But the insulation will resist the lye?
Beate
Oh yes. I’ve had no problems with the insulation resistance of the needle Laurier. I can not say the same for another two-piece insulated needle with which I made a comparative test on the arm. It was hard work for 20 minutes because the needle had lost its insulation. I did photo of this second probe, when I finished the test. The picture quality is bad, but the brightness of the steel where it should be opaque by isolation, proves my point.
My problem with the Blend has been different. You know I make a move up and down when I work the Blend to cover the entire bottom area of the follicle. My problem is adjusting to a new concept, the maintenance of fixed needle in the target area since I worked in telogen follicles. This is probably not related to the type of needle, but with my work habits.
Laurier probe was subjected to another test. This time it was in the left leg of a woman.
A little history here: More than 95% of the hairs on the legs of this woman were eliminated in the winter of 2009 and spring 2010. After almost a year, she returned for a final clearance and achieve 100% elimination. All sessions were done with a needle without insulation and Multiplex.
Always, always, always had scabs. And as everyone can see, the skin is in perfect condition. I would ensure that the skin is now better than before receiving Electrolysis (and thus its unpleasant temporary side effects such as scabs). But I can not prove it, because unfortunately, I have no picture “before”.
That said, I describe what they show the following images:
The right leg was made a week before taking the picture with a needle without insulation.
The left leg was made 24 hours before taking the picture.
Perhaps this helps to prove that crust development is not synonymous with permanent scars. And it would be good to be ascertained that the Electrolysis can be improved if there are people working for it.
I am not of those who let themselves be captivated by a pretty package, what really matters is the value of things inside. I’ve said when I talked about the Bono book covers and I say now with the container needle Laurier.
I will not resign anything that allows me to construct a better future for the Electrolysis.
12 days later. area tested with Laurier probe
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First comparative test between two insulated needles.
First area: Probe Laurier (2 pieces). 3 days later
Second area: Another insulated probe(2 pieces). 5 days later
The two areas were made with the same machine (Platinum), the same method (Multiplex), the same parameters, the same treatment time (20 minutes).
13 days later…
This is “just great!”
So, I got my supply of Laurier needles yesterday from Texas Electrolysis Supply — all excited to try them out. AND, they don’t fit my needle holder. I have seven needle holders (yes, I’m OCD), and the needle would break the pin vise if I tried to jam it in.
I wonder if anybody ever thought about standardizing needle shank sizes? Anyway, this sure was an “interesting ride” with the Laurier dude! Mike, I know you are smiling!
I’ve noticed that the pin vise will sometimes need adjusting. They seem to be made of a soft metal that is easily pried apart or squeezed together…
I’m sorry for your misfortune Michael. We have produced the same size stem since the 1960’s. We did not set the standard, we adopted the industry standard of the time.
I would do what Barbara says with the pin vise. I didn’t have any problem with inserting the probes, but I have had to adjust the pin vise once or twice in the past on a deformed probe.
I’m sure you can find a solution to solve this minor setback. I had to adapt the probe in the needle holder from my old machine Sorisa. It was not hard, I opened a little metal part of the slide with the help of a screwdriver. Needle holder now supports both types of shank “F” and “K”.
Any effort to minimize side effects of Electrolysis in the face of your beautiful client, it will be worth, Michael.
Comparative test between two insulated needles.
Left area (proximal): 20 days after with needle Laurier.
Right area (distal): 13 days later with another brand.
In the 3ª pictures I have highlighted in red hairs appeared in the area due to false regrowth. For non-professionals: concepts used to define hairs that come from untreated follicles.
I would like to know your opinion Michael B. Do you agree that this is false regrowth?
Jossie, you know more than I do at this point and that’s for sure. But, yes, that is what it looks like (and you know that you kidder you!).
BTW — I failed at trying to pry-out my needle holder and broke one new one in so doing. Besides, 2-piece needles have never been my preference. I’m deciding if it’s worth spending another $75 to get a needle holder that will work for the Laurier and Pro-Tec insulated. Looks like you all did a great job testing the probes — with no real surprises.
Does anybody need more than our “resident scientist” Jossie? I don’t think so. You GO girl!
I had planned some sort of big-deal endorsement with those needles; but seriously, my heart’s not in it any more.
Oh no Michael, I am not the resident “scientific” on Hairtell.
I’m just a resident electrologist on Hairtell.
Unfortunately, I am an electrologist with little opportunity to test a “new” product.
For me to be part of this group was very important.
A group of independent professionals from different parts of the world unite to work together and assess the quality of a needle specially designed to facilitate the work of insertion, cause less pain and minimize the reaction on the skin surface. Nothing less!
Do you remember my rejection for the insulated needle?
You have returned to give me a lesson:
“Beliefs are beliefs, I want that you experience the scientific method.”
Well, thanks to you I have re-discovered the usefulness of the insulated needle.
So once again, thank you Michael Bono.
New test for today:
Eyebrows and upper lip in the same woman. Probe size: 003 short.
If nothing prevents me, tomorrow I’ll post the photos of the area 24 hours later.
Really nice and tasteful shape - not all of the experienced collegues have this feeling.
Beate
“…not all of the experienced collegues have this feeling.”
Beate, excuse me, I do not quite understand what you mean.
Before
24 hours later. Picoflash and Probe Laurier (003 short)
24 hours later on upper lip.
A few minutes later.
Josefa, I think he meant that you do beautiful work. The shape of the eyebrow is very lovely. 
Not everyone is capable of such nice work.
MaryC
Oh thanks MaryC for the clarification, now I understand.
Beate is one of our most valued electrologists here. She always has a very professional approach, so her words are very valuable to me.
I always take the measures before working on the eyebrows. In this case I opted for a pattern of delicate features, such as Michael recommends in his book (pag. 35)
Today, before session
After. finished first clearance.
Please let me suggest using a knife with a thin blade - this permits fine and careful work. Much safer - using a screw driver increases the risk of breaking the needle holder.
Former owners of a model railroad should know (in the age around 10 i had to readjust many many small plugs this way…)
Beate
Mhmm, i am still nothing more than a somewhat ambitious newcomer who meanwhile might have reached an acceptably average level.
But my reply was more that of the daughter of a painter.
Beate
As it is formally permissible to clean and re-sterilize electrolysis probes here in germany for further use, i am evaluating this issue.
One of my probes (a size 6) has been used over meanwhile 12 hours (wow…). Modes have been pulsed blend with large galvanic current and pulsed thermolysis, acutally the same pulsed blend mode with galvanic set to 0. Everything at 13.5 MHz. During the last treatment i noticed that the needle was blank. Nevertheless it worked well, maybe somewhat less concentrated toward the tip but still more than a non-insulated ballet or sterex. The efficiency was still better which could be utilized for either lower reaction or larger working speed.
So to a large degree the magic of the Laurier probe is the bulbous tip. Not surprising: the insulation will, like any other, suppress capacitive or inductive coupling only relatively weak but mainly block galvanic currents.
Beate