Seeing the forest for the trees ( journal of sorts

ARGH! So the regrowth monster has got me again. It’s been a really rough week and weekend. I fgot no electrolysis done on myself, in over a week. I was greeted in the mirror this morning by a face full of fuzz. So I’ll be busy today trying to kill some of it, and for the next couple days at least. I cant currently work in the evenings because my autistic son gets into things.
I know I’m in one of the bad stages for regrowth about now and it will diminish, but I feel like I am not keeping up at the moment.

Feeling: overwhelmed.

Seana

So several days ago I expressed some discomfort with the level of regrowth i had seen recently.Part of it was due to the amount of time I had for epilating, I’d spent a lot of time on others over the last few weeks and done nearly none on myself.
I ended up doing the one thing I hadnt done in 3-4 months, I shaved.This did two things :
1)It gave me a feel for where I was in the process. I had a beutiful face, for about 2 days with little shadow.
2) It stopped me from working for a further 3-4 days

Yesterday I spent about 2 hours on my chin. Not even close to clear, and I’ve the rest of the face too. Upper lip is especially bad again. Today I have more scheduled.Time to play catchup. By the looks of things if I epilated constantly from here to the end of the month I still would not catch up.I’m again limiting my working area tot hose that will have the greatest effect, lip and chin. Cheeks after that, and then under chin. I may continue to shave under the chin for a while until I get to there.

Doing the entire face at once, like I have, is an overwhelming task. I barely keep up. The idea is that I work on one area at a time sequentially. So today chin, tomorrow upper lip, then left cheek them right cheek. Then hopefully Nightfrost comes by and does the chin. By the time I reach the left cheek it’s time to start again on the chin. So when I take a bit of a break ( like I have recently) it’s hard on me emotionally because all the areas catch up to me at once.
Recently I’ve caught myself procrastinating significantly.I’ve sat and drank coffee rather than zap hairs and not wanted to go up and face it. Now is time to catch up all those neglected hairs. Time to return to me.Time to overcome the hesitancy to do what I know I have to.

Seana

Ugh…scabbing.MAJOR scabbing. The last couple days has been catchup as I have been ignoring my face for several weeks as I mentioned. Christmas I spent several hours clearing my chin.Used the same settings I always do, multiplex preset 38. I didn’t get all of it, but a good bit especially on the left side. Last night I cleared my right upper lip. I didn’t notice anything out of ordinary. Today I go to do the left upper lip and glance down at my chin, which where I worked is covered in many neat scabs. A lot more than I’m used to. Now I’m not sure where I went wrong.The one thing i can think of is I didn’t do any after-treatment. No teatree, no facecloths no aloe . But I’ve done the same treatment in the same area tons of times with no issue, and only the occasional scab. Now I’m not panicking, because I know they will fall off in a week or so no damage done, but I am seriously wondering if my after-treatment was making that much difference? I know I went a little shallower on my insertions than I usually do, that too may have made a difference.Think I’ll break out the teatree oil and facecloth.I’ll post a picture soonish

Seana

Glad to see you going at it. I have been working on my left arm. Honestly, I know my new epilator is more high tech etc, but I miss my 2 pedal manual Hinkle. I’m still working with the settings on this one and I’m not too fond of the computerized aspect.
I may sell it at some point and just get a Hinkle classic like Mr. Bono uses.

Really? I LOVE the computerized epilators.I’m especially fond of the multiplex blend mode. i guess everyone has preferences though

Seana

Back at the chin today, upper lip is done but has some regrowth already. So much hair. I’m a little discouraged but muddling through. My son is now gone for a week so I have more time. Kids will go to school this week so that will give me more time.Worked mostly on the chin today, it’s nowhere near done. So many fine hairs.cheeks havent been touched yet. That’ll take a day each.Along the jawline is horrid and painful.

