Part II: Laurier

Hair Removal Methods Professional Electrolysis
#41

I stayed in my safety zone for a while, but eventually got braver and I’m glad I did.

Oh, yes, I have used Synchro using a gold probe many times, but I make sure that the probe is moving downwards as soon as I hear the beep. I don’t like to insert deep and then pull upwards when using gold as it is too risky for the epidermis. I do like both insulated and gold, but I never advise others to use gold because the folks at Dectro would never give this advice and they should not, because it can be riskier if you don’t know what you are doing. James only uses gold with Synchro, so he may have some thoughts on this.

The problem with Synchro for me has been, people seem to finish faster and I lose my new best friends sooner. Synchro offers a lot of power for those veryy coarse gray hairs especially that we frequently see on middle-aged women’s faces. My goodness they just slide out so effortlessly with a glistening intact root, same as if I were doing blend, but this is by far faster than blend. I’m very conservative with my settings and constantly observing the skin. If you go above a certain level, clients don’t like Synchro, I have found.

Are you using Synchro, Arlene?

Need to grab a someones leg and use the Laurier probe with Synchro, which are on their way! Thanks Mike!

#42

Hi Jossie!

Is there a YouTube video of this by chance. We are not allowed to do skin tags in the State of Ohio. No spider veins. No hemangiomas, like the one displayed near the skin tag in your picture. Very frustrating.

#43

Dee, I do not know, but you just give me the idea. I put one and I’ll send you the link.

I have started with the treatment of spider veins just a month ago and a half when I received the book of Michael. It’s really easy, as he says. It’s amazing the next day there is no crust on the skin. I would put photos of before and after. Most of my female clients have a neck and chest full of small spider veins due to abuse of sun exposure. I like to remove small hemangiomas as well as remove the hairs, as they both disappear, but the client can appreciate before. Fortunately, hemangiomas can not be removed with tweezers by customers rebels, contrary to our recommendations. :wink:

I know you’d like to see, but unless Andrea’s consent, it must be in a private mail. I’ll send you the photos.

Establishing responsibility for removing skin tags, hemangiomas and spider veins is not well clear in my country (as I have understood). However I have the good fortune to work under the supervision of my doctor (my adorable Lola)

#44

I loved Laurier with Blend but am wondering about its advantages in thermolysis when the tip is bulbous. Bulbous tips are best with DC as more sodium hydroxide is produced. The thinner tip is where more electrocoagulation takes place. What did I miss?

Yes, I use Synchro but so far, only with insulated protec.
I would very much like to explore Synchro with gold.
So far, in Synchro, I have not gone auto.
What do you think?

I would totally attend a seminar offered by James even if no CEU’s are approved. I would love this. I read that Barbara indicated that the new AEA regime loves James but am wondering why he hasn’t been approved for giving a CEU seminar. I think I need to see proof that he is loved otherwise, its just bla bla bla without the back-up action.

I might go to the Symposium in Quebec but am wondering if the formal educators will be a bit conservative.

#45

We refer to the Probe as Bulbous because the insulation is in behind it, to maintain the smooth profile for insertion. The tip is conical in shape, somewhat like the end of a football.

#46

Thanks for explaining that in football terms, Mike. Last year I opened 17 boxes of insulated probes, so I definitely lean toward insulated.

Arlene, I only use auto sensor mode. You may not feel comfortable, so do what works for your comfort level. I just add more time to my delay if it is someone really challenging. I don’t talk to my client during a treatment. I explain to my client that I want to focus and go so they don’t think I have zero personality and they think that is great because they want to get as much hair removed once that timer starts clicking away.

The Quebec Symposium sounds tempting. James and the AEA? All I got to say is James is loaded with knowledge and the AEA is about education. Seems like a symbiotic relation to me that could benefit many. What will it take?

#47

“I loved Laurier with Blend but am wondering about its advantages in thermolysis when the tip is bulbous. Bulbous tips are best with DC as more sodium hydroxide is produced. The thinner tip is where more electrocoagulation takes place. What did I miss?”

The Laurier response was, " We refer to the Probe as Bulbous because the insulation is in behind it, to maintain the smooth profile for insertion. The tip is conical in shape, somewhat like the end of a football."

Laurier, would you expand your response to further explain the architecture of the probe and its advantages in thermolysis as I would like to understand why it would be better in thermolysis than a tapered or straight probe? I have worked with your probes in blend and think that is probably the best construction but at this time, I want more understanding of its advantages in thermolysis.

My issue is not about the actual insertions, it is about the activity surrounding the probe as a result of probe construction. Theory and practice is my concern.

Thank you so much.

#48

The major difference is the ability to cotrol the radiaton of the RF until it reaches the tip. In thermolysis the burst of energy is all RF, in blend RF is only one of the components, direct current the other. No matter what the mixture being delivered is, our goal is to deliver all of it to the intended target, not radiate the RF component before it gets there.
This can be demonstrated by the egg white test mentioned on our web page.
The probe was developed for thermolysis before blend was adopted by the industry. Blocking the RF’s unintended escape from the shaft of the probe was a major hurdle to overcome.

