Posting photos like these are wonderful. If you are considering electrolysis, please keep in mind that there will be some normal tissue reactions like swelling, redness and sometimes some pinpoint scabbing that occur from treatment.
The 4.5 IBP holds up really well for long sessions - thick hair.
I find that the head glides into the follicle so smoothly that I can
even use them for smaller follicle openings which require a
#3. This has the advantage of even less surface tissue reaction.
Thank you boy1989, in my business I strive to please the electrologist. In truth, it is stories like yours that are the reason for our work and the very existence of Laurier Instruments Corporation in the first place. As I tell Josefa though, the violin did not play itself 
You ladies are finding purposes for the 4.5 I honestly did not expect and I would like to ask you two questions.
The exposed tip length follows my father’s design parameters. The tip diameter is halfway between a .004 and a .005. The exposed tip length is also halfway between a 5 and a 5. In use, do you find yourself wishing the exposed tip length be slightly shorter, or slightly longer ? Also, do you feel that they should be produced in both the medium and long lengths ?
For the deep man hairs and some deep bikini hairs, slightly longer tips would be good. I think medium length would suffice. Can we order these probes from Prestige or Texas Elec. In the near future?
I will be offering them to the distributors and they cater to customer demand,so I should expect so Dee.
Thanks.
I think Arlene may have said this, but I wanted to note as well, that the heavy fives were fine, but they didn’t insert as easily. I noticed a slight resistance as I guided it toward the bottom of the follicle. I adjusted well. The hair slide out nicely, so it was not a complete failure of function.
I used this probe for the first time today and really liked it. It felt so much more sturdy.Like Arlene I tried it on smaller follicles aswell and felt it the head glided very smoothly.I reall like the way it felt.
I know your intention when making these probes was for deep hair like mens back hair, but i could not help but feel that they felt so good when working on smaller follicles the only thing that worried me was the length of exposed tip when working on a smaller follicles. If you were to make some with shorter exposed tip for smaller follicles that require a more superficial insertion and some with larger exposed tip larger follicles, 4.5 would be the probe I would use for almost all cases.
From the feedback I’m getting, we are going to go to another generation. I’ve settled on the .0045" tip diameter. Since having the two lengths does not seem to be a big issue, we’re going to split the difference again and go halfway between medium and long. In the world of the Laurier tapered Probe the long is rigid and the medium is unbelievably rigid, so we’ll split the difference.
Where we are going make a change is to split into two different exposed tip lengths like Sahar suggests. I need opinions in the next couple days if I can get them from you, I’m working on them now.
With respect to the 4.5 design you now have:
Short tip- Would you consider the tip length on a standard .004" short enough for those uses ?
Long tip- Would you consider the tip length on a standard .005" long enough for those purposes ?
I know I am late to this party, but I have been just too busy lately. I wanted to weigh in and say that I too, found a desire for a little less exposure. Many hairs, especially telogens were only as deep as the insulation when working some areas. The extra exposed portion did cause a bit of a “cutting problem” on a client I have whose follicles are plentiful with big fat banana shaped root structures.
Do you think a 4 tip would have done it ? There’s .010" difference between that and a 5
I am not sure if that would have done the trick or not. I used the probe on some coily stray hairs under the chin (not what these were designed for, I know) and it just so happened that the way the follicles bent the probe, it ended up being a tension that caused the cutting action on some of the follicles. This is where a stiff one piece would have likely been the better choice, as it would have tended to force the follicle straight, or just stopped at the bend. I just did not want to change probes for so few extra hairs at the end of the session.
Actually, the client was happy, and only I noticed what happened while looking under the stereo microscope at 40 times magnification.
Maybe i show some results obtained with the Laurier?
The whole treatment has been done within 2 1/4 hours on a nice young lady using my Platinum Pure in Syncro Mode and a Laurier size 3 (which is actually the size i use least).
The shot has been taken immediately after treatment. The right leg had about 1 1/4 hours time for soothing.
