation because that is real result of their work. Especially if they only believe it is possible, or try to kill follicles in anagen.
@cherrytree Im not sure what cohorts are?
and so does that mean if i have say 3 dark hairs in the chin area that once they get zapped with the electrolysis they will get killed and new hair wont grow back in those same follicles anymore?im confused.
Also I believe that the dark hairs i have are from me plucking velus hairs i had their so I dont think they would grow back even if my hormones arent balance as long as i dont pluck or wax that area again.and again the velus hairs dont bother me as much as the dark coarse ones.
Anyways i really want to go to an electrolysis already
and it would be nice if I got some guidance from some one with experience on this on here,on what to expect,realistic expectations.As well as how to find a good one and minimize or prevent any adverse permanent effects.
It seems to me you’ve already gotten pretty good guidance on what to expect. As for how to find a good electrolysist, ask around for referrals, and make appointments to see the 5-6 that come best recommended for short periods ( 1/2 hour or so) . Then when you are done, pick the one you like best. It really is that simple.
Expect there will be some regrowth, and that any areas plucked or waxed will experience more regrowth because it can take 3 months or more for those hairs to regenerate and be available to eelectrolysis. Expect it will be a long process that will take over a year.Expect that there will be some skin reaction, and that reaction will vary on what part is being treated.
Seana
@Seana maybe to you this is all easy to understand but to me it’s confusing so im trying to ask as much questions as I can to understand this whole process better before I commit to something I don’t understand well.
The part I find confusing is,if the hair i get zapped on the first visit will begone permanently or grow back again,since people say it’s suppose to be permanent,if it does grow back again after the first zap,how many more zaps will it take to kill it permanently?
Another thing,If you have waxed or tweezed I hear that you have to wait a while for the hair to regenerate,is that true?
I have stopped waxing and plucking and am just trimming my chin for a week now,is it necessary to wait for the hair to regenerate or can I just get the electrolysis done without doing that and if so will it still work?
also how long will I have to wait for the hair to regenerate if I must?
At the moment I’m looking at some electrolysis in my area that are mentioned in this site. and thinking about going for a consult.
Waxing and tweezing usually means the hair has been removed by the root. This means the hair won’t show up again until the follicle is next active. But it doesn’t mean you can’t treat what is still growing!! Electrologists treat follicles with hairs in them.
So your first appointments will be dealing with what is growing. It’ll take around a year for all cycles of your hairs to grow through, so just be ready for the long haul.
With the permanent or grow back discussion, it’s hard to say. You can’t pinpoint any one follicle, find it in a year and say look there’s a hair growing there.
My advice is, find someone who is good at their job and stick with them for a year.
It might be worth doing a search on the forum or you can go to google, type in hairtell.com: in the search bar and add your search queries after the colon to search the site. You should be able to find information which answers your questions.
@ emilily Thank you for explaining it further
I have another question,I can only afford to go once every three months for 30 mins will that be enough to see results with the electrolysis or will I have to go sooner to see results? I don’t think I have too much facial hair in the chin area,the area I want to treat first.and the hairs I want gone is the coarse dark ones which I have around 50 hairs.So will going that amount of time be enough to see results?
and yeah the person Im considering seeing is mentioned on here in the referrals
also believe I saw a plastic surgeon that does electrolysis thats also in my area so wil look into him as well.
One last thing,will the electrolysis still work with out of balance hormones? I dont want to have to wait to get more expensive tests and wait for more meds to kick in to get this done.
Once every three months for 30 minutes depends on the amount of hair… It’ll get you something - if you look at the bottom of my signature, the numbers I have for body work achieved clearances in those areas…
Now, for face work: any little bit helps! When I first tried electrolysis, years ago, I didn’t have much money, as I was studying full time, working part time and had moved out of home. I did find it a struggle but I’ve always been pretty frugal… I don’t know your situation, of course, but if you can save on small things it might mean you’ve got more money for big things. E.g. making coffee at home instead of buying it out, cooking dinner at home instead of eating out (and buying groceries which are on special/sale), etc…
I’ve never had my hormones tested and I’ve found that laser treatments definitely worked for me. (on the other hand, I may not have hormonal imbalances)!
Whatever you decide to go, goodluck!!
Electrolysis will work whether or not your hormones are in balance. The difference is whether your system will stimulate other smalll velu hair to become terminal and become noticeable.
If properly killed, a hair folicle does not grow again…But other folicles do.
DONT TWEEZE OR WAX. Ever. What emilily said ! You are getting good advice. If you are only going rarely progess will be slower but you will still make progress. Prefereably, increase your frequency of treatment.
I’m an amatuer! Ok not completely but the Pros can give you better opinions.
Seana
@ emiliyly and Seana thanx 4 the info
Im still kinda debating whether to get on Spironalactone or birth control pills for the hair…and looks like the electrolysis I wanted to see is kinda far so might have to find another one…sighs.I don’t want to be on meds forever though and I heard mixed opinions about spironalactone helping with coarse facial hair…which is the area I most wanted for,though I do have body hair as well.hate how complicated it all seems.
Spiro doesnt make the hair go away. It prevents new ones from growing in previously dormant folicles
I saw on someones post that it did help them with the existing hairs that they had less.
ummm sort of not really?
I took spiro for close to a year ( I take cyperoatone ( androcur) now) . In areas other than the face/groin it will make hairs grow thinner and lighter. It wont do anything to reduce their number, but they become less noticeable. Int he face and groin there is no effect other than it helps prevent velus hairs from turning terminal and previously dormant follicles from suddenly deciding to produce a hair…
Seana