Seana

So yesterday I finished up the chin in most places ( still a few stray hairs but not many) and started on right cheek. There wasnt alot there and I’ve cleared much of it already. The left cheek is todays project. I’ll get back to the right. The left has quite a bit more hair.And that has me going this morning. Lots of procrastinating and relaxing with a coffee first.

I should have unlimited time…Unfortunately there is no school bus today because of weather so the kids are home, on their first day back to school.Sigh. To boot , mischief, my family labrador retriever is in heat and needs constant supervision so I’m getting little “shots” of electrolysis in between those two things.

Seana

Well today was a most productive day. I cleared mostly my left cheek, still a little cleanup to do but not alot,Also worked under the chin and on the chin.I’m impressed with how much hair I was able to remove in a single day and I’m hoping to keep the momentum up tommorrow.
I shaved the neck and the rest under the chin because Nightfrost wont be over for a while and it was getting quite long.I’m letting the neck go a bit as I cant work on it myself and Nightfrost is only over a little bit.

In the mean time EVERONE I work on is trying to get me going this week, I have at least one other face to work on probably friday then again next week another.I’m putting myself first for the moment though.

I went back and looked at my messages and it looks like it was the beginning of october when I finally got my memory card and got to start on my face. That puts me at around 3 1/2 months since I started this project. That being the case, and given at least 3 weeks of that I got harldly anything done, I’m getting impressed I’ve come as far as I have. Yes I’ve seen regrowth, but it is getting less.

Seana

So Nightfrost was here for 2 days and we got zero done electrolysis wise.We were out with friends across town and didnt have time.
Today, I’ve thrown my back out. Happens every few years but hasnt in a while. I’m in agony. I managed to zap 2 or 3 hairs tops before having to stop because I wanted to change the probe.I havent gotten back up to work because my back hurts no matter how I’m positioned.
There isnt alot hair on the chin, but some. Getting regrowth everywhere but you can tell it is sparser.There is hope.

Edit: Nope my back has definitely decided for me that I’m not getting anything done, including electrolysis today.Maybe several days.

Seana

So today I’m working on my left cheek. I probably will be for most of the weekend. I would have thought I would be using thermolysis for this but there are times I’m not 100% on the insertion. So blend it is. A little slow as compared with the thermolysis but as long as I have lye evenly distributed the follicle should be dead,even if my angle isn’t perfect.I’m saving the thermolysis for lip and chin. I wonder how it will be on those fine white hairs under the lower lip that seem to always come up in a row.I’m not confident with the thermolysis yet as its so new to me.

I have been meaning to take updated pics. The left cheek is by far the worst and where I am working right now. None of it has been shaved since December, with the exception of the upper lip and under chin. I ram a razor after a complete clearance on the upper lip to get rid of some fuzz the chin was shaved a couple weeks ago. Because Nightfrost doesn’t get enough time on the neck it’s never really caught up and its sometimes pointless to continue to let it grow between his visits. I often lift the skin over the cheekbone to do underneath when I have time.

But today I’m working on my left cheek . There’s a lot of hair to take out this area hasnt been touched in about a month.It’'s by far the worst side of my face. Lots of catch up to do. It’s really funny how one side has so much more than the other. side of my face. A side effect of the laser I think.

Seana

Dangit I’m extremely frustrated. I’ve spent a good hunk of yesterday and today working on mostly the left cheek. The angles are all wrong and working on myself I’m getting frustrated. Worse, I am not going to see nightfrost for over a week, and my chin and under the jawline, some of the harder places for me to insert on myself, are full of hair. Razor coming REALLY soon. Just because I cant take it.I’m going to try and keep working though the week then shave only when my youngest comes and time is more limited.

What I really could use, is a second electrolysis partner who isnt as pressed for time as Nightfrost is.I need work done and it’s mostly in places I cant see what I’m doing.

Seana

Ok so I’ve been meaning to for a while, so it’s time to give a picture update.

Bear in mind I had electrolysis yesterday, and SEVERAL times in the last few days. I wont be seeing Nightfrost for 7 days, so I shaveed the neck as it was getting unmanageable. Lots of time to grow in before he visits in a week.

