Hey all
Sorry if this has been covered many times before (I couldnt see it if it has) but as a general rule, is it the higher the setting the electrolysis machine is at the better/more efficient the treatment is? As long as you can take the pain that is.
The elec. is using the blend method on my back. Not sure what type the machine being used is. The needle used is a type of gold one if that matters. Sorry cant think of any more details.
Do hope this is a yes/no question.
Thanks in advance
no, there is an amount of energy that will treat the follicle, and that amount is lower with a good insertion, higher with a poor insertion. Increasing the energy beyond that does nothing but leave more room for less accuracy in treatment skill.
It is a NO. " what James wrote.
Settings aren’t like a one-size-fits-all poncho.
The gentlest settings possible that allow the hair to slide out without resistance are all you need. No need for shock-and-awe unless it’s warranted. 
Just wondering: how much hair have you got on your back? It’s a large area, and flash thermolysis or laser (if you’re an ideal candidate) would be MUCH faster than blend.
Is this why most of the time so many people are left with hefty skin reactions. Considering, quite a few electrologist have poor visual equipment, making it harder for better insertions so they have to turn the juice up to kill the hair?
Bad insertions require more energy that the target area is destroyed completely.
Little bit crazy example:
Soldiers need to shoot their enemy from distance. If theyre precise enough, a common projectile is enough. If they arent, they need to take something stronger with some kind of explosive projectile to kill efectively.
Thanks for the replies everyone.
Ok a no it is.
Playing devils advocate though ,given the reasons you stated above, surely it is still beneficial to up the energy as even the best most consistent electrologist will miss from time to time? So stastically (yawn) it would be better? No? lol. Just a random thought.
JMISR - I am now nearly done (a success story - wahoo) its just the last few hairs that dont seem to be going away.
During my own treatment (beard removal) I approached it with these things in mind.
I wanted it finished as soon as possible.
I wanted it finished as soon as possible.
And I wanted it finished as soon as possible.
Like yourself playing “devils advocate” I was of a similar mind in that I thought that using a good amount of energy would go one step further towards complete follicle destruction over and above the easy release way of thinking. I have to say I’m stilI thinking along these lines.
If what you read is true having the hair slide out easily doesn’t necessarily mean you’ve damaged the follicle enough to prevent it from producing another hair. Unfortunately the hairs don’t release with a little label attached saying follicle is DEAD The hairs are merely the fruit of the follicle after all and it’s the follicle we’re trying to destroy. There are certain things to look for when determining wether or not they (the follicles) have been treated adequately but that’s only when looking at the hair. Even with superior magnification it is not possible to look inside the treated follicle to ensure that all of the germinative material, that being the cells, have been destroyed. If they haven’t then there is a possibility that another hair may emerge, all be it, hopefully at least, a much a finer and weaker one. Under high magnification the treated hairs do look quite different although they could be put into categories where they were similar, hope that makes sense. This is determined by where they are in the growth cycle and it is not a necessarily an accurate measure of wether the follicle has been destroyed or not. It is unfortunately all an electrologist has available to judge wether total follicle destruction has taken place and until an endoscope capable of looking inside has been developed it’s all we have to go on. That and obviously wether or not an area is starting to look clearer or not after a reasonable amount of time has passed…
I’d actually go so far as to say that sometimes the hair doesn’t slide out easily. It can be hanging onto the follicle right at the top near the follicle opening. I am trying to avoid putting any energy into this area because this is where you are going to have problems with surface scarring. In this instance it might well be that the follicle has been treated adequately in spite of the hair not releasing as everyone expects it to… This could be one of the reasons why some people experience a feeling of plucking. I’d hate to think I’m giving a valid reason here for poor treatment but I have seen this for myself first hand and I’m in no doubt that in some instances this can be the case. I have treated the same follicle twice sometimes three times (this is mostly when practising on myself) with energy that was quite adequate on countless hairs in the minutes previous and yet I still find hairs that will not release. I have slowly and carefully tweezed these away only to find that they are attached in the very top of the follicle where you do not want any energy to be released. Even less than a single millimetre of hair attached is enough to give a sensation of being plucked away. It is possible to release some energy in the upper part of the follicle to facilitate that easy release that everyone expects but it serves no purpose other than releasing the hair and it’s not affecting the follicles ability to produce more hair. It could very well be causing surface damage that wont heal nicely as would be the case with correct depth insertions. Anyway the chances are that the follicle has already been dealt with by the initial insertion/insertions and subsequent release of energy.
I have to add (sorry :)) that occasionally some hairs still don’t release when they have been treated the same as countless hairs before them and there are various different reasons why this can happen… I’ll spare you any more of my ramblings, I’m sure the "reasons’ will have been covered elsewhere here on the forum already.
I have now had the pleasure and it is a pleasure to witness under high magnification a hair sliding out of a follicle looking like it has been properly treated. As the hair slides out of the follicle it actually stretches the opening as it passes through and this could account for a small amount of resistance (pop) which in most cases is not even perceptible. I am hoping to record some treatment at high magnification so that this can be witnessed by everyone but I still need a few gizmos to make this possible.
In using more energy than is necessary for an easy “release” there is the possibility of more post treatment reaction and this might not be acceptable to everyone. This doesn’t have to mean pitted scars and I would be horrified to think that I had inflicted this upon someone but it might mean that any post treatment reaction will hang around for a little longer before it heals satisfactorily … It’s all common sense thinking really, nothing complicated.
I have donned my crash helmet and leathers to fend off the no doubt scathing and differing opinions to come 
Best Wishes all
I read Michael write here a while ago that hairs are actually more strongly anchored at the top, not at the root?
You can read in Bonos free sample on his webpage.
If you want to get rid of the hair, you need to destroy the anchor - it everything under the sebaceous glands…
Responding to Follizap:
No crash helmet needed. I concur completely. But your post does highlight an interesting phenomenon about “surface damage and adverse reactions.” What does a “surface reaction” indicate, and where is the damage actually being made? (For the rank-and-file electrologists, the following will not affect your technique at all, but it might be interesting anyway.)
I remember in electrology school, we were told not to make an accidental shallow insertion and apply the HF or we might “scar the epidermis.” The directive was correct, but the “skin layer” was incorrect. Scar tissue cannot form in the epidermis. You can’t “scar” the epidermis. Scar tissue forms primarily in the reticular dermis.
The epidermis can be completely removed and it will grow back nearly intact with no scar tissue. Real dermabrasion removes the entire epidermis and a lot of the papillary (and lower) dermis. This must be done to get down to where the (acne) scars really live to enable collagen to fill in and have the entire skin regenerate. The procedure is a frightening bloody mess (not in the British sense, but in the literal sense).
Still, when you see unwanted “surface damage” what you are really seeing is too much damage taking place in the dermis. The surface reaction is really your indicator. This excessive dermis coagulation can lead to visible “surface” damage. I only mention this, because I still hope (against hope?) that my fellow electrologists get into removing telangiectasia. This procedure, that literally only “touches the skin” and coagulates the epidermis and capillary, cannot EVER create a scar. This is a 100% safe procedure that you should be doing. You already have the equipment (all units work well). Jossie is “nailing” the teles … but then, that’s “our Jossie!”
By the way, I am just starting to put in a “ton” of free stuff on my silly website. (Follizap gave me the idea. thanks!)
I would be happy to read something from your free stuff Michael
Thanks for putting me straight on that one Mike I think it might be ok to remove my bash hat now, it’s ruining my hair
I have the luck to have the best teacher “on line” in the world. Without your advice and guidance, Michael, I would never have achieved. Thank you.