Permanent scars impossible with 100% galvanic?

Hair Removal Methods Professional Electrolysis
#1

Is permanent scarring possible with 100% galvanic? Or is it only possible when there is at least SOME AC/High Frequency/diathermy/thermolysis current in there?

I was told by an electrologist (NOT Alana! This was a different electrologist) that due to the way the skin heals after being hit with a HIGH amount of a zap of blend (the type that allows you to have a 99% clearance of hair after only three clearances), there is no permanent scarring, but when you are using such high levels of energy with flash thermolysis, it can lead to long term scarring (I can’t remember if she said PERMANENT scarring or just scarring that is there for many months).

“Scarring is a direct result of over - treatment of the skin using Thermolysis. Â
This is because heat must reach a certain level during Electrolysis treatment, making pitting and scarring a major concern if administered improperly.
At Beverly Hills Hair Free, our treatment does NOT include the use of HF (Thermolysis) or any type of heat application to the skin.
Therefore, there is no scarring.”

“Something else: i wear scars from blend in my face. And that were signals with a large galvanic component and only a small RF component which lead to destruction patterns that were too wide for my skin.”

Beate’s comment doesn’t nullify Alana’s, because Alana is referring to ZERO percent HF current, and the blend uses a percentage of HF that is above zero.

(And yes, I know about “pebbling” that is caused by current that is too LOW. I am talking about scarring that is caused by current that is too HIGH).

Maybe I should read this, particularly the posts around Beate’s and Beate herself’s comment, though I don’t have time for that right now: http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/116942/Searchpage/1/Main/16464/Words/galvanic/Search/true/Re:_hyper_pigmentation_and_tig.html#Post116942

#2

I’m going to bump this because I have the same question. In theory, how can one scar with 100% galvanic?

I can understand how thermolysis might scar. RF energy heats the surrounding tissue, and too much heating from overtreatment can cause what is essentially a localized burn. Additionally, I can imagine that improper insertions, where the probe doesn’t go cleanly into the follicle but instead punctures the surrounding tissue, can overheat the skin.

I also have read about high-frequency blowout, where heating gas (whether it be vaporized water, or gaseous byproducts from galvanic lye production) can cause it to rapidly expand and damage the skin.

But what about straight galvanic? We set up a (small?) voltage differential, and create NaOH and HCl from H2O and NaCl. NaOH is obviously caustic – I have a pretty serious burn scar on my arm from a lab accident involving aqueous NaOH – but the amount produced should be small and limited by (voltage x time), right?

I’ve had the pleasure of being worked on by Susan Laird with straight galvanic, and the results were flawless. I’ve also been worked on by others using straight galvanic, and my skin was beat afterwards. The jury is out on whether the damage is permanent; I guess I’ll have to give it time. Regardless, my experience has been that there are differences in technique, although I don’t know what they are. How does a bad galvanic operator differ from a good operator? A mediocre operator?

Finally, if galvanic can scar, what do the scars tend to look like?

#3

Bumping this again. I simply asked Susan Laird what the result of galvanic overtreatment would be.

“scar tissue and bleaching of the skin”

question answered

#4

Here is your answer in a nutshell. Electrolysis is highly operator dependent. It is the electrologists skill (not the machine or modality) that makes the difference between a good treatment and a bad one. Anytime the skin is disrupted or injured a scar can result, electrolysis (all modalities) or otherwise. Although rare, the primary reason for electrolysis scarring is over-treatment. Many times, what looks like a new scar will heal up and become unnoticeable given sufficient time. On your question - “How can one scar with 100% galvanic?” Answer - overtreatment. (I have several old hypo-pigmentation scars on the nape of my neck from galvanic overtreatment)

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#5

Would you mind posting an image of the scars on your neck? I’d like to compare them to what I’m dealing with.