The hair has had the chance to grow over 9 months and hence the hairs were mostly telogen. I showed the attempt of a full clearance including early anagen hairs as well as the tiny telogen stubbles visible everywere in the gaps between the long beasts. Only those (relatively) few ingrown early anagen hairs which i could not immediately free have been left over in order to maintain speed.
We have been around 300 EL at 0.2 secs in synchro, sometimes slightly more, but often a bit less in order to keep the probe clean. The nice thing of the Lauriers is that it tells You if the settings become too large. It gets dirty and prevents fast work…
We try to work upward from the feet in order to enable my client to wear Capri pants ASAP before it is getting hot.
During treatment i tried to speed up things a bit - but in multiplex , even more in syncro at 0.1 secs, i needed larger settings - so we always came back to our preferred value.
My client did not need any numbing; she was actually almost falling asleep during treatment (brave!).
Of course the probe is still in excellent fashion (except that i bent it…); i think of cleaning it for use in an egg test.
Lovely work. I can affirm everything you said about Synchro thermolysis and the Laurier probe, Beate.
If other electrologists only knew how wonderful it is to work in this mode with an excellent probe and have the client be able to have hours of treatment with a very tolerable degree of sensation. Yes, stickiness on the probe is a signal to change the recipe for intensity and timing. I ran into stickiness tonight when working on a bikini line, and inward. Lowering the energy level proved helpful. Skin condition was awesome. 4.3 hours was accomplished.
Excellent work, Beate, accomplished with excellent tools.
Impressive work, Beate.
According to my estimates, the time required for the second clearance within several weeks in the same area is 35 minutes. Can you confirm when the time comes? thank you.
Indeed, well done Beate. Methinks the good doctor might like the new 4.5’s
I can verify what Beate said because those are my legs and (as a DIYer) this was also supposed to be my job. Unfortunately my machine broke and I just don’t have the heart to start all over again at this time, so I turned to Beate who’s always been very supportive.
(Personally I used to think the stories of “falling asleep on the table” were slightly exaggerated, because I was treated with a Platinum before and I found it extraordinarily painful. Apparently they were true after all.)
Josefa’s estimate sounds correct, because Beate did a test patch under similar conditions about 7 weeks ago and I don’t have much hair there yet.
In the past 40 years, reports of patients falling asleep have become quite common to us 
What I love even more about the Laurier probe is how the skin looked just a few weeks later, compared to treatment with a Ballet gold probe.
Thanks.
Yes, indeed. It would have been ideal for today’s client - male genital and surrounding, currently treated with a size 4 Laurier.
BTW: a while ago, i bought a few of the unisolated probes (size 5, long) and use them preferrably for deeply rooted hair with a tendency to grow in, e.g. in the bikini zone or some facial hairs in skin damagaged by plucking. It is the only probe which allows me to reach the bottom of these follicles, and it inserts and epilates nearly as good as the isolated one. Side effects seem to be typical of other high quality plain probes, but the efficiency of the treatment increased drastically when i started to use them. In other words: i like these as well.
Beate
BTW: as to te violin: a good musical instrument may be a big motivation for practising until one can utilize is…
The reason is that we are the only 2-piece on the market that is tapered along it’s length. On deep insertions like that Dr. Schuster’s teardrop pattern develops to the extent that it is effective, but but with irritation at the surface limited. An untapered needle cannot do that as well. The finish on the surface of the needle is also a factor.
I have the next generation of 4.5’s almost finished, I will send you some to evaluate.
Let’s talk about regrowth, or more accurately, false regrowth. Notadelphin, You will have greater false regrowth on the outside of your legs. This has an explanation: this zone is subject to more friction from clothing, especially if you use thick cloth trousers such as jeans. Friction caused while walking produces a polished on the hairs, making some stay closer to the skin, too short to be treated at any time during the winter. When spring arrives (perhaps the summer there) lighter clothing will make the hair grow freely, this is why you see a little more regrowth. This is false regrowth.
PD:Beate, I hope that now you do not have doubts about your high rate of effectiveness, I never had. 