RF+Optical Light Lasers: My Experience

[b][color:#CC0000]Hi,

This being my post number [font:Impact]666[/font] I wanted to post about something that was evil. My choice is lasers that incorporate radio-frequency along with their optical output, whether it’s diode, yag, alexandrite, or IPL. Sometimes they are refered to as “RF+Diode” or “RF+Alexandrite”. These lasers, made mostly by the company Syneron, go by the term “Elos” technology. Brands include the Comet and the Galaxy. They generally put out about 5 – 25J/cm3 radio frequency, which may seem like just a number, but is actually quite a bit of energy in that it is being generated purely by radio waves. They use the radio waves because they say, “RF is colorblind”. They say it adds to the optical light in that it raises follicle temperatures before the light hits it.

Okay, people need to understand. There have been no, none, conclusive studies proving any of this as effective. Syneron themselves do not offer anything but their own opinion papers they generated to counter the questioning of this application.

Medical doctors that have used this type of laser have mostly agreed the radio-frequency / microwave bombardment does nothing to help remove hair, and only contributes “arc-burns” when the contact plates don’t make good contact with the skin.

FDA approved these RF+Optical lasers, but they only insinuated that they do no damage at lower operating levels, nothing long term was considered, and efficacy was not a factor. Also not considered was that operators would begin to crank up the RF when they saw it was not working. In other words, they didn’t consider whether they worked at all, it just didn’t do extensive harm to the patient that they knew of’ at low settings. That was how they got through FDA.

Microwaves / Radio Frequency are colorblind, but they are also protein-blind, DNA-blind, RNA-Blind, Organelle-blind, and Enzyme/carrier protein-blind. RF / Microwaves destroy, distort, or alter everything in their path. These bursts can heat blood in capillaries so hot so fast, that the capillaries burst. Also, when they pass the delivery gun over your boney areas like the shin, they bombard your osteoclasts with that. Osteoclasts and osteoblasts are exptremely important to your good health, and there is nothing to shield them from the RF. See, the only thing worse than complete death of hair syste cellular structures, is partial destruction of cellular structures. Because then, you have structures embedded in your skin that have been knocked off their natural biological function track. This opens the door to many, many complications, yes, cancer being one.

Now, we all know that hair is not knocked out by one sole laser treatment. So, that means it didn’t kill the target cells completely. So what did it do? Do you think optically induced radiation and radio-frequency bombardment just left your cells untouched? It most likely damaged them, and how, nobody knows. This is basically like trying to turn off your computr with a hammer. You just don’t know what is being hit and what it has turned into. Cells have regulatory genes, cells have suppressed genes, cells have dormant genes, cells have suicide mRNA activated genes. All these genes are triggered or suppresed by mRNA, stop/ start codons, repressor proteins, or all of the above.

When you start randomly destroying components of cells, if you don’t kill it, the whole cell, you could actually be turning on something else, or enabling or destroying a hormone receptor. -These radiowaves go in there and cause havok, and none of this has been studied by Syneron.

I blindly received five treatments with the Syneron Comet, an RF+Diode Elos laser. As a result I suffered exploded capillary beds, which appears as bruising, but is more long term, arc-burns from the RF, induced hair growth on the outsides of my abdomen, and distorted follicles that only appear in areas treated with the Syneron Comet, nowhere else. And by the way, I only witnessed no more than 5%-10%, if that, hair reduction, that may not have even been permanent.

…And it cost me about $2,300.00 for all this, and wasted time, and pain.

Well, this concludes Post number [font:Impact]666[/font]. I wanted to do this because I think Elos lasers are Evil lasers. Any representatives from Syneron that wish to doubt what I have put forth can feel free to contact me. I assure you I have the science background to talk like this, and can supply the La Jolla clinic, operator, dates, scars, and ineffectiveness of the laser.

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Based on an early description of how the technology worked, I was never convinced it could selectively target hair follicles.

Doesn’t the movie “Kick Ass” have a scene about a man in a giant microwave oven? Oh, yeah, this is not my 666 post. :smiley:

Interesting post. I worked with two Syneron lasers for a couple of years and the photo facial (IPL + RF) would create a long term swelling (or “collagen production”) in the temple and cheekbone region. This gave a creepy alien look IMO. It took a year or two until my face returned to normal.

As well, shortly after I stopped photo facials I got this awful rash on my neck and face that never went away :frowning: I still struggle with it today, my last syneron photofacial was in 2008. My dermatologist thinks its adult acne but my pimples/lesions remain for 1-3 months. Acne pimples are gone in a week or two. I think rosacea? Either way I figured these facials might have been the reason and I had way more than 5.

Oh I remember the RF was supposed to help heat up the hairs even blonde, red and gray…I never saw a difference with these hairs for laser hair removal.

Amen.