The new “Kelly Tips” will be leaving tomorrow Arlene. Like I told Skip, take a Spectrum, put one of these in it’s mouth and every vellus hair in Denmark will tremble in fear :o
I will be very interested in your opinions ladies, this is how we develop and improve.
Any comments on the Kelly tips so far ladies ?
Or are the vellus hairs hiding ? :o
Why “Kelly tips?” (I don’t know who Kelly is, by the way, so nothing personal here).
HOWEVER … these needles should be called “JOSSIE tips” … after all, that girl “put Laurier on the map!”
Just saying …
Actually Harold Mahler put Laurier on the map 42 years ago. 
My face is telling the story that Josefa did an excellent job refining settings and technique for the treatment of vellus hairs… given that I had somewhere between 10-13 hours of face and neck treatment, the bulk over 2 days, with a little more work on days 3, 4 and 5… and barely any scabbing to show for it. I returning to work after the weekend, with no one any the wiser.
Photos are on page 8 of my sister’s electrolysis diary which is linked in my signature.
Oh my YES … The Mahler “boys” were a class act. As good as it gets, and Skip is continuing the tradition.
Remember his saying: “Dahhhhhring” to the women?
Sudonna was another family owned electrolysis manufacturer. Does anyone know what happened to them? I remember sitting next to the
owner at a convention in the 1980’s … the stories he told were hysterical!
Sudonna actually bought quite a bit of our product until he folded.
Kelly Morrissy-Stump is a great electrologist and a fantastic girl. Her recommendations have been a great help in developing the latest prototype of Laurier. As Dee, Arlene, and James did with the Heavy 4,5. In my opinion each of them deserves the same honor.
I do not know what funny stories can tell a manufacturer, but I know some stories less fun. After being some time in contact with this peculiar world of electrology, I can say that mostly wars were caused by the manufacturers themselves. "My machine, needle, or method is better than my competitor´s one.
Regarding to “put Laurier on the map”, not, at all. You, my dear friend Michael Bono, putting it on MY map. I have transmit (with much effort, my time, and the generosity of my clients) its benefits to other peers.
Really, I do not need a needle which remind me my name. I know it very well, and just in case one day I suffer from Alzheimer’s, I have a secret treasure that reminds me what my job was and who was endorsed by.
Maybe you remember it Michael. It is a PDF document titled: “The new Future of Electrolysis”
Oh yes, I do remember and bless the day I “met” you … sorry folks, but we two have this “mutual” thing going on … he he he
Firstly I’d like to apologist for the lateness of this post given the time and effort Josefa put in to arranging and performing this test.
I would say that interest in the Laurier probes has renewed interest in insulated probes in general. As the electrologists here surely know, they are not the only manufacturers of such probes.
Josefa had some Pro-Tec probes at her disposal and suggested comparing the use and results of one to a Laurier probe.
For this test, we selected an area of my sister’s front thigh where the hair was as even in density and size as possible. My sister’s thigh hair had been left untouched for a year.
We labelled one side as ‘P’ and one as ‘L’ for Pro-Tec IsoGard F3 ITH and Laurier .004" Medium respectively.
Josefa started with the Laurier probe. I hope she will add to this thread with her personal remarks on using the two probes. As an observer, I noted that it she was required to reduce the intensity when using the Pro-Tec probe and she found it a lot more difficult to use which resulted in that side taking more than twice the time to clear of hairs.
Before treatment:
I will update with ‘after’ photo after some more time has elapsed.
Since different probes require different settings,
we would have to find the ideal setting for each probe
and then compare the tissue reaction.
For the situation you depict, a #4 makes more sense. it would be
interesting to see the test done as apples to apples comparing
a #4 brand A to a #4 brand B making sure that the diameter of
each is the same at the point of insertion.
I enjoy reading your posts.
Dear Arlene,
the Pro-Tec sizing does not exactly correspond to the sizes used by Laurier, Sterex, Ballet and AFAIK Velona. So the Pro-Tec #3 is probably closer to the “Standard” #4 than it is to the “Standard” #3 - despite of the generally lower rigidity of the Pro-Tec probes.
Hi Mike.
I used the Kelly tips for three hours today. The client said the .018 and the .020 were not stingy at all. I gave the probe tips about equal time. I used Synchro thermolysis Chin Program level 1, with a range between 71 el’s and 100el’s. Honestly, I could perceive no difference between the two. Same skin reaction - no blanching, sensation good, feel of insertions were excellent, probe control okay. I love the Kelly Tips for the reasons I listed above. I’m ready to purchase whatever size you settle on, even though they are more delicate to deal with. I asked my client to text me in three or four days to describe how she healed, so that is the only unknown to me at this time.
Before picture:
Before picture of vellus hair. I worked on the area for several minutes before I thought to take a picture, that’s why the area looks a little puffy:
After one hour of treatment with Laurier #2 .018 IBP
VELLUS HAIR CLUMPED TOGETHER ON MY FORCEPS:
I worked on her underarms also. Cleared both side in a little under two hours using a Laurier IBP 4.5 long. Excellent probe for this area in all ways mentioned above…
Synchro thermolysis = devastation for these tough underarm hairs. This client had 10 laser treatments with an alexandrite laser, and she estimates, a 70% reduction. She still had a fair amount of hair and some of the hair structures were funky, and many were very fine. The camera doesn’t pick up the finer hairs very well.
Before underarm was cleared:
After underarm cleared:
Laurier Insulated Bulbous Probe #6 used on this clients tough beard hair. Synchro thermolysis used, Chin program level 3. Both areas cleared in 72 minutes. Insertions accomplished: 696
Before Right side clearance:
After Right side cleared:
Before picture of Left side:
After picture Left side, with hair structures lined up:
Laurier IBP #6 probe is being used on this client.
Synchro thermolysis / Back Program / on Apilus Platinum epilator
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WOW, WOW, WOW, Dee, What I can say? you are doing a MAGNIFICENT job. This is the Electrolysis in the XXI century.
How it will be done the “heavy 4.5” finally?. I liked a lot the first prototype 4.5 Medium. Really I caught blazing speeds with this probe. Even, I broke the record that had been achieved with a needle in one piece. 6 hairs more per minute.
I have one word to describe that experience: frustration.
My learning curve on these probes seems to be quite steep. First experience: a massively swollen eyebrow when i used an F1 ITH instead of a Ballet #2 Gold. Most recent experience: massive and unacceptable hematome in a chin - just a few hairs were to be treated, and i am not aware of any mistake except that i used an F4 IBL. Besides of that some really good results with the F3 ITH.
So on large and critical jobs i will use the Laurier IBP whenever possible, but i still need a 2 piece probe with the quality of the Ballet 1 piece.