Thank you very much for the video.
Do you really can feel the bottom of the follicle?
Oh yes he would like to talk lol. Sorry been very busy with work. First of all can I say what an amazing woman Josefa is and what a privilege it has been to be able to have had nearly one full clearance…from sitting in the UK thinking waxing would be the only alternative to being treated by one of the best in the world. She made me comfortable and then I experienced this Ferrari like speed and minimilastic pain. I could not believe how low we were on power and the ease of releases. One pulse was sufficient and on sensitive areas it made it all the most bearable. Two pulses occassionally. Lol…I had to ask Josefa to tap once only because as habit sometimes she hit the pedal twice. Onto the reaction. Of course with the amount of hair removed I developed scabs. Tiny pin point ones… which have been falling off all this week. A little redness on the skin but nothing out the ordinary. Actually it’s amazing because as with photo depilation side effects have been kept relatively minimum and I can imagine in a couple of weeks the faint redness will have subsided and i can start back at gym. I will post some pictures very soon I guess when I have time and maybe in its own thread with Josefa s approval. I like how my shoulder is on YouTube. Lol. The probe. It lasted the whole session as far as I am aware… we used the 4,5 Laurier I think…same for feet Josefa? Power was at around 136 el multiplex. Obviously different clients would suit different parameters. We tried Pico too which was delightful but Josefa works faster in multiplex. Ok I also had face treated…not much the area below lip and in and around the goeatee area. Just to tidy up of course. Bearable pain…did use anesthetic of course them areas no pain. Thanks Lola 
I was worried about the reaction…however some swelling two days and redness four days…we used synchro…exact parameters unsure maybe Josefa can share. Can’t wait to be able to make this trip again in hope can almost be finished…the only thing that pains me is there is not enough or any electrolgist who can work to even half the standard of Josefa…of course time dedication and experience are a factor however I feel for the people who excessive hair really affects…I think that electrologists should meet up and train others with no competitiveness and general desire to teach and other to learn. Electrologists should be open to working in telogen…the results speak for themselves surely. This way maybe we can get rid of this laser crap once and for all. Anyway…till I post some pictures amigos. 
any questions feel free. I know I’m posting in the laurier thread but it is laurier related
Nice work as always, Josefa. Mike I received the probes. Thank you again. I will answer your important question by the end of next week.
I used a 5 long on a man’s back four days ago.
Time: 1.5 hours
Modality: PicoFlash Back Program
Outcome: mostly one insertion, very little stickiness, client comfortable
Then I switched to a 4.5 short just for curiousity.
Time: 1 hour
Modality: PicoFlash Back Program
Outcome: to my surprise, this short tip worked very well - very little stickiness
Probe just the right stiffness for easy, smooth insertions, had to use
displacement
Then I switched to a 4.5 Long
Time: 15 minutes
Modality: PicoFlash/ Back Program
Outcome: too much stickiness, one shot worked well . I need to try this probe again, as I think I could have adjusted the timing better to make it work.
Then I switched to a Heavy 5
Time: 1 hour ++++
Modality: PicoFlash Back Program
Outcome: worked great
I saved the probes and will take pictures of the tips in macrophage. If they turn out, I will post them.
I have a lot of back work coming next week and will continue testing with the probes you just sent. I am going to do some egg white zapping as well. This is so much fun!
All and all, as I said to you before, whatever probe I use, I can make it work. My clients are so much more comfortable because the levels have to come down 20-30 % . The skin reaction is very good.
One last thing, I used a Heavy 5 on a three hour bikini case. Again, easy peasy work with a great probe and a great modern epilator, the Apilus Platinum set in auto sensor. I can’t be happier.
Today i switched to an IBP in midst of a treatment - and sticked size 5 on really thick, often ingrown hairs of strongly varying depth, all anagen. The size was a compromise because i needed to be able to treat some finer hairs as well - otherwise i would have used the 6. As the setting was already pretty low (Synchro, 0.2s, 182 EL) i did not change it.
Two effects:
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i needed fewer pulses to treat the hair. Less energy is needed to release the hair - nothing new. Something would have been wrong if not.
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in direct comparison the client felt less pain of each single pulse. I find that remarkable.
In the meantime i had just one short treatment where a 4.5 was suitable. I cannot tell more except it felt great.
With respect to the treatment and the patient, you should see little difference in the 4.5 Beate. Where you should see the difference is in how it feels in your hand. The basic premise of the design is to mimic the “feel” of a one piece needle while providing the reduction of irritation and patient discomfort the IBP produces by needing so much less power.
Well, it was not quite as stiff as a one piece, and i liked that feeling - although i am neither faster nor slower with Your two piece probes than with the one piece.
