Patchy? Unatural? worried?

Ok, as some of you know I want to have elctrolysis done on a few parts of my body, for a reduction. these parts being my legs, stomach, and chest, and maybe my arms. ifound out that the hairs growing on, for example, the legs of an average human being are only 20%, so only 20% of the the hairs there are growing, and thus those being the only hairs that can be treated. my question/s are basically what could those parts look like? i`m asking more for first clearance photos, please, and from people who have had similar or different experiences, how did it look? did it look natural or unatural, and lastly i only want about 20 - 30% reduction, can I acheive this? or would my first clearance remove more? please and thank you.

None of my customers have requested a reduction of 20%, they always want 100% in the first clearance. Unfortunately, it is impossible to obtain, due to the small number of hairs are absent (shedding phase).

This is one leg of a boy of 20 years. The area you see to the left of the image, received a hour of Electrolysis a little less than a year ago. The right area was never treated.

All hairs were present on the skin were treated. Some were in a growth phase and not others. The Electrolysis killed all because it is effective at any stage of the cycle. I remain hopeful that one day someone will believe me.

The best way to achieve your goal is that your electrologist select one of three hairs. Otherwise, nobody can guarantee to you the reduction you want. The Electrolysis is irreversible.

what exactly do you mean by select one of three hairs?

Hi Jossie … well, I BELIEVE YOU!! Actually, I don’t just believe you; I know objectively that telogen-phase hair follicles are easily dispatched by electrolysis. If you are getting 80% reduction in one “clearance,” there is no other explanation.

Consider that your “column of destruction” (or up-down technique with your IB probe) will find the target area whether it’s in active growing stage, or dormant. If it’s in dormant stage, all the elements are still there and you should be able to eliminate the entire follicle.

Metaphor: Let’s say you want to eliminate, say, Qadaffi in Libya. (Or maybe some other horrible “humanoid.”) You decide to send a smart bomb to his house to eliminate that nasty “follicle.” Does it matter if he’s awake, or sleeping, for your bomb to work? Does it matter which room he’s in — if you take-out the whole house?

I know where the “anagen only” idea came from, but it’s a fairly long explanation. Basically, it has to do with the “tug-out” resistance that telogen hairs offer, and how unsatisfying it is to see no root on the epilated telogen hair. Yes, indeed “telogens” are not easily tweezed-out because they are firmly attached to the upper skin.

For the layperson: ever notice that telogen hairs are more painful to tweeze? That’s because they are attached right at the point where the greatest number of nerve endings are located (just under the epidermis). If you have having your legs waxed continuously, you know that the first “tear out” really hurts — that’s because there are lots of telogen hairs. However, if you are consistent with the waxing, it hurts very little because now you are dealing with easily-removed early anagen hairs only.

However, Jossie, the anagen-only myth is NOT going to stop — ever! Grit your teeth and just get used to it. It’s all part of the “no-crusts ever, breaking-down process, anagen-only, no redness after 30-minutes, distorted follicle” conspiracy. Maybe the CIA is behind this whole thing? KGB? Dectro? Hinkel?

Note: when I first started working in Holland, a person would fail their electrolysis test if they epilated a telogen hair! The people giving the test (the STIVAS) thought that a telogen hair was a hair with a “broken off root!” And, therefore, the student had made a mistake. I was invited to a STIVAS exam and experienced this silliness. Can you imagine the “storm” I created when I announced that the examiner was totally wrong! It is truly amazing how we have progressed over the years. Have we?

BTW, Lasers cannot destroy telogenic follicles! So, “stick THAT in your fluence!" ELECTROLOGY RULES!

I dare you to say those words to Moammar Gadhafi in that tone of voice! He has a laser in his tent, you know. By the way, I’ve seen 1,000 different spellings of is name. What is the correct spelling anyway?

Good point about telogen hairs and laser, MB.

Dee … ha ha ha! (Actually, I was going to say “So, stick that in your joules,” but thought the imagery might be too much.)

I’m a native New Yorker and the “east coast” just pops out now and then! I need to get back to my “California mellow!” My apology to those I’ve offended (sort of).

Dee, Muhamar Al-Gadafi or one of the Egyptian mummies. :wink:

This reminds me of a story I heard from an “expert” Spanish teacher. He put an example of why the treatment of telogen follicles was not successful. He said: "If you shoot a mummy, you will not get to kill it. This is dead, anyway.

I think this man mistook a hair with a follicle.
The sad part is that I paid a fortune to listen to this nonsense. :cry:

Edwin, the hairs on your leg are grouped in threes. If your electrologist only kills one of three (preferably the hair located in the center of the group), the other two remain alive and you get a 30% reduction.

I tried to explain the telogen way of life to an electrolysis here from Josefa’s explanations and Michael’s book. I don’t think I explained it very well, because she didn’t really wholly grasp the concept (there were smatterings of “I can see how it’s possible; there is a growth at the bottom”). It was like trying to sell an elixir that I know works, but which is considered too good to be true for it to be believed.

Electrologists here never mention that hairs are grouped in threes, sadly.

oh, i am very confused, can someone explain the grouping and ect,… sorry, lol

I have pointed out in yellow some of these groups. I hope you can understand better. Remove one of the three hairs provide a natural and homogeneous look.