Shadow on upper lip from threading - HELP!!

Hello everyone!

I have always had a problem with too much hair on my upper lip, and I have tried almost EVERYTHING to get rid of it throughout the years (besides laser hair removal - I’m too broke for that!). But just recently, I learned about threading and thought I’d give it a try! It sounded so easy and best of all, you could do it at home! After the first time I tried it, I got wonderful results. My upper lip didn’t even have FUZZ on it! It was so smooth and soft. But today, I noticed that I have a slight shadow on my upper lip, but with few hairs visible. What is it?? Is this normal?? Can I get the color back to normal with bleaching creams?? PLEASE HELP! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Is ANYBODY going to respond to this??? PLEASE HELP! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Is the shadow from incoming hairs or is it your skin that has become darker? Skin or Hair?

It seems to be my skin… there isn’t even one hair on my upper lip at all. Just a shadow. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

If you continue threading, you will probably continue hyperpigmenting. Consider electrolysis; at least there will be an end to the hair growth and your skin might then be able to heal.

I agree with Arlene, threading is the same as waxing and plucking - it removes the hair from the root but because it’s on your face, will have the effect of making the hair grow back thicker. What I think could be happening is that the roots are getting darker and that is what is causing the shadow. They must be the hairs that haven’t surfaced yet.

I’m having electrolysis and now have very little hair on my upper lip. I spend £18 per week for half an hour treatment. I’m also having other areas of my face done so if you’re just having your upper lip done then I’m sure that it won’t take very long to clear.

Why not take a temporary weekend job to help pay for the treatments. It’s just not worth the stress that this is causing you.

I’m not a sales person or someone who does electrolysis so I have nothing to gain by recommending it. I have spent years trying other methods that don’t work or make the situation worse.

once again
waxing does not make the hair grown back thicker- even on the face.
I have never known anyone who threaded at home so Im not really sure what is causing the discoloration. If it is greyish or bluish it is probably one of two things- bruising or hairs that are growing in but havn’t surfaced yet. If it is skin toned, darker or lighter than your natural color, it is a pigmantation issue. For now I would try and use a mineral makeup to conceal, give the skin some time to recover and let the situation play out. Threading is not a permanent treatment so im betting that in a while hairs will surface and the colization will go down. If not I would try and seek a consultation with a dermatologist befor you go in for electrolysis which though effective does have some possible side effect including hypo/hyper pigmantation
good luck

When a hair is forcefully torn from the dermal papilla ( the part that nourishes the hair), the resulting injury causes an increased blood supply to rush to the area to feed and repair the injury to the structures in the follicle. It then follows, that over time, repeated waxing will cause hair to rebuild a deeper, stronger, darker hair to replace the one that was yanked out.

Waxing the face has unfortunate consequences. You are stripping the fine (vellous) hairs, that nobody really notices, along with the coarse dark hairs. Repeated waxing of these fine hairs causes it to coarsen and grow darker. What was not a problem before can now become a huge problem in the future. The face has the possible capacity of having 1,000 to 5,000 follicles per square inch by some accounts. Repeated waxing can and does cause a real disaster later on even if you stimulate only a fraction of those follicles. After any injury, including hair follicles, our body is programmed to defend and mend itself. When a good portion of the follicle is torn out each time, this causes the follicle to reconstruct itself a little sturdier and with a better developed capillary system. A good blood supply feeds hair.

As a professional electrologist, all of the said above translates into what I see on a daily basis. Women come to me years later with the real nightmare of coarse, dark, deep hair on their upper lip and chins that no longer respond to a simple waxing at their local hair salon. It is a real mess. It takes more time, higher intensity levels on my epilator and thus, may be more painful for the client as we battle through this forrest of hair. Within a year, we win the battle together to permanently destroy the hair and everybody is happy.

That is why it is advised here on hairtell, often, not to even start the waxing game on the face unless you are willing to pay the price later down the road.

Thanks to everyone for the helpful information and advice, I very much appreciate it. I will absolutely never thread my upper lip again. I was somewhat reserved about doing it in the first place, but I was so desperate to rid myself of the hairs that I went through with it anyway. I guess I’m paying the price now.

I would definitely like to try electrolysis, but I’m having trouble finding many places that do it in my city. There are quite a few places several cities over, but I don’t have my own car, and taking public transportation would be almost impossible. I did e-mail a laser hair removal clinic that seemed to yield pretty good results. I saw three photos on their website, and all three women basically had no hair on their faces. But I’m wondering if electrolysis would be better (and cheaper). They said that each treatment is about $115 session - does anyone think that is too costly? Should I keep looking around and go for electrolysis instead?