#49

Hi Dee,

Today, I’ve been testing with the Synchro system in my Platinum and honestly do not understand why it is especially recommended for thick hair. I have used in fine hairs and without insulated needle and everything went very well. I have not noticed more reaction on the skin surface. It is truly amazing the power of this machine. Honestly, it never ceases to amaze me.

Now I only see that with the probes Laurier, I can lower the intensity to get the same result. I’m impatient too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az-IKl7ncqY

SYNCHRO:
.15 s
68% 462 e.l

#50

Are you using a footswitch, Jossie? Thanks for the video. I wish the kind folks at Dectro would do that as well.

I do Synchro a little bit slower. I insert either deep or just below the epidermis and once I hear the beep, I push down or pull back in one smooth stroke, depending on on what I choose for the situation at hand, always keeping the probe moving. I mainly use insulated, but have used gold with no problem at all. I would never advise someone to use a non-insulated probe because the folks at Dectro insist on insulated probes. There is probably more energy coming off the sides on a non-insulated probe, I would assume.

Certainly, I have done fine hairs with Synchro, but I just bring down the el’s naturally. I am very conservative with my levels when using Synchro on the face. The norm is, scabbing or oozing is not a problem; people heal in a week or so, even less time for the most part. What area were you working on in the video to be using 462 e.l.'s? Did the client need numbing cream prior to this?

I just think it is a real power punch to tough hair, big or little.

Ready to try Laurier probes! They arrived yesterday. Thanks Mike.

#51

Yes Dee, I continue using always the footswitch, you know, like Michael, I’m not very much in favor of giving the control to autopilot. :wink:

Yes, these parameters are very high for the face, but I was working on the back of the arm. Telogen hairs with very low humidity, I needed the energy to go faster. My client is accustomed to the speed of Multiplex, so as the test was performed at the hour of her time, I could not go slower than usual. Yes, anesthetic cream was applied, but the pain threshold of this girl is very high.

By the way, this should be another pre-idea, if it has not been mentioned already.

Is it less painful treatment with needles Laurier?

#52

You are so cute! I love the term autopilot. I feel very comfortable and in control when I use the autopilot sensor. I look at it as one less step that I have to think about and it is less fatiguing for those long appointments not to be pressing a footswitch for every hair, which today would have been almost 4,000 insertions worth. I just set the delay to where I want it and off I go into the wild, blue yonder! I’m glad we have the opportunity to hear about each others preferences. Thanks much Jossie.

#53

Dee, every day I am still learning something new.
This time it was discovered the Synchro in my machine. Tomorrow, probably, I can confirm the usefulness of the automatic sensor.

I’m glad to be part of this team, and I am glad that, today as yesterday, I still do not “know the truth”.

I have learned a lesson the past week, I should not trust the pilot controlling the interior of what is between my two ears (if there is something inside, of course).

Thanks much Dee.

#54

I wish there was a video showing the destruction on the lower parts of the follicle when Synchro is used. This modality must be the best of what blend, thermolysis and the S.I.M.P.L.E. method can offer, especially for thick, deep anagen hair. At least that’s what I imagine it to be. Nice technology.

#55

Found some volunteers to check out the Laurier probes.

#56

We need to trust that the things will happen of certain way: we suppose that we understand to whom he us speaks, that us tells the truth and that for something does it. But if we question the information, we can deny the presumptions true or of value.

To learn of the mistake it is necessary to avoid the trap of the past that applies recipes to different contexts and the trap of the present that is abided by the facts losing of sight the values.

The best advice that someone has given me in all my life: [size:14pt]do not be afraid to committing mistakes.
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The real mistake is to forget about building the future.

(I miss so much to this person…)

#57

I already I have my first volunteer. He is my “boy” of “Diary of a European guy”

The next Monday I hope to receive the shipment. I want to see the reaction on his skin, I have hundreds of photos to compare.

The follicle must be removed anyway, but I want to check if the scabs appear and if it has the same diameter.

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#58

Scabs ? I think not.

#59

Use the force Jossie.
You don’t lose control. You create a synergy between you and the machine. You also learn what the rhythm of your insertion is, and have feedback for when that insertion speed increases.

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You are so cute! I love the term autopilot. I feel very comfortable and in control when I use the autopilot sensor. I look at it as one less step that I have to think about and it is less fatiguing for those long appointments not to be pressing a footswitch for every hair, which today would have been almost 4,000 insertions worth. I just set the delay to where I want it and off I go into the wild, blue yonder! I’m glad we have the opportunity to hear about each others preferences. Thanks much Jossie.[/quote]

#60

Thanks for the advice James. I’ll have in mind.

My right foot is starting to show signs of fatigue, specially when the working day lasts almost 12 hours. Fortunately, my week lasts a couple of days less than yours. I hate to think how to work Saturdays and Sundays also, as you do.

Laurier, If scabs do not appear I am going to shout “Eureka!”