You will see little bits of hair here and there. I apparently need to zip through the upper lip and chin again. The only part that has seen razor since christmas is the neck where nightfrost is working on me. I do believe I am starting to “catch up” again though. I also seem to have a few hairs right up near the upper cheek on each side of my face.They are on the obliterate list next time I’m probing.

One side of my face was worked on much more recently than the other.You can see the scabbing from blend easily on that side.

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These are all taken approximately 4 months into what hs been primarily been, self treatment.

EDIT: It’s taking a while for these photos to synchwith dropbox. Give it a few minutes if you get an error.
Seana

So one of the things I’ve come to realize as I cycle around the different areas of my face and treating it is that one area in particular, for some reason all the hairs in this particular area seem to have gone iinto telogen all about the same time. It’s all very strange. As a result they are longer and lighter toward the root and very hard to see to remove. It’s a difficult area to access as it’s under the jawline. I’ve come to dread going into that area now.

I didnt get there today but did a clear of the lip and chin. Tommorrow maybe the cheeks.The hairs are always getting sparser. I’m at the end of a long week with my son when I get very little done.

Seana

So yesterday was spent mostly on the upper lip and a bit on the chin. It’s been 10 days since I last worked on myself, mostly because my little autistic guy was home for march break for a longer than usual stay. In short I had no environment to practise.

Quite a bit of time I spend also removing “tombstones” little short hairs and bits of hair that are slowly ejecting from my skin and look like blackheads. Thank you michael for identifying that, I hadnt thought of that. I’m not sure why they start showing up all of a sudden though.

Today has been spent completely clearing out my workspace . Tommorrow morning my new bench arrives and I need to clear space for it and re-organize.This will also mean I need to take out the hooks for my mirror hanging from the ceiling, and so my ability to work today has been killed off by both time, and accommodations. Until I get set up again once the bench arrives I can set the distance on the strings and placement for the hooks.It’s disruptive, but having an organized work space will be awesome.

Seana

So who turned off the switch?

Alright, to be fair, I had noted reductions in the amount of hair for quite some time.It was slow, imperceptable, but while it used to take me week to get around to all the areas on my face with daily work, it started to take less and less over the last couple months. finally culminating ain total clearance of my working areas in about an hour.And I started to notice tombstones. Lots of them. In fact I am still getting lots of them. Little blackhead like things that if squeezed will pop out a small piece of partial hair. I’ve noticed them for a while but especially recently there has been a lot of them.
So this has been a busy week. I was helping nightfrost to build a new computer ( broke the cpu too, I didnt need that expense!) and I had a couple of my regular transgirls in for treatment. . As a result I didnt get to treat myself in about a week and a half.Last night I look in the mirror expecting the worst.Nope! Maybe at best a dozen spread out hairs that will tke no more than 10 minutes to treat. It’s as if someone turned off a switch and the hairs stopped growing.
Now I’m confused. Yes I had heard of tombstones but didnt immediately identify them as such. But what bothers me? The TIMING. I finally got my memory card for my machine the first week of October. That’s when I started treating, and even then I did my arm only for a week or so. So lets count…October, November , December, January , February, March. Six months! From all the reading I do, and all the advice given on these forums, I did in no way expect to reach this point in treatment for at LEAST a year.Six months doesn’t sound reasonable. How is it that a rank amateur, can somehow break the laws of hair growth, and reach a point in treatment that is so near completion, in half the time it takes a professional to treat a client???

Well I suppose there are answers. First, I over-treat. 90% of those hairs got a double shot of blend. They are dead Jim! I suppose that does cut down on regrowth. Second, I spent those six months treating at every opportunity.There were times I was going in 6-7 times a week for sessions of as many hours. This frequency of treatment is a tried and true method, the more you do, the more you dont have to do later. So here’s your little bit of inspiration folks, if you electrologist is tlling you to come in more frequently for treatment, they are RIGHT! get it done. It WILL make a difference.

