particularly stubborn stomach hairs

Hi! Okay so i’m new to this board, but a long time lurker. Anyway, i graduated from OneTouch University and moved on to a Gentronics MC160. It is a very robust machine with a lot of great functionalities. My problem is not with the machine - far from it, i’ve been doing DIY altogether for about three years off and on and lately decided to reduce the amount of hair on my legs and arms, to give myself a cleaner look. I am currently going to a professional electrologist for chest hair and to clean up my beard area.

Onto the question: The left side of my stomach had its initial clearance in under 8 hours by me, and is currently being maintained for stray hairs that have popped up here and there. The right side of my stomach is another story, I have begun to clear it but i’m finding that these hairs are more stubborn. The kill rate is laughable, somewhere in the neighborhood of 1/25, and yes i am using thermolysis but i know this rate is unacceptable. Thermolysis intensity does not play a part as the hairs are impartial to it. And yeah, i know what you’re thinking it’s the right side of the stomach shouldn’t he be using his left hand (non-native) well yes, but i also am clearing the right side of my leg and the kill rate is somewhere at 40% and quite possibly higher. I know for a fact that it is not the insertion, i actually had my electrologist try one or two and she experienced the same thing, so please get that off your mind =).

So, just wondering if anyone else has experienced this. I know this board supports the DIY community that is why i am reaching out.

Just a few other notes, i am using a ballet F5 shank but will be moving to a TC shank once they arrive. Intensity is set between 3.0 and 3.5, it really depends on how frustrated i get. and yes i am reading the following books Electrolysis, Thermolysis and the Blend, Principles and practice of electrical application and Modern Electrology. Oh and blend has the same effect as thermolysis.

Also the hairs pop out with a hard white thing on the bottom, it’s not the sheath.

Annnnnd nevermind, it sorted itself out. Maybe its because the stomach is a very ‘bouncy’ area and i wasn’t holding the skin right, or maybe it was a bad day. Never the less the hairs are coming out like i expect now.

If you are doing work on yourself, how are you seeing anything well enough to insert a size 5F into your own belly?

I don’t know the vision and lighting set up that would make that easy.

Because the full clearances that I do happen in a matter of days or at worst 6 weeks, my clients have a stable and natural reduction. Have you seen the pictures TempleJ posted? He got a very natural looking reduction from his first and second clearances, which occurred more than 6 months apart.

Thanks for the reply James! As to how i am treating myself - think winnie the pooh eating honey out of a jar. The F5 shanks fit actually quite easily into the follicle, my stomach hair is very deep terminal hair where using this size is appropriate. Bausch and lomb visors with a magnification of 2.2 and a range of 8-12" inches aid in the removal.

Necessity breeds innovation.

And nope i will definitely take a look at the pictures TempleJ posted.

Thanks!

I did my own stomach and could do it with my scope, probably a circle lamp has a small enough working distance it could work too. The hair up toward the bottom of the rib cage is still too far up and there isn’t enough working distance.

Unfortunately, one is stuck with only a single angle to work with. That makes it challenging at times.

It sounds like the hairs on the right side are all in telogen. Sometimes you will work on a spot where most are all in one phase. Wait a few weeks to let new hair come in and try again.