Qualification and Certification abroad

Hair Removal Methods Professional Electrolysis
#1

Hi there,

i think i should start with a few words on myself. I am from Germany, have started my own business after two courses at ELIPA (owned by Iris Gminski, one of the few german CPEs). Now i am looking for possibilities to further improve my skills, and ideally to achive one of the well approved certifications in electrology. Of course i could book some higher level courses with Iris - her offering roughly corresponds to the former requirements for the CPE. But from my current practice i feel it is better to also get known to a different handwriting.

Unfortunately, in Germany there are no other qualified electrolysis schools.

Even more unfortunately the recent requirements for the CPE are out of reach for anyone who has to set up a new existence in the middle of life. So it looks as if i had to look for alternatives to the CPE and wonder if there are other reasonably well accepted certifications i could chose instead. Maybe something (not too much) below the CPE as a first step to a high level certificate.

Ideally, the examination authorities will accept kinds of training in compliance with the demands of an ongoing business, e.g. in blocks of some days to at maximum two weeks and/or accept parts of the training to be done here in Germany (btw., i am not alone with this; a college has similar demands).

I would appreciate any helpful suggestion very much

Beate

#2

Hello Beate
I understand perfectly her state of frustration as for the shortage of schools specializing in electrolysis. Lucky you possess in your country an excellent teacher as Iris Gminski (I know her high professional quality). In Spain we do not have not it.

Nevertheless, I have to say to him that the best professional certificate that could be granted her comes from the quality of her work in words of their own clients.

The best formation that someone can acquire does not come from a school. It comes from the worry for excelling himself and of an attentive observation. It is not dishonourable being a self-taught.
If my years of experience can help you, count on my assistance. Greetings

Josefa

#3

Beate, In your position, I would consider The British Institute and Association of Electrolysis (MBIAE). They are solely an examining body and don’t care where you train as long as you meet their standards. They hold entrance exams annually in London, and also I think in Glasgow. They will give you details of their syllabus, and would be thrilled to have a member in Germany. The same issues exist here in Australia, and there are no specialist electrolysis training collages at all.

#4

Hello Josefa,

Yes, indeed. Not only her professional quality is really good but also her trainings are highly recommendable. I can easily imagine to have further trainings with her, and i probably will book another course with her.

But as i already mentioned - i consider it valuable to learn a different handwriting and ideally to learn on flash thermolysis and its variants (which i am tentatively starting to use not only on my own body but also with customers). Furthermore - if i consider a foreign exam it will probably extremly helpful to have parts of the training abroad. On one hand in order to learn the terminology in english, on the other hand to learn about some topics specific to that country as far as they are important for the exam (e.g. formal demands on hygiene or running a business).

Anywa, thangs very much for the first responses, which i consider both very helpful.

And have a happy new Year ( mine is already more than two hours old ).

Beate

#5

Your aspirations are commendable, Beate. Want to specialize in Flash method is very convenient to get a good speed of execution. It encourages your customers and help change the eternal topic that electrolysis is a slow and tedious option. All of us engaged in this admirable task, we should follow your example. I am a strong supporter of any system to help speed the end of treatment and the Flash to 27 MHzs represents today, as soon as we have. Especially for those professionals who primarily treat large areas like legs, backs and arms.

#6

Yes, the same old complaints that electrolysis is slow and is only for small areas would be said no more if EVERY electrologist would step it up and re-train using the higher tech modes of thermolysis. On my epilator, the Apilus Platinum, I am floating from PicoFlash to Multiplex to Synchro thermolysis, depending on the hair situation. People want the hair cleared as fast (and careful) as possible. There are better ways to do electrolysis than when our mothers and grandmothers had it done in the 20th century. Trouble is, many electrologists refuse to look forward and purposely cling to their comfort zone. I do not fault them, as I understand what the hurdles are. The hurdles can easily be overcome with some networking, but better yet, the manufacturers would be very wise to listen closely to the electrologists who have moved forward. We have a lot of suggestions that would be very helpful in selling these high tech epilators so all could be on board with nearly the same strategy for removing any type of hair structure on any body part.

Dee

#7

But an Apilus Platinum is not the machine a beginner will usually be able to invest on.
Anyway - even my old Apilus Junior and similar machines of other brands offer a lot of headroom for fast and at least reasonably careful progress which waits to be fully utilized.

Beate

#8

Many beginners do invest in the Platinum or Pure while they are in school, but I would agree that the majority go with basic models from all manufacturers because it is a money issue and perhaps they have some hesitancy about whether they will succeed in attracting a clientele base. Eventually, when they know they can attract the customers, they end up spending more money to move up anyway. So, my advice to anyone new is to at least give the higher end models, that please experienced electrologists, high consideration. A neophyte can use the wonderful blend modalities until they reach a certain confidence level to move onto the thermolysis modes.

Happy New Year!

Dee

#9

Happy New Year to all!

As usual I agree with Dee. Beate, you can make a smaller investment in a Pure Apilus, but believe me, until we know the full Apilus not know what the Multiplex system can get. I’ve been using it 2 years and the concept has acquired a new dimension of speed. Except for the facial area, no hair deserves to spend more than a second.
I spent many years working with a slow thermolysis in a very simple machine, then my sprint improved with another machine that allowed a blend to 1 second. When I thought I would retire without knowing any better, it gives me the opportunity to work at less than 1 second. God! speed to treat a leg or an arm are soaring. You may not believe me, but I got a complete clearance in only 3.5 hours from the ankle to below the knee of a woman letting this hair grow for 2 months.

#10

Please let me make a suggestion: please come back to my main topic of possibilities of training in block courses abroad and suitable as well as reasonable certificates. The discussion on speed, know how and technology is an important topic by itself and worth its own thread (let me guess: such a thread already exists, doen’t it?;))

Ok, the MBIAE seems interesting, but which alternatives are there? ITEC?
And how could i organize training abroad - up to now i have only seen electrolysis schools offering complete curricula and nothing i could organise by myself parallel to my ongoing business.

Beate

#11

Have you got right. I’m sorry me off the main subject.

#12

Please let me continue this thread.

Several months ago, i contacted the BIAE and was welcomed as You told me. Unfortunately, the communication ceased as soon as i was asking for details - before applying to the membership i would prefer booking one of the trainings the BIAE offers to non-members as well as to members. Although my skills seem to have evolved a lot during the last months I do not feel well having a certification abroad without having training in that country - especially concerning formal issues there are too many things to be aware of which are specific for each country. Despite of that it is always good for newcomers to learn several “handwritings”.

Does anyone have an idea what is going on in the BIAE, what might be causing them not to answer? Is it possible that my old academic qualification is an obstacle?

Thx

Beate