I’m still getting more tombstones than I am hairs. I suppose I will be for a while?I still have the neck to work on( actually almost stat, I’ve made very little progress there). Nightfrost just hasnt had as much time as we would like.He sure likes rubbing his hand ovr my cheek now and geeling smoth instead of rough.

Spring has sprung, and a young mans heart turns to the ladies, and the ladies heart turns to…electrolysis! Those of you who have followed me so far know I have also been treating a few transwomen . Mostly low income folks who cant afford it any other way. I havent really charged a fee but some have covered costs so it’s not a complete loss for me. I took on two other full faces back in November. Many of my friends knew I was doing electrolysis but since christmas, I had told all I wasnt taking on any more becuase of the time investment.
Now two of my “regulars” stopped coming over christmas.The didnt come in February. They didnt come in January. Finally mid march I posted to btoth of them, telling them they needed to get treatment or they would not see any progress. One has, I treated her for 7 hours this past week and she has two more appointments set up.The other is going to San Francisco for a month. So I posted in my transgroups that I was on very limited basis willing to take on others while I had time in my schedule…BUT that because I didnt believe when they werent paying SOMETHING it was taken seriously, and to cover costs, I would be charging a very small hourly fee to cover costs ,
Now back in october, some might remember “ZOE” someone who had wanted to do some trading off. She never got back to me. Yesterday she did, and wants toget going, so I’ll be trading off neck and throat with her this coming week. But additionally I have had no less than 4 people come to me asking if I would take them on in the last week alone. This electrolysis thing has honestly taken on a life of it’s own. I’ve decided to say yes in the majority of cases, as long as I can schedule them in.When I am out of time, then I’ll not take on anyone else.“Sara” one of my two missing clients since Christmas who has made good and resumed work commented to me yesterday tht “You have a real potential for a small business and I’m watching it happen”. I suppose she is right, but I wasnt really ready to “turn pro” just yet.In fact once or twice I’ve started IT support businesses, and in the end had them fail miserably in my lifetime. I’m really hesitant to start any kind of business. That said I honestly think that is where this is going. I know I can use the income . I think it’s time I start a certificate program again and seriously consider how much work I want to be doing.While I’m pleased with the results and reaction from others, I temper it with a bit of genuine fear of getting in too deep and failing.
So that’s where I am at right now. Progress, and I am starting to do a lot more work than I had been. I’m once again looking at getting a autoclave. I’m looking at gaining a certificate so I can prove my credentials. It’s all about investing the money I need to a this point the results show me I already have the skill even if i still lack some experience.Nowexpecially now paying for a damaged CPU the money is going to be hard to come by but even if I put aside a small part of the little bits I do charge that should be easier.I’m pretty sure I know the direction I’m going in, but I’m definitely tempering it with a healthy dose of fear of failure.

Seana

Today is a zapping day, first time I’ll have touched my face in a few weeks. Some regrowth, but it’s pretty minimal now. Just enough to keep me zapping for a few hours. I’m noticing a lot of the tombsones now are either ejecting or near ejecting, sometimes helped along by my tweezers. The difference in skin quality once they are mostly gone is amazing. So smooth and soft :slight_smile:

I’ve been venturing out on a couple clients into trying some thermolysis . Two so far and I’m watching skin reactions carefully. I got some good advice on technique from a CPE who had me to her establishment here locally a while ago and I’ve been trying some of it out.

Seana

OmG the hair! I’ve been walking around like this?!!??!

havent touched my face in a few weeks, just been a busy girl with life and all. Tonight I was going out to a TG group thing, so I decided to lay on the bench and kill off one or two big hairs. There was a lot more than I bargained for! To be honest, it isnt that bad, most of it is so thin I dont notice it unless I’m looking in my magnifying mirror. I guess tommorrow after my session with one of my clients, I’ll spend a couple hours and work on myself.
it’s an overwhelming amount when you dont touch it for weeks, I suppose that will teach me to look more often.