I’d like to express a blanket “you’re welcome” to all the thank you notes I’ve been recieving from the web page mail coming from clients reading here. Electrologists are sometimes reluctant to try a product they’ve never heard of, much less one that is so crucial to the results they seek. It should be obvious to the readers the benefits the IBP provides as reported by the pro’s here that have been introduced to it. We now sell retail as little as one dozen to electrologists and clients alike and now also accept credit cards. The free sample offer still stands, ask and ye shall recieve.
It amazes me how clients discuss and demand certain laser types and settings, yet do not question what kind of needle or probe is inserted into their bodies. I’ll grant you equipment choices and settings the electrologist uses are way over the average layman’s head, but they all come down to what happens at the tip of that Probe. I submit that the choice of Probe used is pivotal to those results, and just as important as the choice of machine.
I invite clients and practioners alike to feel free to contact me through the web page with any questions. I will personally answer any and all questions that I am qualified to respond to. I will not, however, feed you a vague sales pitch or claims in place of a correct answer. That would not serve anyone well.
My clients do love your probes, Mike. Last night, I worked on a man’s back for 199 minutes (3.3 hours) and 3,580 insertions were accomplished. I was working very fast in Picoflash mode on the Back Program, using the auto-sensor set at 0.4 delay. I started off with the .005 medium and used it for 90 minutes. Mostly needed one insertion. The hairs slide out with no traction. Some hairs were more resistant, so I did have to insert twice in some instances. The probe just dropped effortlessly into the follicle using a light touch. The last part of the appointment, I used the .0045 medium and I had to decrease the energy levels a little bit to avoid stickiness. Even so, I did have to clean the probe more than once, but you have already told me that comes with the territory, so I deal with it okay.
If I had to choose which probe I liked best, it would be the bigger probe. Compared to the longs, I would have to choose the mediums. I will keep evaluating, but I like to write things down so I don’t forget the specifics. Again, your Dad had the right recipe, so don’t go changing too much!
Dee, I think this illustrates well why my father always instructed to use the largest probe feasable for the particular job. This also demonstrates the isolation by the way it “turned up the heat” on you by reducing the diameter by .0005" thus reducing the overall area of the exposed tip.
This is what led me to the conclusion that a 4.5 with a longer tip was unneeded. The fact that you had to re-insert a few times means that your choice of tip was correct. If you never had to do that at all, it would mean we’re reaching too much area and causing unnecsessary irritation. We’re all about minimums to reduce patient discomfort.
Hi Mike. I just wanted to let you know that the redheads with deep coarse beards are the most challenging and their skin tends to be sensitive from birth. I used your IBP #6M in multiplex with 2 pulses. Even with that heavy red beard, working with the high density, contiguously, the skin looks fabulous. The hairs slide out beautifully with no sticky buildup. I love your #6M IBP!
We’re taking the 4.5 concept down to the .002’s. Today I made the prototypes for what I think will become the 2.5. It is a .0025" “extra short” ( 1/8" ) made on a .005" medium length blank. They will have an exposed tip length of .025" ( about 30% shorter than a standard .002.
They are a very firm feeling .002 intended for very shallow insertions such as vellus hair or fingers and toes. They should be ready for testing later this week.
Mike, FYI, I worked 4.5 hours today on a woman’s bikini line and pilonidal area, using a heavy 4 and a heavy 5, designed for back work. I do like the sturdiness of the probe in this area, too. Nice releases, but for most, I had to use displacement. This does not disappoint me at all that I had to use displacement as I think it is probably the only strategy for these hair structures if you want to cook them well and keep the client moderately comfortable. Stickiness was not a big problem today, but I did have just a little bit of stickiness.
If a one shot deal is possible for these lengthy root sheaths, that would be great, but I am okay with using the strategy of displacement. Lovely probes, Mike.
I resemble Arlene’s remark and agree wholeheartedly. The IBP made my electrolysis experience faster and more comfortable.
This is like the domino effect, Caith, we have all fallen in love with this probe.
I think that the #6 IBP might be interesting for users to explore in place of the 4.5’s.
Indeed. But sometimes having the stiffness of the '6 with the tip of a '4 at hand might be interesting.
It’s important not to let the 4.5 lead you into using too small a tip. It is made from .006" wire tapered down to .0045". It feels heavy to your hand like a 6, but still needs to be used only where you would normally choose to use a 4.
One must always use the largest tip feasable for the task at hand, as illustrated by Dee’s post above.
Hi Mike - to expand on my above comment:
Since the 4.5 IBP is new, I wanted to use it on many areas and explore its potential. I prefer this probe for backs but find that for bikini and men’s beards, using a thicker probe with a thicker tip is more suitable for my situations and can eliminate the stickiness that others too might be experiencing.
Thank you for your dedication to our profession.
I agree with your preferences Arlene.
Mike, the prototype 2.5, meets the objectives. The reduction of around 30% allows the treatment of very fine hairs with follicles that are at the limit of the dermis to the epidermis. In the photo you can see the gaps between the tiny lesions, indicating that interfollicular spaces were not affected.
3 days after treatment:
Good job!
