So James…were YOUR 7’s in that assortment or do we need to keep looking ?
Each and every one of the 4 prototypes of 7´s are absolutely valid. The Size .007" (060) is made to terminal hairs on man´s abdomen. In the chest, however, I would use a smaller tip as the skin here is much thinner (050/055) is appropriate.
I find it odd that the .065" tip has generally not been favored for the 7. The .060" tip on the .007" seems best so far for the “standard” tip. We have decided on .050" for the “Kelly” tip but the .060" tip may be adjusted in time. At this point I have the .007" Long available in those two exposed tip lengths.
I’ve had quite a few requests and have added the .006" Long with an extended “Long tip” which is .065"
I have to wonder why the .065" long tip works very well for a 6 yet is not a preferred length on the 7 ? ( I think we found the edge of the box…)
I really liked the 7/.065, Mike. I used a 7/.050 on a woman’s underarms today and really struggled. She thought it was ouchy.
I really liked the .065 tip on the .007 also. Woo Hoo
But here is my dilemma Gretchen. Folks like James,Dee, Josefa and of course Kelly up in Chicago, visualize the treatment zone so well at this point that they can find the proper target for any IBP I make. I can hand them any diameter with any tip and all I have to do is give them the measurements for them to produce perfect results ( This is why we also make custom Probes ) I need to offer stock sizes that will perform the best for the most people in most situations the most often. For each individual size in the array, we zeroed in on exactly what length worked the best in the most situations. The Kelly 3 for instance…the tip is 22 thousandths of an inch. At 20 they produced a “sting” and at 25 they were too long and still reached the nerves and sebacous glands for a shallow insertion, defeating the purpose. The .002 we were able to take down to 20 thousandths, 18 became “stingy” (IIRC Dee coined that term) 2 thousandths of an inch is the thickness of the thinnest, finest tissue paper but that much makes all the difference in the world to you and your patient.
The new 7’s stretch a loose follicle well but the 6 will get in more places and the “Long tip” 6 has the .065" exposure. That is extreme…you’re treating a very large area with those.
I’d rather have a .065 on a .007 than a .006, but I am not to picky and I can be happy with what I have. Oh wait a minute, I am happy with what I have.
I also wanted to say that since I have been getting used to all the regular sized probes I have been experimenting a little more with the Kelly’s and I am finding that they are a fun probe to use.
I apologize for being AWOL on this discussion, but I am BURIED under work and family demands.
I did want to say that I had the need for the 007’s as I got a scandinavian client who has the typical long, deep follicles, with the small girth. A very challenging thing indeed.
While I found the 4.5 to seem to fit the dimensions, it was very hard to use, as the working treatment energy was compromising the probe and it was very hard to avoid the bacon sizzle. Stepping up to a 6 got us closer, but I was still having trouble with the energy that removed the hair, being too reactive in pico and even sychro. The 007’s made it much easier to get a working energy without the sizzle and expelling of hot protein debris.
A point of note, the Laurier 7’s actually dropped into the follicles better than the Ballet Gold 6 on this client. The ballet 6 was obviously too large at the tip to go in without forcing it, but the taper of the 007’s made it a smooth insertion with no dimpling.
Now I need to see if playing with the width will make any good differences. I better hurry up though, I am running out of hair to experiment on. 
You were right in the first place James. I should have listened a year ago. Your 7’s are now in stock sir 
Why thank you kind sir.
The industry is better for having such tools available, even if only a few currently have the vision equipment to make use of a 7. We can dream that number rises soon.
James the .007 is a fun probe to use. What do you mean when you say the vision equipment to make use of a .007?
The better your magnification and light source, the more accurate your insertions can be, and thus you can put a larger probe in even smaller follicles than before. I drop 5,6&7’s in places many others never venture beyond a size 3.
I thought that’s what you meant but I was not sure. I recently upgraded my lighting and about six months ago purchased some design for vision magnification. Fortunately I am new to the trade and learning from all you guys I have pushed the bigger LBP before I became to entrenched in old school probe sizes.
Many colleagues would be surprised at how smoothly it glides one of these probes. However great the size of the probe is, fits perfectly in most follicles. The advantage of using a large size is that the temperature inside the follicle remain moderate. It’s like a chicken leg cook over low heat, just that you employ tenths of a second to have it ready.
It does fit easily into most follicles but I have had some were the probe went in with some resistance. Switching to a smaller probe after experiencing the resistance with the .007 is very dreamy, slides right in.
I should say that the .007" “Long” IBP is in stock now with exposed tip lengths of .050" and .060"
We have also made the .006" Long with an exposed tip length of .065" and they are in stock also.
Magnifcent video Josefa, you never cease to amaze me
Okay. Here’s what happened to me.
I was eating my dinner, Filipino Adobo Pepper Steak with Oka and Carrots, and I started watching Jossie’s double 0 seven YouTube video and the next thing I knew, I woke up, dog licking my face, me grasping my fork and a Jalapeño pepper was on my left cheek.
Jossie! You are amazing! You caused me to faint and hit the floor. I think those probes should be called Jossie Bond .007’s or maybe Jossie James Bond .007’s, since James Walker the 7th suggested you make those big probes back in 1868.
Superb genius video!
Thank you, Mike. It’s good to have the 3 tip lengths available for the work of these large and deep follicles.
Here’s a sequence of photos of the last case made with 007 (060) tip.
BEFORE:
3 days after:
7 weeks after:
Left side. Before
7 weeks after:
Very nice work again Jossie. As tempting as it is though, might want to kill the james bond references. We dont want RIAA coming in after a piece of the laurier probe pie…That video is probably enough to give some copyright lawyers itchy fingers.
Seana