Well it’s been over 2 months since I updated this.

I’ve been going back and getting bits of stray hairs. I do still get regrowth, but I’m not addressing it nearly as often.

I’ve fired one of my clients. I didnt want to, but this person had some social issues and would say insulting things every time she came for treatment. After the last time she was here, I decided no more. I’m happy to provide an inexpensive service for transgirls, but my home is a safe space, and trans-misogyny( from a transperson) and unwelcomed personal comments are not acceptable. It does mean I’ve been working considerably less, but I’m okay with that as long as I’m still getting practise in.I do have someone new I will be starting on also.

I’ve had some changes in my life. As of two weeks ago I am divorced. In September my autistic son, who’s 7, will be residing with me full time instead of week on/week off. His mother is moving to the states and abandoning him and remarrying a US serviceman ( next week).On a personal level, I’ve dealt with severe depression from that, and at times am non-functional, either on a personal level , or as an electrologist. It also means I have less time to practise, as I cant do alot of electrolysis when he is home all day in the summertime. This is why I havent responded to many threads of late, I have not personally been up to it.Depression is a horrible place to be.

So today I m working on my face, started with my upper lip. It’s the first time I’ve touched it in 6 weeks easily. I’ve worked twice as much on “sara” one of my transgirl friends than I have on myself. There’s alot to take off. But it shouldnt take me more than a day or so to catch up. I just need to get my head together and work at it.The hair is not dense, but it’s not been shaved or removed in 6 weeks. Despite my “mental break” I’m still pretty much on schedule. The appearance of tombstones has slowly tapered off.

Seana

So I’ve complained for some time about my neck.It’s one area I cant really work well unless I pull the skin over the jawbone, and that’s awkward at best. Eric ( nightfrost) is here for 3 days, so this week I pretty much browbeat him into zapping as much hair as he can on my neck. For the first time ever, my neck is almost clear. We still have maybe an hour or so left to go but I’ve no doubt we will finish the neck for the most part today. For me, this is huge, because I’ve deeply felt the dysphoria of this unremoved hair for a while now.

My eternal thank you to Eric, you have made me a very happy girl over yesterday and today.

People see this header come up and they expect my personal journal of hair removal. A lot of people skip it over. And I’m hoping that is what happens this time. It’s not my hair removal I’m going to talk about this time though. There’s a fair bit of drama and backstabbing going on on the board, and I’m going to express some feelings on it.Be forewarned, this post is not pretty.I’ve developed a distinct distrust for some contributing members of this board.

Several years ago I realized a lot of my hair removal references, seemed to be pointing here to hairtell. I began to read here more often, and eventually I posted. There seemed to be a lot of professional support for this site, and expert knowledge.
Along the way I’ve made some friends, and some acquaintances. Among them, are James Walker and Michael Bono.Or so i thought. You see, Michael and James pretty much strait up detest each other.And distrust each other, and each has expressed this to me. Each was equally colourful in their own way but Michael in particular seemed to seek out limelight and Drama, while James for the most part avoided such. Over time I’ve spoken to and gotten advice from both of them.
Some weeks ago James posted that he was having difficulty balancing health issues with his assistance of some disadvantaged folks, and wouldnt be posting here.In fact I think he is off on vacation at this time, though I’m not certain if that is it. What was clear was he needed time to recover, and was stepping back from a lot of things until he had them sorted out. I applaud this decision, and feel it was the best thing he could have done.
Then several days ago, a new poster here, started a thread ( or attempted to) and posted some pictures that purported to be of James Office. Yet several things didnt seem to add up. The text claimed the bathtub was full of dirty towels for example, but the pictures showed these thrown on the floor with no clarification by the poster they had done this themselves. Dryer lint was claimed to be mould. Pictures were taken of what should have been private spaces. These showed stuff piled up int the office and it seemingly cluttered. There seemed to be a lot of very close up shots of of the cluttered desktop for example, but no shots where this was shown in context.