Before considering laser treatment I would read some of the posts in the laser section. Apparently laser can stimulate the growth of the fine hairs on your face so I definitely wouldn’t have that done as it seems that you don’t have much of a facial hair problem - just your upper lip.

If its totally impractical for you to go to a professional to have electrolysis due to your circumstances - you could try read about home electrolysis on the home page of hairfacts. Perhaps you could also ask some questions or go through old posts on the home electrolysis section to find out more. I have used google search and found an article by a transexual who used a home device and it seemed to work. I can’t remember where it was but read it out of interest. It seemed to be available in the US only though (not sure where you are). I’m in the UK so didn’t look into it any further. Its also not recommended by a lot of folk because you need to be able to insert the needle into the hair follicle - read it tho and see what you think…

I still think that waxing my face made the hair grow back thicker - especially those peach-skin-like soft hairs on the sides of my face. My beautician has told me that it has definitely made it worse and she said that you should never wax or pluck your face (unless its your eyebrows) because it will get worse in the long run. I’ve also read loads about the subject on the internet and it would appear that pulling the hair out from the root anywhere on your upper body will stimulate hair growth - something about circulation (you can read about that too). You get so many different opinions on the matter - the best thing to do is read up and come to your own conclusions.

Hi Dyson,

Shortly after reading your post I looked up some information on this message board and on the web about laser hair removal… and I will definitely not be having it done. I’ve read about too many cases where it simulates the fine hairs on the face and they become more obvious – as you stated yourself. That is certainly something I do not want to have to deal with…

I will start gathering up some information on home electrolysis as soon as possible. I completely forgot that even existed! lol I do live in the US, so maybe I can possibly locate that product you mentioned. It would certainly make things a lot easier for me.

You know, I never used to believe that waxing or plucking areas on the face or upper body would make the hair grow back thicker, but now I know that it is true. The hair on my upper hair has finally grown back… it’s a little thicker. Not REALLY thick, but I can tell the difference from the last time… it’s kind of depressing. I had short-term relief from the hair the first time I threaded, but it was definitely not worth it. I think I will try and see if I can find an article about that so I can show my friends. They wax and don’t believe it’ll make their facial hair any thicker!

Thanks so much for the helpful information! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Hi Mats,

Good luck and remember not to buy any of the scams that are out there. Just ask the forum beforehand if you’re not sure. I’ve bought loads of rubbish in the past - they’re all in the bin now. Money that I would have rather spent on proper electrolysis!

I’ve learnt the hard way and do my homework properly now.

You can tell your friends what you’ve found out and hope that they believe you but at the end of the day I’m sure that their facial hair doesn’t worry you as much as your own so don’t even bother trying to argue with them if they would prefer to believe the person who is making money out of selling them the wax or doing the waxing - that is their problem - they will learn eventually and by then you’ll be smiling.

Let me know how you get on.

Dx

Hi again,

This is the home electrolysis device that they say works http://www.folica.com/One_Touch_Hair__d105.html
It’s called One Touch.

I really can’t comment as I don’t think they sell them in the UK and there have been mixed responses to its use in the forum but its the positive feed back that I find very interesting! Sounds like it just might do the trick.

Dx

Hi Dyson,

Thanks, I will definitely be careful about what I purchase in the future. I know how many scam products are out here… I have even bought a few of them, too. It’s always so frustrating when you put your money and trust into a product and then it doesn’t work. But if I’m ever in doubt about any product I’m considering using, I will certainly get the advice of all you nice folks first. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

As for my friends, I agree with you. I really shouldn’t waste my time trying to convince them of anything - my own personal hair problem is definitely more important to me. They will eventually find out the truth on there own – the hard way – and I certainly hope by then I will be smiling a big smile!

I just checked out that product you posted a link to – it looks very interesting! I’m not completely sure about it, since I’ve read some pretty negative results from some of the users of the product themselves, but I read some very positive results too, so I would be willing to try it out. What’s $30 compared to the tons of cash I’ve spent on creams, scrubs, and bleaches that only ended up in irritation and scarring? I think it’s worth a try at least. I’ll have to save up a little bit before I can purchase it, though. Sad, I know, but I’m a poor college student – I can’t do any better! lol

I will definitely let you know how One Touch or any other product works for me. Thanks for all of your help! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Since you indicate that your skin is hyperpigmenting - find a product that contains primarily kojic acid and licorice root, um, don’t drink it though, its a topical.

Good Luck and keep me informed.