Regrowth questions [Pics attached]

Hello

So I completed an “initial clearance” on my lower back about 3 weeks ago now.

This is what my back looked like before the clearance

Before

and this what it looks like 3 weeks after the clearance

After

Are things looking good? I have no idea whether this amount of hairs is to be expected or not.

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

Hi judging by your photographs i dont think you had an inital clearance that means clearing an entire area of all hairs it takes many sessions to achieve that

how long was your session?

I do see a reduction though

Hi, yes I believe I did have what qualifies as an “initial clearance” on my lower back.
Over the course of about 1.5 weeks I had roughly 15 hours done.

After that that time all hair from the lower back had gone and I was just left with loads of small red bumps. Those have now mostly healed and new hair has come through. Is it fair to say my electrologist has done a good job or not?

15 hours seems to me a lot for that area my Electrologist can remove roughly the size of two palms of a hand in an hour and is quite fast

looking again I think you have around 30% reduction

I was going to estimate six hours for that area but the pro’s here will maybe give you a more precise estimate ?

Odd really. Even if you had only tweezed the hairs, I would not have expected to see so much hair left (returning?) and not that length. Only 3 weeks? Really? I have to think about this one.

my hair would grow that long unfortunately in 3 weeks too mine

seems to have beard genes !

I am unable to clearly view the first image. Had you shaved the area prior to commencing treatment? In the second image, I notice many blunt hairs, with their naturally tapered ends missing. It is possible that many of these hairs could have been sliced at skin level with a sharp pair of tweezers, and were not removed from the root at all. This would account for the instant regrowth.

Sorry seems like that was a bad estimate! It’s been roughly 25 days since my last appointment, and roughly 35 days since I first started the clearance.

For what its worth, I once had this area waxed, and noticed ‘stubble’ as soon as 3 days after the wax. So maybe my hair grows very quickly, or there are lots of dormant hairs under the surface?

She did they say that people will generally have a 30% reduction.

I know she does use a sharp pair of tweezers. So this might be the case…

Generally, I do often feel a “plucked” sensation when she pulls the hair out. I now realise that you shouldn’t really feel as though the hairs are being plucked.

I have refrained from asking her to do the whole back as I wanted to use the lower back as a “test run” so to speak. If she did/does a good job there, then I’d give her free reign. But now I just am not sure whether the work is satisfactory or not.

However, she is the only person within a reasonable distance from me who uses an Apilus and who does long sessions.

How long were the hair untouched by temporary hair removal methods before you started treatment?

About 2.5 months (before that I had it waxed, was the only time its ever been waxed)

Some of the hair seem blunt. Do they feel blunt? Because that shouldn’t be the case with waxing…

I’m a bit confused? Surely the wax (which I got done in late January) has nothing to do with the hairs growing now?

Either way, yes the hairs do feel a bit blunt.

If the wax was not hot or strong enough hair could have broken off beneath skin
try plucking a couple of hairs and look closely magnifying glass etc if the ends are not tapered they maybe have been snapped off

While I have seen first hand the difference between other machines compared to Apilus, and believe the Apilus to be superior…

I would suggest looking into other electrologists nearby even if they do not use an Apilus. As the machine alone does not make the treatment successful.

I’m not saying that your electrologist is not proficient, though I would think with 15hrs that the area would have been cleared further than it is. I suggest you try out other technicians even if they do not have an Apilus.

Jack, waxed body hairs can take up to 3 months to regrow.

Yes, I have to agree with Catsup. While it’s hard to pin the blame on the new influx of hair because of the waxing (tempted to pin in on the electrolysis though), I would have expected more after 15 hours too.

By the way an Apilus doesn’t have to mean anything. I once had a godawful treatment with nearly zero success by someone with Apilus. What’s your general location?

London.

Ok so I think the general consensus is that my electrologist is not doing a particularly good job. I might go back to looking for others then!

Yes, that would be a shrewd choice in the management of your hair problem.

She did they say that people will generally have a 30% reduction.

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I have refrained from asking her to do the whole back as I wanted to use the lower back as a “test run” so to speak. If she did/does a good job there, then I’d give her free reign. But now I just am not sure whether the work is satisfactory or not.

However, she is the only person within a reasonable distance from me who uses an Apilus and who does long sessions. [/quote]

A 30% reduction is not what most people have, if things are going well. Reduction in your case should have been equal to the number of hairs were present in the skin surface. After two months and a half since the wax, this figure could be the 50/70%.
In red a little hint of what has been going wrong in your treatment.
Submit to a test is an excellent idea, but you should have chosen an area with virgin hairs thus remove any doubt about previous temporary hair removal, unless they were made 8/10 months before the test.

On November 9, 2012, I did a test on my son’s back in order to determine which is the area (Cm2)that I can clean at a reasonable speed which can handle any electrologist with about 5 years experience and if high thermolysis is being used. The area was never touched since then until last Thursday, April 25, the date on which this photo was taken.

Before. (November 9 2012)

24 hours after:
April 25 2013:

April 25 2013. From closer:

My intention this time is to check if my kill rate is the same with a different machine than Apilus Platinum, this time I used the Spectrum of Instantron.

Hi Josefa, what parameters you used with the spectrum?