Other things that seemed to not make sense to me, were the poster starting treatment then deciding to stop and go home. That they stayed there the first night, were there no yellow pages for a motel?They had to call their parents in germany for them to call buffalo and make a reservation…in buffalo? Why would they stay someplace that was in such bad shape reportedly? And why post this here on hairtell, when the electrologist in question is clearly, and has been expressed to be, absentee from this site? I left open the possibility that it was consumer activism, and asked questions rather than making assertions. If there is any one thing that this site has taught me, is to assume nothing, question every assertion or theory.I took a very neutral, but questioning stance.I still think this is the right thing, to question what appears to be because all is usually not what it appears to be.

So what bothers me about the timeline? Although it’s been removed, Jossie at one point commented this took place in feb-march of this year. She also stated that the person in question is now recieving treatment by her and has been for several months, if not immediately after the supposed treatment by James, very close to it. And she seems to be posting FOR Michael, which is odd. why does the timeline bother me? Because Jossie is booked up years in advance. how is it this person got in to see her almost immediately after this took place? I’ve always respected Jossie, and she has contributed much on this site, but there seemed to be influences that didnt make sense, assertions that didnt add up by the OP, and some very strange goings on.
Then, in the same Breath that Michael misgenders me and says I’m not a woman, and tells me to shut up and not ask any questions he reveals that he was ON THE PHONE with the OP even while she was there recieving treatment. He clearly was in constant contact, and coloring the opinions of this poster throughout the time this is to have taken place, and since!.. This concerns me greatly, because while Michael is entitled to any opinion he chooses, I’ve often heard of things such as him calling up other electrologists, and generally sticking his nose in other people’s business. Add to this, he’s now offering private correspondance on the issue? Something stinks in california and it isnt the garbage dump. Whether or not this whole scenario is complete fabrication ( which it may very well be) it’s clear that Mr Bono was involved, instigating, and interfering with James business. I can almost see him rubbing his hands together in glee. Even if i take the OP’s posts at face value, Michaels influence in the events taking place is clear, and I have to wonder if there might not be a decent defamation case with regards to his actions.
I dont know what took lace in buffalo in feb-march, nor could I possibly. I cant and wont speak for James. However the clear interference by one electrologist on this board int he business of another, is unprofessional misconduct. I wont condone it. And it has brought into question the integrity of some other posters here, which makes me extremely uncomfortable as I had thought these people worthy of respect and admiration for their contributions, contributions, I will forever question now.
So there’s no mistake, I have put Michael’s account on ignore, because of his assertion I should shut up and not question anything, and because of the clear trans-misogynist statement he made against me. I wont see any reply here, or elsewhere unless postedby someone else, in which case I’l add thaat account to my ignore list as well.
As for the supposed goings-on, I have no comment. I personally, and this is just a personal opinion, believe it to be a snow-job and that there may be some legal liabilities in the case that have not come to light yet, that have nothing to do with what happened between client and electrologist., but it really doesnt matter what I think. The second I questioned anything in that thread I was instantly jumped on by some people here and made out to be defending james, when, all I really did was keep an open mind either way.
Regardless, I am entitled to my thoughts and opinions on this board, and I wont be told to shut up by anyone. I’ve been taught to question assertions on this board. I’ve never told someone else to shut up, or that they arent entitled to their opinions but this was moost definitely being stated about me. I am offended by this, though I should realize that people do seem to put an awful lot of words in others mouths that are never ever spoken.
I will say I think it’s shameful for some of the professionals here to set out to attack the businesses of others, and to instigate the same. Such is in-excusable and a breach or morality. To put someone up to defaming the business of another, I’m, just at a loss for words . i really hope and pray I’m wrong , but what has been presented does seem to indicate that this is the case.
I’m never going to read a post here, and not question who the poster is, their motives, and yes, their moral integrity.And, I will feel free to express my opinions, and respect others rights to do so, but definitely not if they are constructing a fabrication to take cheap shots at others.

Seana