Part II: Laurier

I was testing the .003 tip Kelly Short, and work wonderfully well:

    • The blade has the perfect total length.
    • The taper is perfect because the constriction NO takes too long when it comes to the exposed tip.
    • The length of the exposed tip is suitable for medium vellus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpz6JKEtKaI&feature=youtu.be

Again, you have done a magnificent job, Mike Roy.

The delicate skin around your eyes deserves something special, and that’s the tip Kelly.

BEFORE:

3 WEEKS LATER:

Immediately after the session:

Permanent hair removal does not mean risking skin. Quite the contrary, we are able to improve it.

Seriously Josefa, that is good work. You are quicker than a trigger on an outlaws gun. If there were no Laurier probes in this world, especially the new Kelly tip probes, I may quit targeting hair follicles and get more serious about my new target:

Just call me DeeDee Deadeye. 9mm ammo, 25 feet away.

And here I was thinking Kelly was the new sheriff in town… :slight_smile:

Have you had a chance to work with the Kelly 3’s yet Dee ? I’m hearing the .020" exposed tip may be a little too short for general use. We may go to .022" or .023". For a given field of hair, I want to see you displace some, but not often. If you displace often, we are too short. If you never have to displace, we are too long. This will produce irritation for no reason or benefit.

No, I haven’t used the Kelly 3’s yet. I need to order a batch this week. I thought the Kelly tip lengths were settled at .020. Should I wait to purchase the .022 or .023’s?

One shot would have given in full medulla hair, another shot would have entered the inner sheath, the third would have destroyed the outer root sheath of hair, and the fourth reach bulge area. Not bad dear. I’m glad we do not live in the era of dueling, or I would have no chance to live if I had to face you. :wink:
The advantage of using the Laurier is that the gun barrel would bend before crossing the skin (in small target)

Oh, that’s why I like shooting! Hair! Reminds me of the inner workings of a hair fiber. I was “this close” to shooting a 45 magnum, but the kick was too much and I have people depending on me to remove hair. Not worth knocking my shoulder out and shooting holes in the ceiling.

Dee, your example of the impact of the shooting on a target too big, is the perfect example to illustrate what a probe too small would with a hair too thick.
To this target, we need a missile as the 006. If you remember back to my son? I used a .006 and depending on how things are going, it seems that I target in most of them.

BEFORE:

24 HOURS LATER:

2 WEEKS LATER:

Using a large probe involves no greater risk for skin. Rather, it is a more balanced distribution of heat.

I TOTALLY AGREE! Always use the biggest probe possible. It helps with client sensation issues as well (most of the time).

We did settle on a final tip length for the 2’s at .020". The 3’s I sent you for testing are made at .020" like the 2’s. This is the opinion I need Dee, do you think those tips on the 3’s are correct for the shallow crowd ? Concensus so far is .020" may be a bit short for the .003" diameter Probe. The big question is do you find yourself displacing very often with them for vellus and telogen. If so, we’ll lengthen them to .023 or .024"

I never received the 3’s Mike! How long ago was that?

OOPS! Missed communication…They will be leaving very shortly :blush:

Hello everyone! I’ve asked some of you in PM, but now wanted to post here. Speaking about insulated probes, currently, only pro-tec by Dectro has two different lengths of “bare” tip for each diameter. And currently, pro-tec IBL has the longest “bare” tip of all insulated probes.

http://www.aestheticssystems.com/183.blog

Dectro advise two pulses with displacement working with ITH probe for anagen hairs: one pulse at papilla, another at bulge (no displacement for telogen)
And no displacement while working on anagen hairs with IBL probe.
Since 2/3 of the follicle should be eliminated, IBL bare” tip seems to be ideal working on anagen recently shaved hairs. And ITH tip for working on unshaved mostly telogen hairs.

As far as I understand, Laurier IBP standard “bare” tip length is somewhat similar to ITH probe “bare” tip length. So, logically, it covers only about 1/3 of the follicle length in anagen, which maybe is not enough to kill stem cells in bulge as well.
I would be really happy to hear your opinion about it. What do you think about pro-tec two different lengths of “bare” tips? (I do not compare quality of the probes here, just their “bare” tips)
Personally, I think that two different “bare” tips (which is enough to cover about 1/2 or 2/3 of the follicle) for each diameter is a great idea because one can grab a probe with longer exposed tip while working on shaved growing anagen hairs, and use shorter exposed tip while working on unshaved mostly telogen hairs.

P.S. As Michael Bono just pointed out, it is really important to eliminate bulge and stem cells in it.


So, in my opinion IBL probe “bare” tip seems ideal while working on shaved anagen hairs because it eliminated all stem cells along the follicle length, but protect the upper 1/3 of the follicle.

In darker color: first pulse
In lighter color: second pulse

This is an illustration included in “The Blend Method” New edition, by Michael Bono. I hope you do not mind Michael.

I chose this picture because it illustrates very well how does the Thermolysis (HF) when applied with a insulated probe.
Even when you do not move the probe, a second pulse cover a larger radius. The pattern of heat rise to the top if you repeat pulse, so, sometimes a single pulse will not be enough to disable the hair from the walls, but two will do the job.

Josefa, thank you very much for posting a picture. Though, how can we be sure that a second pulse covers a larger radius when the probe is insulated? (I think that the photo you posted represent uninsulated probe pattern) Doesn’t insulation restrict current exactly under insulation?

how can we be sure that a second pulse covers a larger radius when the probe is insulated?

Because with a single pulse the hair does not come out easily, thus anchoring the area was not affected, the bulge is located precisely there. Instead, with a second or third pulse, the hair can be removed gently.

(I think that the photo you posted represent uninsulated probe pattern)

Yes, the needle of the photo, is a non-insulated needle, but also serves to show how heat rises to the surface. I think Michael wanted to show here how the point effect affects the follicle. This phenomenon, the point effect is more pronounced if the probe is insulated.

Which researcher showed conductivity using all types of probes, even in the insulated area? Was it Schuster?

Thank you, again, Josefa, for your patience and explanations!

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