please help the bald men

This is no joke.
I post on hairsite.com and am a hair restoration doctor.
In course of discussions a possible venue we found out was TRANSPLANTING hair roots taken out by some method wherein some of the stem cells stick to the extracted roots and some stay behind.
We hear that often numerous sittings are required to actually get rid of the unwanted hair during electrolysis.
That means some stem cells do stay back in the treated area.
But nobody till date has replanted those extracted roots into an area of hair loss or thinning.
Will they grow ?
Any info or advise will be most welcome.
Please also let me know if there is any other method than electrolysis which you feel may be more helpful.
My aim is not to destroy hair roots but rather to multiply them this way.
You may mail me at poswalarvind@yahoo.co.in
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Regards.
Dr.Arvind Poswal
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From what i know of transplanting – skin is actually ripped from the back and then sewn up. Not exactly a viable solution for people wanting to lose hair, not the entire skin. Unless i’m reading your question wrong.

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As many people make the joke, “Can you take 'em out of my face and put 'em on my head?”, the answer is still the same:

Electrolysis thermocoagulates or chemically destroys the growth cells. This renders them unfit for retransplant. Any regrowth occurs because cells that have not been destroyed are left inside the follicle, and that is why they cause regrowth. All transplant techniques I know of involve scouping out skin and relocating it to the desired area for growth.

All transplant techniques I know of involve scouping out skin and relocating it to the desired area for growth.
That’s right.

According to my electrologist, she also performs the hair transplant job…
Each hair was moved from one part of the head to another part of the head.

As many people make the joke, “Can you take 'em out of my face and put 'em on my head?”, the answer is still the same:

Electrolysis thermocoagulates or chemically destroys the growth cells. This renders them unfit for retransplant. Any regrowth occurs because cells that have not been destroyed are left inside the follicle, and that is why they cause regrowth. All transplant techniques I know of involve scouping out skin and relocating it to the desired area for growth.

Thanks for the replies.But I think there is a bit of confusion here.
Let me elaborate.
Hair transplant techniques we deal/talk about at hairsite are a bit advanced.
We take out individual hair follicle units and then plant them in the new location. Thats called FUE.
Please dont confuse it with strip excision from back of head or the plug transplants where they scoop out skin alongwith the hair roots.(thats primitive).
But what I was asking is advise about a way of extracting the hair roots one by one and if possible by the minimum damage to the stem cells.
What I mean is, it is not necessary to thermocoagulate the hair root to take a substantial amount of it out of the skin.
If for example we were to keep the electrolysis needle superficial- till the deep epidermal layers only.
Will it loosen the hair root sufficiently for it to come out accompanied with significant quantity of stem cells.
You people must be doing a lot of electrolysis work on a daily basis.
In your experience what is the way.
(I am not saying IF there is a way).
Regards and looking forward to some advise.

When not enough treatment energy is used in electrolysis, the hair will come out of the follicle, and the inner root sheath system will turn inside out. These MAY be useable for your purpose, but I can’t say for sure, as they are still partially treated. Many electrolysis clients are familiar with these, as they look similar to socks pulled inside out sticking out of the skin. They won’t usually shave of, but they will come loose if a warm wash cloth is rubbed on them.

Perhaps the cells you need are contained in this partially treated, and loose group of cells.

I have a deal for you Doc…

You pay Fino or James to remove all the hairs on me I don’t want, and you can have them all for research… deal? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

David

Thanks James,
Will try out the idea.
Is it possible to loosen the hair root by just probing with the needle rather than using any electric current.
That way the stem cells will not be coagulated.
Also could you tell me whether the UNRELIABLE hair removal methods like use of salicylic acid to rub off the epidermis partly likely to help.
And what about using laser resurfacing to shave off the epidermis and then the hair roots can be picked out comparatively easily.
(On the lighter side if some such method works, there will probably have to be a large scale collaboration between ht surgeons and electrologists shifting hair from one location in body to another).
Regards,
Dr.Arvind Poswal
www.besthairtransplant.com

What do you think is less likely to damage the hair roots.
A quick pass at high energy or a longer pass with low energy on the electrolysis needle.
I am sure you all must have discussed this many times and the professional electrologists will have lots of info about this.I am sorry if this is a repitition.
I am asking so I know which option is considered more effective. We hair restoration doctors will then be better off using the method which is considered less likely to damage the hair roots.

Regards,
Dr.A
www.besthairtransplant.com

Hi,
Looking fwd to some replies to my queries.
I know the professional electrologists will be very busy but will appreciate a little help here.
Regards,
Dr.Arvind Poswal
www.besthairtransplant.com
poswalarvind@yahoo.co.in

I will do my best to put you in touch with some research scientists who study these things. Perhaps they can better help you.

What I know is that although you might be able to remove the hair in many ways, there is no way to remove it with the germative cells that is not more tedious than electrolysis.

Although you might have a better chance of using a low treatment energy to loosen a hair, I don’t know that you could get the germative cells to release along with the hair shaft without some sort of process that scoups them out manually, or slicing a cross section of skin and manually removing the full hair follicle from base to surface.

Once I get permission to forward email addresses from a researcher or two, I will email you contact info and you all can take it from there.